Conflicting Mods

Col7777 · 08-03-20, 03:49 AM

I like to tweak a bit in these games, I can't help it, I used to do it in Flight Sim to see what would happen IF.

Anyway as some of you know I like to play as a ship a lot, so again I was just experimenting and using the JSGME, I added CL.xyz ship then added CL.abc ship. I got the overwrite popup but I accepted it then played to see what would happen.
On the map popped up a enemy small convoy, I sailed towards it, as usual the ship detected it and I accepted to attack, the ship fired long distance as it normally does but it was super accurate with it's aim, sinking the enemy a lot faster with less shots.
I found another convoy and again this happened, so it was obvious that whatever over-wrote or changed the files did something that made this happen.

This time it was in my favour but it could have gone the other way and made the ship a flop or even crashed the game.
I did this in a separate copy of the game by the way thus keeping the original safe from my tweaking lol.

Col.

propbeanie · 08-03-20, 07:56 AM

When you are doing those "swaps" and / or combinations, are you emptying the Save folder between each JSGME change to the mod-set configuration? The game is really "funny" about loading incompatible stuff from a previous mod set-up if you don't empty the Save folder. The Save system is rather strange in that you would think you have to Save in order for it to have a file in it, but every time you start the game, it pulls info in from the Save folder, that the game itself put there the last time it ran. When you make changes to the mod set, it often involves over-writing existing files. If those file names are already in the Save folder, the next time the game runs, it uses the copy of the file in the Save folder, not the new one in the Game folder, and that is how you end up with weirdness in a "mostly fresh" modded game. If you empty the Save folder, the game will then pull the info from the Game folders, and put that into the Save folder for future use...

Col7777 · 08-03-20, 08:34 AM

Wow, I couldn't have wrote that without getting it all wrong lol.

I understand now, thanks again for taking the time to answer, I just thought if you took a mod out and changed something in it and put it back that was all that was needed.

Col.

propbeanie · 08-03-20, 11:44 AM

It actually depends upon what is edited. Anything though, that is found in the Save folder, has to be "re-set" with a Save folder "cleansing" and refilling.

08-03-20, 03:49 AM	#1
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	Conflicting Mods I like to tweak a bit in these games, I can't help it, I used to do it in Flight Sim to see what would happen IF. Anyway as some of you know I like to play as a ship a lot, so again I was just experimenting and using the JSGME, I added CL.xyz ship then added CL.abc ship. I got the overwrite popup but I accepted it then played to see what would happen. On the map popped up a enemy small convoy, I sailed towards it, as usual the ship detected it and I accepted to attack, the ship fired long distance as it normally does but it was super accurate with it's aim, sinking the enemy a lot faster with less shots. I found another convoy and again this happened, so it was obvious that whatever over-wrote or changed the files did something that made this happen. This time it was in my favour but it could have gone the other way and made the ship a flop or even crashed the game. I did this in a separate copy of the game by the way thus keeping the original safe from my tweaking lol. Col. __________________ Silent and Violent

08-03-20, 07:56 AM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	When you are doing those "swaps" and / or combinations, are you emptying the Save folder between each JSGME change to the mod-set configuration? The game is really "funny" about loading incompatible stuff from a previous mod set-up if you don't empty the Save folder. The Save system is rather strange in that you would think you have to Save in order for it to have a file in it, but every time you start the game, it pulls info in from the Save folder, that the game itself put there the last time it ran. When you make changes to the mod set, it often involves over-writing existing files. If those file names are already in the Save folder, the next time the game runs, it uses the copy of the file in the Save folder, not the new one in the Game folder, and that is how you end up with weirdness in a "mostly fresh" modded game. If you empty the Save folder, the game will then pull the info from the Game folders, and put that into the Save folder for future use... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

08-03-20, 08:34 AM	#3
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	Wow, I couldn't have wrote that without getting it all wrong lol. I understand now, thanks again for taking the time to answer, I just thought if you took a mod out and changed something in it and put it back that was all that was needed. Col. __________________ Silent and Violent

08-03-20, 11:44 AM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,742 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	It actually depends upon what is edited. Anything though, that is found in the Save folder, has to be "re-set" with a Save folder "cleansing" and refilling. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna