SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-04-21, 01:12 PM   #8821
Arlo
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,304
Downloads: 214
Uploads: 0
Default

__________________
-Arlo
Arlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-21, 05:38 PM   #8822
Admiral8Q
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada
Posts: 1,080
Downloads: 24
Uploads: 0


Default

"Herd Immunity" can be reached naturally, without medicine. For example, over 98% of the natives of the Americas, specifically the Aztecs, Mayans, etc, died, but about 2% became resistant to the diseases Europeans brought over.
__________________


Admiral8Q is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-21, 06:15 PM   #8823
Arlo
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,304
Downloads: 214
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Admiral8Q View Post
"Herd Immunity" can be reached naturally, without medicine. For example, over 98% of the natives of the Americas, specifically the Aztecs, Mayans, etc, died, but about 2% became resistant to the diseases Europeans brought over.
And that right there promotes vaccine use.
__________________
-Arlo
Arlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-21, 09:30 PM   #8824
MaDef
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,046
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arlo View Post
And that right there promotes vaccine use.
LMAO..... There's a bit of a difference between a 98% mortality rate and a 2% mortality rate.
MaDef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-21, 11:37 PM   #8825
Arlo
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,304
Downloads: 214
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MaDef View Post
LMAO..... There's a bit of a difference between a 98% mortality rate and a 2% mortality rate.
Because mortality rate never shifts ... especially with mutation (fed by unvaxxed). Guh-yuk.
__________________
-Arlo
Arlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 08:25 AM   #8826
MaDef
Ace of the Deep
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,046
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arlo View Post
Because mortality rate never shifts ... especially with mutation (fed by unvaxxed). Guh-yuk.
Ahh.. but even with the Mutations covid-19 mortality rate is dropping. And that fact is due not to masks & social distancing, but to the combination of the vaccine and natural immunity. So quit trying to scare the sheeple.
MaDef is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 08:25 AM   #8827
Rockstar
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 11,811
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arlo View Post
Because mortality rate never shifts ... especially with mutation (fed by unvaxxed). Guh-yuk.

Fed by the unvaxxed? Lol you just made that load of misinformation up didn’t you?
__________________
Guardian of the honey and nuts


Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.
Rockstar is online   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 08:52 AM   #8828
Arlo
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,304
Downloads: 214
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
Fed by the unvaxxed? Lol you just made that load of misinformation up didn’t you?
Nope. Misinfo is your bag.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...ants-heres-how

https://hub.jhu.edu/2021/07/19/andre...elta-variants/
__________________
-Arlo
Arlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 09:08 AM   #8829
Rockstar
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 11,811
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

LOL. It’s obvious you don’t read any of your own links either.

Just so you know there are virologists and evolutionary biologists a plenty who would disagree with Pekozs “presumptions” and insert their own.
__________________
Guardian of the honey and nuts


Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

Last edited by Rockstar; 10-05-21 at 09:24 AM.
Rockstar is online   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 09:27 AM   #8830
Catfish
Dipped Squirrel Operative
 
Catfish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky
Posts: 16,892
Downloads: 38
Uploads: 0


Default

^ what do you think fuels mutation and replication of the virus if not people who are a) unvaccinated or b) have not had Covid yet?
__________________


>^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.
Catfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 09:52 AM   #8831
Arlo
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,304
Downloads: 214
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
^ what do you think fuels mutation and replication of the virus if not people who are a) unvaccinated or b) have not had Covid yet?
In the case of Covid vs. Humanity the defense team for Covid is rather weak.
__________________
-Arlo
Arlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 10:24 AM   #8832
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 27,343
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
After implementing some of the strictest rules in bid to battle back the pandemic last year, Ardern acknowledged during a press conference on Monday New Zealand can not fully eradicate coronavirus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp
__________________
“You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.”
― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 11:26 AM   #8833
Rockstar
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Zendia Bar & Grill
Posts: 11,811
Downloads: 10
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
^ what do you think fuels mutation and replication of the virus if not people who are a) unvaccinated or b) have not had Covid yet?
What do I think? Well, thanks for asking, if I were to guess I would say evolution fuels the virus attempt to survive.

A virus needs a host to survive. Seems to me those who have NOT been infected play absolutely no part whatsoever in the evolution of a virus. I know some people say vaccinations can cause a virus to evolve and so too will our own immune response. Heck just look at our meat and poultry industries. Mass vaccination galore and guess what? They are STILL having to develop new vaccines against new variations and disease. Why? Because I think those little virus just keep evolving in order to survive whatever is thrown at them. Surely after decades of pumping animals with vaccine the virus should have been eradicated by now, right?

I’m sure you can find data to the contrary. The internet is filled with opinion that confirm your personal bias. As for myself I really don’t have a clue and just rely on my own common sense. They have their opinion I have mine.
__________________
Guardian of the honey and nuts


Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

Last edited by Rockstar; 10-05-21 at 05:31 PM.
Rockstar is online   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 11:32 AM   #8834
Arlo
The Old Man
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,304
Downloads: 214
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
I know some people say vaccinations can cause a virus to evolve and so too will natural immunity.
Some people? Whom, per say, regarding blaming the vaccinations? Joe Rogan? Ben Shapiro? Tucker Carlson? Marjorie Taylor Greene?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockstar View Post
The internet is filled with opinion (and scientific information) that confirm your personal bias (and reality). As for myself I really don’t have a clue (understatement) and just rely on my own common sense (hilarious).
__________________
-Arlo
Arlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-21, 05:16 PM   #8835
3catcircus
Grey Wolf
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 951
Downloads: 246
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish View Post
^ what do you think fuels mutation and replication of the virus if not people who are a) unvaccinated or b) have not had Covid yet?
Vaccinated people are getting COVID - there is no good study showing mutation rates in the vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

If you haven't gotten COVID yet, you aren't contributing to mutation and replication.
3catcircus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
apocalypse, china, coronavirus, covid-19, flu, masks, plague, preppers, virus, vitamine d, wuhan

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.