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08-05-21, 03:49 PM | #7831 | |
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The Libertarians' will hate this, but we still have to be RESPONSIBLE. That means WEAR A MASK if you think you're at risk. WEAR A MASK if you think you could put other people at risk. Now, where did I put that funnel cake? |
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08-05-21, 03:57 PM | #7832 |
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I see myself as "libertarian", and libertarianism and responsibility are unavoidably friends. The political Right and the Grand Orange Party in the US may claim libertarianism and Ayn Rand as theirs, but fact remains that Rand looked down on the Republicans, mocked and ridiculed Reagan, and did not want to have much to do with them. Antivaccers are not necessarily libertarians. In fact I got the impression that most are not.
Libertarianism MEANS taking responsibility for yourself, not leaving it to the state, community, others.
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08-05-21, 04:02 PM | #7833 | |
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Intubation is tantamount to murder? What do you do if a patient is not able to breathe by himself, let him die? Or stuff his throat with Ivermectin? And while what Bossche says may be interesting there is no proof, on the contrary most experts have debunked his theories.
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08-05-21, 04:03 PM | #7834 |
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More of a rationalist, with a healthy streak of libertarianism.
Paper masks are ineffective against viral particulates, as a quick glimpse inside any level 4 virology lab (like Wuhan) will demonstrate. Baffling that people still wear them, despite the known harmful effects, even after the mandate is removed in some cases. Sad really. |
08-05-21, 04:19 PM | #7835 |
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It took the drug companies from around march to august of 2020 to create vaccines effective against covid. That is just six months to create, not one, but half a dozen or so different vaccines against what was supposed to be an unknown virus.
They've now known about the Delta and Lambda variants since December. Yet all we have to fight them are last years vaccines? Why? Why are there no vaccines targeted for those variants yet? They can produce a new version of the Influenza vaccine every year yet there is nothing in the news about continuing covid vaccine development.
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08-05-21, 04:26 PM | #7836 | |
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Because I will wait before I take the jab BUT!! I'm not in a desire to put other people life at risk or my own. I have so far NOT have had any symptoms on this Covid-19 virus. This doesn't mean that I had it or have it I act among others like I was infected. Markus
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08-05-21, 06:07 PM | #7837 | |
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08-05-21, 08:03 PM | #7838 | |
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Yep. He reaped what he sowed. Now we don't have to listen to him anymore. |
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08-06-21, 07:38 AM | #7839 | |
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Aggressive treatment with antivirals or ivermectin at the first signs has a far better outcome, based upon multiple clinical studies. Getting someone on ivermectin right away to deal with covid, assuming they have mild symptoms not requiring hospitalization or supplemental O2, should be the standard of care, same as getting someone on tamiflu within 48 hrs of symptoms when they test positive for the flu. Same as you'd give someone rabies vaccinations right away if they were bit by a known or suspected rabid animal. Same as you'd get someone started on cancer treatments right away rather than letting it progress to stage 4 before starting treatment. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/ https://files.covid19treatmentguidel...guidelines.pdf It's pretty clear that not all hospitals are using cheap drugs that initial trials show work early in the disease progression for mild cases, nor are they using the proscribed course of treatment to lessen the chances of progression for more serious cases. It's all "go home until you can't breathe, then come back to die here so we can collect them federal bucks..." Most people don't understand that the progression of disease if you are infected is dependent upon (amongst other factors like comorbidities and genetics) viral load which determines how quickly your immune system can "catch up" from an initial infection. Get a huge amount of virions and your immune system just can't keep up as the virus replicates. Smaller viral loads mean your immune system is closer in that foot race to allow it to catch up and then overwhelm the infected cells before disease progression starts to make it even harder for your bodies immune system to respond. |
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08-06-21, 08:33 AM | #7840 | |
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08-06-21, 10:14 AM | #7841 | |
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08-06-21, 11:39 AM | #7842 |
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Conditions known to affect the seriousness of illness for people who contract COVID are being a great big fat person and being a raging diabetic. I would expect those suffering from cystic fibrosis would also be at greater risk of serious illness or death, as would someone who had any other pulmonary or cardiac condition - sleep apnea and hypertension being two that come to mind.
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08-06-21, 12:47 PM | #7843 |
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Sixteen and 17-year-olds across the UK are now being invited to book their Covid vaccine.
GPs in England have been told they can contact this age group, while invites are also being sent out in Wales. In Northern Ireland, walk-in centres are now open to older teenagers, and in Scotland they can register their interest online. Meanwhile, new figures show most patients in hospital with Covid in England continue to be unvaccinated. The opening of vaccinations to 16 and 17-year-olds in England comes amid a drive to encourage young people to get jabbed. The vaccine's benefits will be promoted to partygoers in nightclubs, including Ministry of Sound and Heaven. A campaign will also be rolled out across social media channels including Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Snapchat and TikTok, as well as on radio stations Kiss, Capital, Heart, Sunrise, and TalkSport, urging young adults to get jabbed. Walk-in centres in England will accept people aged 16 and 17 from next week, but those in that age group are currently unable to book an appointment using the NHS website. In Northern Ireland people aged 16 and up have begun to get the vaccine. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58112765
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08-06-21, 02:42 PM | #7844 |
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Mark of the beast.
Someone wrote a comment I never seen before... He wrote that this vaccine was the mark of the beast. Reason should be that no one in some countries can't do anything if they doesn't got the vaccine, soon it will be world wide An interesting point of view I must say-No I do not believe it. Markus
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08-06-21, 03:24 PM | #7845 |
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for the ones here that got the shot i'm glad you got it,the ones like me that hadn't got the shot well glad we hadn't got the virus the ones that had the virus glad you survive here the thing i won't be dictated too by no one i will not have someone come to my door and tell me i got to get the jab if it get try someone going to the hospital i will not have someone tell me what i can or can not do i will not have a job that tells me i need the jab because that between me and my doctor which being a diabetic i see regular for blood work and all that crap and my doctor hasn't mention me getting the shot at first i held off getting the jab so older folks and others like health care and police and others like that could get the shot now it cause i'm being told everywhere i got to have the jab people talk about risk heck being born is risky everyday there is a risk sooner or later you going died nothing you can do about that now granted i would like to cash out with two 18 year old redheads and them girls being the major dream in bed then it can be said i went out with a smile on my face
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