Enigma: Rising Tide (gold edition)

ASWnut101 · 10-28-06, 12:00 PM

Hey, I'm just wondering if any of you other guys have Enigma: RT.

I've got a question on why, no matter what, you cannon hide from a destroyer. It always finds you. even if you are at 1kt or 9kt, engines off or on, it will always find a way to kill you.

Also about AI depth charges: Why do they ALWAYS guess your depth correctly? They havent missed once yet.

EAST · 10-28-06, 12:53 PM

depending on the mission, the destroyers may have been set with you as detected. If you start on the surface and they are within about 4000m they will detect you.

You can avoid them and lose them. Remember that when they drop charges you have a period of time after they go off to go flank, change depth and direction. 15 seconds after the last charge goes off, you better be engines off or at least ahead slow.

When they are closing in on you (and know your position) go at flank. They see you anyways so just go like hell. When they are within 1000k meters, cut your engines and go hard to port (or starboard). As soon as the charges roll, go flank, dive and turn the opposite direction (unless of course they are passing you on that side). Detection is based on depth, distance and sound.

Hope that helps.

http://www.deepsix-online.com/phpbb

Bonfleck · 11-05-06, 04:49 PM

Enigma, imho is the most ridiculous submarine game ever

. I'd rather go to a goodwill store and find a commodore 64 and a copy of silent service than waste a minute on enigma.

Wülfe · 11-06-06, 12:31 AM

Was thinking about buying E:RT, but my buddy let me try his copy that he got off of ebay... and imho i think he deserves a refund for the wasted bandwith & shipping. we got more enjoyment out of our old nes.

EAST · 11-06-06, 10:15 AM

lol.

I love posts like these; insightful, intelligent, well thought out and informative.

Perhaps as defenders of good gaming taste you could elaborate on what you didn't like about the game. You never know, you may say something worth paying attention to....it could happen.

Wülfe · 11-06-06, 01:39 PM

The most promising thing about the game was the voice interface, but with average graphics for the times, and AI that from the looks of it was frankensteined togeather not to mention that it cheats most of the time. Yeah I bet your wondering how i figured out what the ai was doing w/o cheating myself, ez: an external memory reader. When i saw them go to full attack mode when the motor at minimum power for only a second, I knew something was fishy. My guess was confermed when it pummeld my exact location & depth within a few minutes. No historical accuracy there. but if you like trying to beat games that cheat then by all means I say play it. If ya'll prefer more realistic stuff, i say find something else. Personally "Aces of the Deep", back in the day was a true challenge for me. They might have fixed a few things in patches, but i cant say since I've been having fun on WoW, and not worrying over a program that has AI issues. It kinda fell flat on its face with the multiplayer rumor i heard flying around. Maybe if they gave the development a few more years, and released it on the Wii they might have had better luck.

Deamon · 11-06-06, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wülfe

an external memory reader.

Hey which one are you using ?

Snow White Sorrow · 02-15-10, 11:22 PM

Command simulation focusing on immersion and decision-making over technical realism? Now why do I think this will be a worthy purchase? (if I can find one)

I note the comments on realism but refer to IL-2 Sturmovik (flight sim); it's not even 70% realistic in terms of flight modelling and historical aircraft performance but the sense of immersion from the unique 3D engine, that gave proper speed, depth and sense of flight, worked magic.

rascal101 · 07-07-07, 09:49 PM

If some one trys to give you rhis game, do not except it, it is crap

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonfleck

Enigma, imho is the most ridiculous submarine game ever

. I'd rather go to a goodwill store and find a commodore 64 and a copy of silent service than waste a minute on enigma.

rascal101 · 07-07-07, 09:53 PM

Actually that was a little unfair, the concept was great and ould have been interesting, but the developers never delivered or followed through, there were bugs that never got fixed etc etc

Where have we heard that before

Quote:

Originally Posted by rascal101

If some one trys to give you rhis game, do not except it, it is crap

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonfleck

Enigma, imho is the most ridiculous submarine game ever

. I'd rather go to a goodwill store and find a commodore 64 and a copy of silent service than waste a minute on enigma.

moose1am · 07-08-07, 09:03 AM

Well said. It's programming like this that makes the Maytag Repair man have to work overtime.

It's a game and not a very good one at that. It's in no way what I would call a sim.

There was more hype on this game that what was delivered in the copy that I purchased.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonfleck

Enigma, imho is the most ridiculous submarine game ever

. I'd rather go to a goodwill store and find a commodore 64 and a copy of silent service than waste a minute on enigma.

TwistedFemur · 07-08-07, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moose1am

Well said. It's programming like this that makes the Maytag Repair man have to work overtime.

It's a game and not a very good one at that. It's in no way what I would call a sim.

There was more hype on this game that what was delivered in the copy that I purchased.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonfleck

Enigma, imho is the most ridiculous submarine game ever

. I'd rather go to a goodwill store and find a commodore 64 and a copy of silent service than waste a minute on enigma.

Maytag belongs to whirlpool now and they moved the plant to mexico or asia OSSLT is't not in the U.S. anymore

EAST · 07-09-07, 12:58 PM

As always, nice to see the trolls out in force; rascal101, moose1am, twistedfemur...

Lets be clear, there are no serious bugs in Enigma, if you actually have information on one (on a legitimate version running from an original disk), you should send it in or post it. There are starforce issues, but no crash bugs, no lockups. If you keep your drivers up to date, turn your audio hardware acceleration to basic and turn your anti-virus off while playing, even starforce won't cause you trouble...ok, if you have a LITE-ON drive it wont work, but heh...buy cheap, get cheap.

We have a patch put together for North America that will patch all versions to no-cd check & no-starforce, we haven't finished all the legal wrangling to release it yet however. I can tell you we will be using a "ransom" model to release it when we do.

Just a thought for the knuckleheads out there, if you'd like to see Enigma be a better game, post some suggestions. After all, even the "hardcore sim players against Enigma" contribute.

Why? Because there is another Enigma coming. You'll read it first at SUBSIM. (And deepsix-online.com)

--East

07-09-07, 01:41 PM

I'm personally looking forward to whateve sequels may come, as the alternate history and varied gameplay just aren't matched by any other game.

GlobalExplorer · 07-12-07, 11:04 AM

Hasnt happened that much since I was here last time. Everyone who criticizes this game gets attacked by a mob.

10-28-06, 12:00 PM	#1
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Enigma: Rising Tide (gold edition) Hey, I'm just wondering if any of you other guys have Enigma: RT. I've got a question on why, no matter what, you cannon hide from a destroyer. It always finds you. even if you are at 1kt or 9kt, engines off or on, it will always find a way to kill you. Also about AI depth charges: Why do they ALWAYS guess your depth correctly? They havent missed once yet. __________________

11-06-06, 12:31 AM	#4
Wülfe Nub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Rt, dissapointed. Was thinking about buying E:RT, but my buddy let me try his copy that he got off of ebay... and imho i think he deserves a refund for the wasted bandwith & shipping. we got more enjoyment out of our old nes.

02-15-10, 11:22 PM	#8
Snow White Sorrow Sailor man Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 50 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Command simulation focusing on immersion and decision-making over technical realism? Now why do I think this will be a worthy purchase? (if I can find one) I note the comments on realism but refer to IL-2 Sturmovik (flight sim); it's not even 70% realistic in terms of flight modelling and historical aircraft performance but the sense of immersion from the unique 3D engine, that gave proper speed, depth and sense of flight, worked magic. __________________ "A spoken word is a fired torpedo"

07-09-07, 12:58 PM	#13
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	As always, nice to see the trolls out in force; rascal101, moose1am, twistedfemur... Lets be clear, there are no serious bugs in Enigma, if you actually have information on one (on a legitimate version running from an original disk), you should send it in or post it. There are starforce issues, but no crash bugs, no lockups. If you keep your drivers up to date, turn your audio hardware acceleration to basic and turn your anti-virus off while playing, even starforce won't cause you trouble...ok, if you have a LITE-ON drive it wont work, but heh...buy cheap, get cheap. We have a patch put together for North America that will patch all versions to no-cd check & no-starforce, we haven't finished all the legal wrangling to release it yet however. I can tell you we will be using a "ransom" model to release it when we do. Just a thought for the knuckleheads out there, if you'd like to see Enigma be a better game, post some suggestions. After all, even the "hardcore sim players against Enigma" contribute. Why? Because there is another Enigma coming. You'll read it first at SUBSIM. (And deepsix-online.com) --East __________________ ENIGMA R.I.P.

07-12-07, 11:04 AM	#15
GlobalExplorer Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,015 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Hasnt happened that much since I was here last time. Everyone who criticizes this game gets attacked by a mob. __________________

10-28-06, 12:53 PM	#2
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	depending on the mission, the destroyers may have been set with you as detected. If you start on the surface and they are within about 4000m they will detect you. You can avoid them and lose them. Remember that when they drop charges you have a period of time after they go off to go flank, change depth and direction. 15 seconds after the last charge goes off, you better be engines off or at least ahead slow. When they are closing in on you (and know your position) go at flank. They see you anyways so just go like hell. When they are within 1000k meters, cut your engines and go hard to port (or starboard). As soon as the charges roll, go flank, dive and turn the opposite direction (unless of course they are passing you on that side). Detection is based on depth, distance and sound. Hope that helps. http://www.deepsix-online.com/phpbb

11-05-06, 04:49 PM	#3
Bonfleck Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 113 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Enigma, imho is the most ridiculous submarine game ever . I'd rather go to a goodwill store and find a commodore 64 and a copy of silent service than waste a minute on enigma.

11-06-06, 10:15 AM	#5
EAST Sparky Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Eugene, OR. USA Posts: 153 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	lol. I love posts like these; insightful, intelligent, well thought out and informative. Perhaps as defenders of good gaming taste you could elaborate on what you didn't like about the game. You never know, you may say something worth paying attention to....it could happen.

11-06-06, 01:39 PM	#6
Wülfe Nub Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The most promising thing about the game was the voice interface, but with average graphics for the times, and AI that from the looks of it was frankensteined togeather not to mention that it cheats most of the time. Yeah I bet your wondering how i figured out what the ai was doing w/o cheating myself, ez: an external memory reader. When i saw them go to full attack mode when the motor at minimum power for only a second, I knew something was fishy. My guess was confermed when it pummeld my exact location & depth within a few minutes. No historical accuracy there. but if you like trying to beat games that cheat then by all means I say play it. If ya'll prefer more realistic stuff, i say find something else. Personally "Aces of the Deep", back in the day was a true challenge for me. They might have fixed a few things in patches, but i cant say since I've been having fun on WoW, and not worrying over a program that has AI issues. It kinda fell flat on its face with the multiplayer rumor i heard flying around. Maybe if they gave the development a few more years, and released it on the Wii they might have had better luck.

07-09-07, 01:41 PM	#14
Mechman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I'm personally looking forward to whateve sequels may come, as the alternate history and varied gameplay just aren't matched by any other game.

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