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Subtype Zero · 02-27-21, 09:54 PM

Over ten years ago, I fixed a similar problem with C3 cargo ships sitting too high in the water. The fix involved increasing the values for mass and/or surface_displacement in either the .sim or .cfg files.

I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but it's been a long time! With a little trial and error, we should be able to fix the T2 in the same way.

Subtype Zero · 02-27-21, 10:35 PM

I've done some checking and I've found a few interesting things. Please note, however, that I do NOT have the values used in the LSH mod. Someone else will have to supply those values. However, I was able to compare stock SH3 with the NYGM mod, which I am using, so we can use these for comparison purposes.

In stock SH3, for the NOTM_T2 tanker:
Mass = 21880
Displacement = 10448
gc_height = 8.0 (influences roll and "bobbiness" of model on the ocean)

In NYGM:
Mass = 21880
Displacement = 7791
gc_height = 5.5

You can immediately see that both the displacement and gc_height values are lower in NYGM than in stock SH3. Next, I want to take a closer look at how the T2 looks in stock and using the NYGM mod in game. Are there any mission builders that can tell me how to build a simple mission with T2 tankers? I used to know how to do this, but I have now forgotten.

Fifi · 02-28-21, 02:53 AM

There are 2 types of Tanker T2:
- One called Tanker T2 (NOTM T2 in sea folder), whose draft is 9m
- One called Tanker T2 E (NTME in sea folder) whose draft is 5.5m

They are both same 3D model (it seems), but one is way above sea level (the T2 E), because draft is 5.5m...
This is very noticeable using the museum view.

Now, in game, the T2 E is very often spawned in convoys...
I suspect it’s voluntary, but do not catch the purpose other than the E could mean empty!

Anyway, even if it’s for the empty purpose, it’s looking kind of weird ingame (only in my opinion)...but we can live with that

Mister_M · 02-28-21, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fifi

There are 2 types of Tanker T2:
- One called Tanker T2 (NOTM T2 in sea folder), whose draft is 9m
- One called Tanker T2 E (NTME in sea folder) whose draft is 5.5m

They are both same 3D model (it seems), but one is way above sea level (the T2 E), because draft is 5.5m...
This is very noticeable using the museum view.

Now, in game, the T2 E is very often spawned in convoys...
I suspect it’s voluntary, but do not catch the purpose other than the E could mean empty!

Anyway, even if it’s for the empty purpose, it’s looking kind of weird ingame (only in my opinion)...but we can live with that

Yes, it's a bit weird in the middle of the Atlantic, but not in harbours. You can search for pictures of real empty tankers (or even empty freighters) on the internet, you will see by yourself how it looks.

Mad Mardigan · 02-28-21, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister_M

Yes, it's a bit weird in the middle of the Atlantic, but not in harbours. You can search for pictures of real empty tankers (or even empty freighters) on the internet, you will see by yourself how it looks.

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...AAAAB0AAAAAEAU

Best pic I could find, showing a tanker (tagged as empty) riding a bit high...

Would say on the - One called Tanker T2 E (NTME in sea folder) whose draft is 5.5m

Maybe bump that up to say... 6m or 6.5m should bring it down a bit into the water & not have the props being out of the water & more in line with looking like the ship in the pic...

Hope this info helps...

M. M.

Subtype Zero · 02-28-21, 12:27 PM

Yeah, the NTME type is not in either my vanilla SH3 or the NYGM mod. Could someone post the mass and displacement values of both the NOTM_T2 and the NTME in LSH 2020 for comparison purposes?

CJMars · 02-28-21, 03:01 PM

Hey all, is there an attack disc mod for LSH3? I can't seem to find one buy searching Google or Subsim (or maybe I'm just an idiot) Please help!

Urmel · 03-15-21, 12:03 AM

Hi LSH3 friends

Some SH3 players have asked me.

Why many "old" mods (for GWX/WAC/CCOM) do NOT work for "LSH3-2020"!?

Many of the old mods (there are hundreds) would have to be re-adapted for "LSH3-2020".

This is a monumental amount of work.

The LSH3 team decides which old mods we accept for 2021 - and which we don't.

We are now working on "Full Version Edition-2021".

Write us here which "old" SH3 mods you would like to have for "LSH3-2021"!

Thanks and greetings
LSH3-Urmel

U301 · 03-15-21, 07:08 AM

TAM 2.01 + UCS 3.01 Kombi (CCoM 12.0 mit WS-GUI )
(In no way to decry this mod but can the meters be said in the same voice for every depth?)

Fantastic mod!
KUrtz

ericlea · 03-15-21, 05:51 PM

Hi Urmel !
It's great to ask the players this question !

What we are used to seeing in other supermods and which is not yet officially in LSH :

-Crew on deck
-Uboat pennants (when at home harbour).
-Nice splash waters
-Rubini´s underwater dust&plancton

dex · 03-20-21, 05:12 AM

1920*1080 resolution,please..... someone maybe know something
I have strong pc config.

ericlea · 03-20-21, 09:41 AM

Sure ! LSH team is making one entirely of her own.
One FULL OFFICIAL LSH Widegui 1920x1080 is in production !
it's a lot of work, we have to wait a few months but it will be worth it !

Urmel · 03-20-21, 10:37 AM

Hello dex

The LSH3 team is working daily on the new Full-HD-GUI 1920x1080px = LSH3 Edition 2021.

CPU processor speed (GHZ), or old graphics cards are not so important.

An SSD hard disk, for all L/SH3 installation files!, and at least 8 GB Ram working memory, is important to be able to load and play quickly.

To play old SH3 supermods, without CTD, you need very precise modder knowledge.

We are working for 2021!

Greetings, Urmel

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

CapZap1970 · 03-20-21, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urmel

Hello dex

The LSH3 team is working daily on the new Full-HD-GUI 1920x1080px = LSH3 Edition 2021.

CPU processor speed (GHZ), or old graphics cards are not so important.

An SSD hard disk, for all L/SH3 installation files!, and at least 8 GB Ram working memory, is important to be able to load and play quickly.

To play old SH3 supermods, without CTD, you need very precise modder knowledge.

We are working for 2021!

Greetings, Urmel

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

Great news, Urmel!!!

Thanks a lot for the hard work!

dex · 03-21-21, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericlea

Sure ! LSH team is making one entirely of her own.
One FULL OFFICIAL LSH Widegui 1920x1080 is in production !
it's a lot of work, we have to wait a few months but it will be worth it !

Thank you

02-27-21, 09:54 PM	#211
Subtype Zero Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 19,998 Leagues under the sea Posts: 262 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Over ten years ago, I fixed a similar problem with C3 cargo ships sitting too high in the water. The fix involved increasing the values for mass and/or surface_displacement in either the .sim or .cfg files. I'm sorry I can't be more specific, but it's been a long time! With a little trial and error, we should be able to fix the T2 in the same way. __________________

02-27-21, 10:35 PM	#212
Subtype Zero Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 19,998 Leagues under the sea Posts: 262 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I've done some checking and I've found a few interesting things. Please note, however, that I do NOT have the values used in the LSH mod. Someone else will have to supply those values. However, I was able to compare stock SH3 with the NYGM mod, which I am using, so we can use these for comparison purposes. In stock SH3, for the NOTM_T2 tanker: Mass = 21880 Displacement = 10448 gc_height = 8.0 (influences roll and "bobbiness" of model on the ocean) In NYGM: Mass = 21880 Displacement = 7791 gc_height = 5.5 You can immediately see that both the displacement and gc_height values are lower in NYGM than in stock SH3. Next, I want to take a closer look at how the T2 looks in stock and using the NYGM mod in game. Are there any mission builders that can tell me how to build a simple mission with T2 tankers? I used to know how to do this, but I have now forgotten. __________________ Last edited by Subtype Zero; 02-27-21 at 10:54 PM.

02-28-21, 02:53 AM	#213
Fifi Navy Seal Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: France Posts: 5,717 Downloads: 452 Uploads: 0	There are 2 types of Tanker T2: - One called Tanker T2 (NOTM T2 in sea folder), whose draft is 9m - One called Tanker T2 E (NTME in sea folder) whose draft is 5.5m They are both same 3D model (it seems), but one is way above sea level (the T2 E), because draft is 5.5m... This is very noticeable using the museum view. Now, in game, the T2 E is very often spawned in convoys... I suspect it’s voluntary, but do not catch the purpose other than the E could mean empty! Anyway, even if it’s for the empty purpose, it’s looking kind of weird ingame (only in my opinion)...but we can live with that __________________ https://www.mediafire.com/file/oirl8...ION_V5.7z/file

02-28-21, 12:27 PM	#216
Subtype Zero Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 19,998 Leagues under the sea Posts: 262 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Yeah, the NTME type is not in either my vanilla SH3 or the NYGM mod. Could someone post the mass and displacement values of both the NOTM_T2 and the NTME in LSH 2020 for comparison purposes? __________________

02-28-21, 03:01 PM	#217
CJMars Seaman Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: St Louis, MO Posts: 32 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Attack Disc Mod for LSH3 Hey all, is there an attack disc mod for LSH3? I can't seem to find one buy searching Google or Subsim (or maybe I'm just an idiot) Please help!

03-15-21, 12:03 AM	#218
Urmel LSH2020 Manager Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 188 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hi LSH3 friends Some SH3 players have asked me. Why many "old" mods (for GWX/WAC/CCOM) do NOT work for "LSH3-2020"!? Many of the old mods (there are hundreds) would have to be re-adapted for "LSH3-2020". This is a monumental amount of work. The LSH3 team decides which old mods we accept for 2021 - and which we don't. We are now working on "Full Version Edition-2021". Write us here which "old" SH3 mods you would like to have for "LSH3-2021"! Thanks and greetings LSH3-Urmel __________________ LSH3 DOWNLOAD - LSH3 VIDEOS YOUTUBE - TUTORIALS by THEBERBSTER

03-15-21, 07:08 AM	#219
U301 Officer Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: UK Posts: 248 Downloads: 782 Uploads: 0	TAM 2.01 + UCS 3.01 Kombi (CCoM 12.0 mit WS-GUI ) (In no way to decry this mod but can the meters be said in the same voice for every depth?) Fantastic mod! KUrtz __________________ TorpedoTubesFireFinal. https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dow...o=file&id=2764 2020 SubSim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWTr8me3JlM Last edited by U301; 03-15-21 at 09:04 AM.

03-15-21, 05:51 PM	#220
ericlea Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Strasbourg F Posts: 572 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Hi Urmel ! It's great to ask the players this question ! What we are used to seeing in other supermods and which is not yet officially in LSH : -Crew on deck -Uboat pennants (when at home harbour). -Nice splash waters -Rubini´s underwater dust&plancton __________________ SH3 CCOM12 (+Fifi 2021) Installation Tuto SH3 GWXonealex (2021) Installation Tuto SH3 WAC5.2 (2019) Installation Tuto

03-20-21, 05:12 AM	#221
dex Engineer Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Serbia Posts: 208 Downloads: 198 Uploads: 0	Lsh 3 mod 1920*1080 resolution,please..... someone maybe know something I have strong pc config.

03-20-21, 09:41 AM	#222
ericlea Samurai Navy Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Strasbourg F Posts: 572 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 0	Sure ! LSH team is making one entirely of her own. One FULL OFFICIAL LSH Widegui 1920x1080 is in production ! it's a lot of work, we have to wait a few months but it will be worth it ! __________________ SH3 CCOM12 (+Fifi 2021) Installation Tuto SH3 GWXonealex (2021) Installation Tuto SH3 WAC5.2 (2019) Installation Tuto

03-20-21, 10:37 AM	#223
Urmel LSH2020 Manager Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Switzerland Posts: 188 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hello dex The LSH3 team is working daily on the new Full-HD-GUI 1920x1080px = LSH3 Edition 2021. CPU processor speed (GHZ), or old graphics cards are not so important. An SSD hard disk, for all L/SH3 installation files!, and at least 8 GB Ram working memory, is important to be able to load and play quickly. To play old SH3 supermods, without CTD, you need very precise modder knowledge. We are working for 2021! Greetings, Urmel Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version) __________________ LSH3 DOWNLOAD - LSH3 VIDEOS YOUTUBE - TUTORIALS by THEBERBSTER

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