mines in SH4

ctt244 · 06-24-09, 06:34 PM

Hi all ,
can any one yell why the mines in SH4 do not show in the missions ??

CT

Stealhead · 06-24-09, 06:48 PM

If you are talking about the mines that are waiting for you to set them off you wont find that info and in stock mines are very rare. If you are refering to where are the mines some subs can lay? Well dont bother looking you cant lay mines in any US Navy sub in SH4.

ctt244 · 06-24-09, 06:53 PM

what i ment was i can ont see the mines at all , as get to a mine field in a mission where i know mines are , i use the scope to see them but they are never there ?? and when i go outside the sub to see why still no mines ?

ct

Armistead · 06-24-09, 07:27 PM

As stated, your chances of running into a mine is highly unlikely. Trying to find one would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. There is a minefield in the Tsuyama Strait that if you look hard enough, you'll find them. If they put mines in the stock game, they are very rare to find.

You can find more mines with the supermods. I know TMO has several minefields. I just happened to be looking at my sub when I found this one, but it was too late. You can see the chain and the mine is rubbing near the front of the con tower.

I'm fairly certain mines in TMO are set where you will not hit them running on the surface, just periscope depth only, so you're fairly safe anyway.
Your not going to see mines floating on the top of the water.

Also with TMO there is a sonar mod that detects mines and subnets. Your chances of hitting a subnet is fairly good in many area's...

Still, you don't want to see a mine anyway...or hit one. If you just want to see mines, there are single missions full of them. This one blew, but I made it back to base.

runningdeer · 06-24-09, 08:14 PM

That's a really cool shot. I wondered once too, if you could see the minds. Had thought about going to a known mind field to see them.

Akula4745 · 06-24-09, 08:45 PM

Nice screenshot, Mr. A!

ctt244 · 06-25-09, 10:13 AM

Thanks all who sent in a reply ,AS said not many in the missions , Ill have to change that

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Made a test mission and all is ok with that , it is a single mission, but can i use it in the sub school?

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thanks again all.

Ct

Loud_Silence · 06-25-09, 11:46 AM

I once, and only once, found a mine within the campaign with the stock SH4 with U-Boat Missions (but playing as american). It was near taiwan.

Stealhead · 06-25-09, 12:27 PM

You will see them if you happen to be looking around your sub with free cam and a mine happens to be near by but I really would not bother looking with the express goal of finding one.Also it would not be very accurate to use this method to avoid mines.It will make a better picture to happen across one unplaned as Armistead did as he explained in another thread where he showed the conning tower about to embrace mine picture above.

I think it says in the TMO read me somewhere that the number of mines was increased from 1 mine per sq/km to 9 to 15 mines per sq/km of course you must be in a mined area to see the ratio.

runningdeer · 06-25-09, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

You will see them if you happen to be looking around your sub with free cam and a mine happens to be near by but I really would not bother looking with the express goal of finding one.Also it would not be very accurate to use this method to avoid mines.It will make a better picture to happen across one unplaned as Armistead did as he explained in another thread where he showed the conning tower about to embrace mine picture above.

I think it says in the TMO read me somewhere that the number of mines was increased from 1 mine per sq/km to 9 to 15 mines per sq/km of course you must be in a mined area to see the ratio.

Ok thanx. Yeah, just stumbling upon one would definately make it more exciting.

I remember the first time I ever seen a net...it freaked me out, I didn't know what the heck it was, totally unexpected, it was very cool.

Armistead · 06-25-09, 03:03 PM

There is a sonar mod that detects mines and subnets for TMO. Haven't used it yet, but it look's promising.

SteamWake · 06-25-09, 03:12 PM

I was just going to mention subnets which are much more prevelent and evidently just as deadly (and noisy) as mines :rotfl:

Loud_Silence · 06-25-09, 04:47 PM

Finding mines on stock game very rare? I don't think so...

This is west of Shikoku island, on my way to Osaka.

Results: hull damage 30%, betteries at 25%, diesel less than 50% and half of the crew injured. Plus i got some flooding and a lot of systems damaged.

Stealhead · 06-25-09, 09:55 PM

They are very rare in stock compared to the likley hood of finging them in TMO that was TMOs creator saying that the mines aretoo rare in stock not me. It just means in the mined areas of the game therewill be more in TMO than stock.If you had TMO you'd have seen more mines.

Steamwake yeah the nets are in a way worse as they cover a larger area.

Armistead yeah I dont know if that sonar "shows" the mines somehow or if you can hear them on your own.

Armistead · 06-25-09, 10:55 PM

Look at the ME in stock. Rare, unless one of the single missions compared to TMO. You may run into them in a few places, where in TMO there are several minefields. I played stock for 5 months and never hit one. I'm sure I've hit several with TMO.

06-24-09, 06:34 PM	#1
ctt244 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	mines in SH4 Hi all , can any one yell why the mines in SH4 do not show in the missions ?? CT

06-24-09, 06:53 PM	#3
ctt244 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	thanks for the rep. what i ment was i can ont see the mines at all , as get to a mine field in a mission where i know mines are , i use the scope to see them but they are never there ?? and when i go outside the sub to see why still no mines ? ct

06-24-09, 08:14 PM	#5
runningdeer Frogman Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Huntley, IL Posts: 305 Downloads: 142 Uploads: 1	That's a really cool shot. I wondered once too, if you could see the minds. Had thought about going to a known mind field to see them. __________________

06-24-09, 08:45 PM	#6
Akula4745 Convicted Ship Killer Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Just out of sight... plotting your course and speed Posts: 846 Downloads: 371 Uploads: 1	Nice screenshot, Mr. A! __________________ Akula4745 "If you sit by the river long enough... the body of your enemy will float by -- SunTzu"

06-25-09, 10:13 AM	#7
ctt244 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 9 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Mines, Thanks all who sent in a reply ,AS said not many in the missions , Ill have to change that . Made a test mission and all is ok with that , it is a single mission, but can i use it in the sub school?. thanks again all. Ct

06-24-09, 06:48 PM	#2
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	If you are talking about the mines that are waiting for you to set them off you wont find that info and in stock mines are very rare. If you are refering to where are the mines some subs can lay? Well dont bother looking you cant lay mines in any US Navy sub in SH4.

06-24-09, 07:27 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	As stated, your chances of running into a mine is highly unlikely. Trying to find one would be like looking for a needle in a haystack. There is a minefield in the Tsuyama Strait that if you look hard enough, you'll find them. If they put mines in the stock game, they are very rare to find. You can find more mines with the supermods. I know TMO has several minefields. I just happened to be looking at my sub when I found this one, but it was too late. You can see the chain and the mine is rubbing near the front of the con tower. I'm fairly certain mines in TMO are set where you will not hit them running on the surface, just periscope depth only, so you're fairly safe anyway. Your not going to see mines floating on the top of the water. Also with TMO there is a sonar mod that detects mines and subnets. Your chances of hitting a subnet is fairly good in many area's... Still, you don't want to see a mine anyway...or hit one. If you just want to see mines, there are single missions full of them. This one blew, but I made it back to base.

06-25-09, 11:46 AM	#8
Loud_Silence Planesman Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 193 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I once, and only once, found a mine within the campaign with the stock SH4 with U-Boat Missions (but playing as american). It was near taiwan.

06-25-09, 12:27 PM	#9
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	You will see them if you happen to be looking around your sub with free cam and a mine happens to be near by but I really would not bother looking with the express goal of finding one.Also it would not be very accurate to use this method to avoid mines.It will make a better picture to happen across one unplaned as Armistead did as he explained in another thread where he showed the conning tower about to embrace mine picture above. I think it says in the TMO read me somewhere that the number of mines was increased from 1 mine per sq/km to 9 to 15 mines per sq/km of course you must be in a mined area to see the ratio.

06-25-09, 03:03 PM	#11
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	There is a sonar mod that detects mines and subnets for TMO. Haven't used it yet, but it look's promising.

06-25-09, 03:12 PM	#12
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I was just going to mention subnets which are much more prevelent and evidently just as deadly (and noisy) as mines :rotfl: __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

06-25-09, 04:47 PM	#13
Loud_Silence Planesman Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 193 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Finding mines on stock game very rare? I don't think so... This is west of Shikoku island, on my way to Osaka. Results: hull damage 30%, betteries at 25%, diesel less than 50% and half of the crew injured. Plus i got some flooding and a lot of systems damaged. Last edited by Loud_Silence; 06-25-09 at 05:06 PM.

06-25-09, 09:55 PM	#14
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	They are very rare in stock compared to the likley hood of finging them in TMO that was TMOs creator saying that the mines aretoo rare in stock not me. It just means in the mined areas of the game therewill be more in TMO than stock.If you had TMO you'd have seen more mines. Steamwake yeah the nets are in a way worse as they cover a larger area. Armistead yeah I dont know if that sonar "shows" the mines somehow or if you can hear them on your own.

06-25-09, 10:55 PM	#15
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Look at the ME in stock. Rare, unless one of the single missions compared to TMO. You may run into them in a few places, where in TMO there are several minefields. I played stock for 5 months and never hit one. I'm sure I've hit several with TMO.