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If the diesel engines were running and mist went into the air intake, mist could likely cause the engine to misfire and perhaps stall.
Anything more, might fill an engine cylinder, bending or breaking a connecting rod or wrist pin, damaging the main bearings, perhaps throwing the rod through the side of the engine. It is possible that a hydrlocked diesel might endure more than a gasoline fueled engine because diesel engines are built to have a higher compression ratio, which means that the parts that water would break--would be stronger in a diesel than a gas engine. If the engine were off or idling, the water might only hydrolock the engine. Because water is almost uncompressible, it would need to be drained from the cylinder before the engine could even crank. I couldn't find the video, but one Vespa had lost a head-gasket, and was hydrolocked. When they pulled the plug, water sprayed from the cylinder on each stroke. Perhaps that was an additional reason why they put the cylinder valve on the u-boat diesels, to drain water from the engine. It's conceivable that, if you lost a connecting rod, and it didn't go through the block, and you repaired it, the water would have to be drained from the remaining cylinders. I think that in Das Boot, I saw a main bearing, they were working on. Also, if water got into the engine the oil would be foamy yellow sludge. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SqLpcffZHOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgLDRoMpmI Not now, but at some point, it would be cool that if the sub is damaged, it will fill with water, sort of like this, until the sailors float, under the remaining airspace, to get the full late-war U-Boat submariner experience. ![]() In game, I don't know what could be done to save a flooding sub. In the movies, there's always a valve that can be tightened. : ) I suppose that it's possible that bolts on flanges that had yielded to tension, could be replaced. An interesting game dynamic: deciding to abandon the U-boat, which has happened. Last edited by BrendaEM; 02-11-23 at 01:08 AM. |
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I was trying to find a chart of the percentage of diesel engine hydrolock survivability. I should think that some military somewhere has one.
Though, I did find an actual submarine diesel repair manual, showing the repair components well enough to model: https://maritime.org/doc/fleetsub/diesel/chap3.php Oddly, it appears that some diesels had an extra inspection port that a main-bearing cap and connecting rod could be swapped. As a thought experiment, it would seem that flooded engines offer some interesting game scenarios. None of this has to be modeled, but perhaps there could game-wise be... Levels of water intrusion:
Stall Repair:
Perhaps it might be possible to damage an engine and it still run, with a rapping sound. Last edited by BrendaEM; 02-14-23 at 11:38 PM. |
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![]() and that's why the air intake on a U-boat has an air gap between the intake manifold and the air induction. ![]() Now, let's see a video of what happens when the exhaust line is flooded with 20meters pressure water! .
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Also, great analysis of the whole water/diesel thing.
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(Thank you @Onkel Neal)
I did a little looking, and I found a video showing an original U-Boat U-505 piston, with text stating that, yes they did carry spares, and they could be swapped at sea. I haven't got a good look at a U-Boat engine, on it's own, but I've noticed that some diesels have a squarish access panel just above oil sump, which would be my guess as to how they got the piston and connecting rod out, as pulling a oil pan on any engine quite a feat. You can stop the video here and there to read the text. I am not sure of the size, but if I knew the piston diameter, the rest would be easy. Well, it could be resized later, as long as it's in scale. In the video the some rings appear missing. |
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Wow, that's big! And a mere 1,100 lbs!
"From top of the piston to the bottom of the connection rod that is one and one half [1 1/2] meters. " It looks like the piston on the photo above is about 10" in diameter. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/a-big-...9628502868161/ And there it is, though missing the (piston) rings: Notice that the big-end bolts are on the top. That is how they could take it apart without dropping the pan. Last edited by BrendaEM; 02-16-23 at 03:02 AM. |
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