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Old 12-23-20, 11:49 AM   #1
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Default "Backfire,s & Blinders & Badgers & Bears, oh my!"

now that im well under way on new models for cold waters


that got me thinking about the lack of Soviet Naval Jet-Powered Bombers & Command & Control Aircraft


so im addressing this in 2 ways



first off 4 new Russian Naval front line Bombers from 60,s to Now




1.) The Tupolev Tu-16 (NATO reporting name: Badger)



2.) The Tupolev Tu-22 (NATO reporting name: Blinder)



3.) The Tupolev Tu-22M (NATO reporting name: Backfire)



4.) The Tupolev Tu-22M3M (NATO reporting name: Backfire)



These New Jet Navy Bombers add more challenge to the game Because they are faster then Propeller Aircraft so they get to you Much Faster


so in turn you have less time to react & get away from the launch point once you have fired missiles


or if you get detected via other means they can get to your location far faster





the second change is the arrival of AWACS


("Airborne Warning And Control System")



1.) The Beriev A-50 (NATO reporting name: Mainstay)

2.) The Beriev A-100 (NATO reporting name: Mainstay)


to cold waters they add Very Large Radar detection to the Ai,s side if not total map coverage which if you on a surface ship is very bad thing


one thing to note ive not looked if AI,S share radar yet so depending if they do or dont that will matter when im Designing em



ill put up my research notes in case any one wants to look :



The Tupolev Tu-22 (NATO reporting name: Blinder)



was the first supersonic bomber to enter production in the Soviet Union and the world's first

aircraft of its class. Manufactured by Tupolev, the Tu-22 entered service with the Soviet

military in the 1960s. The last examples were retired during the early 2000s. Produced in

comparatively small numbers, the aircraft was a disappointment, lacking the intercontinental

range that had been expected. Later in their service life, Tu-22s were used as launch

platforms for the Soviet Kh-22 standoff missile, and as reconnaissance aircraft. Tu-22s were

sold to other nations, including Libya and Iraq. The Tu-22 was one of the few Soviet bombers

to see combat; Libyan Tu-22s were used against Tanzania and Chad, and Iraqi Tu-22s were

used during the Iran–Iraq War.



The Tupolev Tu-16 (NATO reporting name: Badger)


was a twin-engined jet strategic heavy bomber used by the Soviet Union. It has flown for

more than 60 years, and the Chinese licence-built Xian H-6 remains in service with the

People's Liberation Army Air Force.


In the late 1940s, the Soviet Union was strongly committed to matching the United States in

strategic bombing capability. The Soviets' only long-range bomber at the time was Tupolev's

Tu-4 'Bull', a reverse-engineered copy of the American B-29 Superfortress. The development

of the notably powerful Mikulin AM-3 turbojet led to the possibility of a large, jet-powered

bomber.

The Tupolev design bureau began work on the Tu-88 ("Aircraft N") prototypes in 1950. The

Tu-88 first flew on 27 April 1952. After winning a competition against the Ilyushin Il-46, it was

approved for production in December 1952. The first production bombers entered service

with Frontal Aviation in 1954, receiving the service designation Tu-16. It received the NATO

reporting name Badger-A

It had a new, large swept wing and two large Mikulin AM-3 turbojets, one in each wing root. It

could carry a single massive FAB-9000 9,000 kg (20,000 lb) conventional bomb (the Russian

equivalent of the British Grand Slam) or various nuclear weapons for a range of around 4,800

km (3,000 mi) Production took place in 3 aviation plants - in Kazan, Kuybyshev and

Voronezh.

Although the Tu-16 began as a high-altitude, free-fall bomber, in the mid-1950s it was

equipped to carry early Soviet cruise missiles. The Tu-16KS-1 (Badger-B) version could carry

AS-1 missiles over a combat radius of 1,800 km (1,100 mi). These very large weapons were

aerodynamically similar to the Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 fighter, fitted with either a nuclear or

conventional warhead, having a range of about 140 km (85 mi). They were intended for use

primarily against US Navy aircraft carriers and other large surface ships. Subsequent Tu-16s

were converted to carry later, more advanced missiles, while their designations changed

several times.


Egyptian Tu-16s (1980)
A versatile design, the Tu-16 was built in numerous specialized variants for aerial

reconnaissance, maritime surveillance, electronic intelligence gathering (ELINT), and

electronic warfare (ECM). A total of 1,507 aircraft were constructed in three plants in the

Soviet Union, in 1954–1962. A civilian adaptation, the Tupolev Tu-104, saw passenger service

with Aeroflot. The Tu-16 was also exported to Indonesia, Egypt, and Iraq. It continued to be

used by the Air Forces and naval aviation of the Soviet Union and subsequently Russia, until

1993.

Delivery of the Tu-16 to China began in 1958, and the Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation

(XAC) license-produced the aircraft under the Chinese designation Xian H-6. At least 120 of

these aircraft remain in service. On 14 May 1965, one of the PLAAF Tu-16 bombers carried

out the first airborne nuclear weapon test inside China.



The Tupolev Tu-22M (NATO reporting name: Backfire)



is a supersonic, variable-sweep wing, long-range strategic and maritime strike bomber

developed by the Tupolev Design Bureau in the 1960s. According to some sources, the

bomber was believed to be designated Tu-26 at one time. During the Cold War, the Tu-22M

was operated by the Soviet Air Forces (VVS) in a missile carrier strategic bombing role, and

by the Soviet Naval Aviation (Aviacija Vojenno-Morskogo Flota, AVMF) in a long-range

maritime anti-shipping role. Significant numbers remain in service with the Russian Air

Force, and as of 2014 more than 100 Tu-22Ms are in use.



Modernization

An initial attempt at modernizing the Tu-22M, Adaptation-45.03M, based around modernising

the aircraft's radar, began in 1990, but was abandoned before reaching production. In

2007, work began on a new radar for the Tu-22M, the NV-45, which was first flown on a Tu-

22M in 2008, with four more repaired Tu-22Ms refitted with NV-45 radars in 2014–2015.

A contract for a full mid-life upgrade, the Tu-22M3M was signed in September 2014. The

aircraft is to receive a further modified NV-45M radar, together with new navigation equipment

and a modified flight control system. A new self-defense electronic radar suite is fitted,

replacing the tail gun of the existing Tu-22M3. Much of the new avionics are shared with the

upgraded Tu-160M2. Armament is planned to be enhanced by adding the new Kh-32

missile, a heavily modified version of the current Kh-22, the subsonic Kh-SD, the hypersonic

Kh-MT, or the Kh-47M2 Kinzhal missiles.Deliveries of the Tu-22M3M are expected to begin in

2021.

On 11 May 2020, it was reported by TASS, citing anonymous sources in the military-industrial

complex, that a test launch of a new hypersonic missile, not belonging to the Kh-32 family,

was conducted from a Tu-22M3M. Reportedly, work on the missile was initiated several

years ago, and its test are expected to be completed "simultaneously with the work on the

upgraded Tu-22M3M bomber"

A separate, simpler, upgrade program (SVP-24-22) is being carried out by the company

Gefest & T, based on avionics developed for the Sukhoi Su-24 attack aircraft, including a new

computer, a new navigation system and digital processing for the aircraft's radar. The

upgrade is claimed to greatly increase navigation accuracy and bomb delivery. A SVP-24-22-

equipped Tu-22M underwent trials in 2009, and the program has been ordered into

production, with deliveries from 2012.



The Beriev A-50 (NATO reporting name: Mainstay)


is a Soviet airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft based on the Ilyushin Il-76

transport. Developed to replace the Tupolev Tu-126 "Moss", the A-50 first flew in 1978. Its

existence was revealed to the Western Bloc in 1980 by Adolf Tolkachev. It entered service in

1984, with about 40 produced by 1992


Modernization

The Beriev A-100 is a Russian-built airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft

based on the Il-76MD-90A transport aircraft. This aircraft is developed to replace the Beriev

A-50 in Russian Air Force service. Avionics and configuration will be similar to the A-50U, but

with a new Vega Premier Active Phased Array Radar


The A-100 is designated as the izdeliye PM, a project meant to develop a replacement for the

A-50 AEW&C aircraft. The aircraft is based on the improved Il-76MD-90A, which is equipped

with new PS-90A-76 turbofan engines that are 15% more powerful than the D-30KP used by

the Il-76. The external shape of the A-100 will be similar to the A-50, with the main radar array

housed in a rotating dome mounted on two struts above the fuselage. The new Vega Premier

AESA radar in the dome will have electronic steering in elevation while azimuth is controlled

by the rotation of the dome. The array will rotate once every 5 seconds, thus improving the

radar's ability to track fast moving targets.

It can detect aerial targets more than 370 miles away and warships nearly 250 miles away.

In April 2020, it was said by a source in the Russian military industry that Russia’s Aerospace

Forces will begin taking delivery of the new Beriev A-100 in 2024, to complement and

eventually replace the existing Beriev A-50 and A-50U AEW planes in the Aerospace Forces’

inventory today


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Old 01-14-21, 08:27 AM   #2
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Nice! Don't forget the Tu-160 "Blackjack" missile carrier. Maybe you should apply to work for the Blue Waters (indie) or Sea Power (microprose) devs.
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Old 01-14-21, 03:24 PM   #3
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yer their were loads of cold WAR era jet bombers they pumped em out fast

i still need to make my Back fire,s textures now you remind me of jets

cheer,s for the comment


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Old 01-15-21, 03:38 AM   #4
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Nimrod would be good to see also
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Old 01-15-21, 10:33 AM   #5
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the nimrod & V bombers will be included the Vulcan was one of my favorites


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Quote:
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the nimrod & V bombers will be included the Vulcan was one of my favorites


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Wow this is going to be an amazing package, i used to live at RAF Scampton as a kid in the 70's/80's when the Vulcans were based there it was absolutely amazing watching them taking off and landing right next to the swing park.


Really looking forward to the release of your work mate.
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Old 01-16-21, 03:16 PM   #7
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yer the Vulcan's were very good & had a very short take off




Sounded good too & they could even do a Barrel roll


and this was a full sized Bomber and this was Back then


also 1 single push button start when on


"The four-minute warning"


very Impressive they also looked very good


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Back in the day when Great Britain really did build great aircraft, even the Americans loved the Vulcan and i can remember a video some years ago where the Vulcans simulated attacks on the USA against the Strategic Air Command and faired pretty well over US Cities.


The one thing i do question in my 40 something years on this planet is that the Soviets/Russians still send updated versions of the TU95 to test our QRA, how much money have NATO spent to intercept the same platform over the last 70 years, at the end of the day the Long Range Bomber is all but a stand off deliery platform so in an all out nuclear conflict it is bascially a logisitcal platform delivering its passengers much the same as an SSBN would be.
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Old 01-27-21, 06:52 PM   #9
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Default asymmetric engagement warfare

asymmetric engagement warfare


this in a nut shell sums up Russia military NAVY & air force reconnaissance tactics

also under sea surveillance & Undersea Cable Tapping


they are excellent at using a few assets to make us use a load


their navy only goes to sea now and a gain


ours is 100% in service

more for less they have fewer ships even less that are modern and capable
yes they are expanding at a good rate but

do not forget they are losing loads that are too far gone to modernize or not compatible to be modernized


so their modernization is slow


"AND HARD TO MOD because its a MESS"




THIS is also why you see russian ships Bristling with weapons

THIS isent a good idear tho


1.) less room for your crew


2.) way dearer maintenance costs


3.) More chance of Malfunctions


4.) more chance for explosions from enemy fire




"Hell even their air craft carrier "Admiral_Kuznetsov" has VLS"

"MIND YOU they class it as Aircraft-Carrying Heavy Cruiser"

thats actually a good idea given the larger excess flat top space on a carrier or the sides



also if your crews are not in service all the time they lose their edge no matter how good you can not beat real life experience HANDS ON !!!!


A BOOK or a simulation is ok but its not for real

for starters

YOU YOUR SELF KNOW ITS NOT FOR REAL


this matters ...... and will all ways matter

theirs a old saying


ALL THE GEAR AND NO IDEAR




i can give a new solider the better equipment but

a experienced solider will do more with less


same apply,s to the air force or navy


Ill give a example on a firing range once i saw a solider start a live fire training course


it was timed

what you were suppose to do was conserve your ammo shoot as many targets as possible as fast and as best you could


no solider was given a brief and only one mag of 30 rounds


then told to Go !!!!!!!


this was multi nation exercise


any ways a few went in took a min or so


then this new guy went in & came out VERY FAST


& said "you haven't given us enough ammo"


so we went in AND ....


he had blown all 30 rounds on the first target


NOT ideal


i could have used a few navy examples but that one stayed with me


ive got some spare time tomorrow ill try make some V bombers & that Nimrod


ive not forgotten "sonicninja"


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Old 01-28-21, 08:23 AM   #10
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Default Vulcan & Blue Steel / Skybolt

this is the first go at a Vulcan needs texturing tho


for armament thinking Blue Steel Early on then the GAM-87 Skybolt System


The Avro Blue Steel

was a British air-launched, rocket-propelled nuclear armed standoff missile, built to arm the V bomber force. It allowed the bomber to launch the missile against its target while still outside the range of surface-to-air missiles (SAMs). The missile proceeded to the target at speeds up to Mach 3, and would trigger within 100 m of the pre-defined target point.

Blue Steel entered service in 1963, by which point improved SAMs with longer range had greatly eroded the advantages of the design. A longer-range version, Blue Steel II, was considered, but cancelled in favour of the much longer-range GAM-87 Skybolt system from the US. When development of that system was cancelled in 1962, the V-bomber fleet was considered highly vulnerable. Blue Steel remained the primary British nuclear deterrent weapon until the Royal Navy started operating Polaris ballistic missiles from Resolution-class submarines.


For In game purposes ill make "Blue Steel & Skybolt" Very Large One hit Very fast Ship Killer Missile,s


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