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Buddahaid · 01-16-20, 08:24 PM

Just don't bring any pens.

ET2SN · 01-16-20, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Just don't bring any pens.

It reminds me of what "don't ask, don't tell" used to mean back in the 1990's.

-As long as you don't relieve me late for your watch, I don't give a #### what your beliefs are.

-Don't show me a picture of your wife, girlfriend, or kids unless you expect me to lie out my ###.
"No, that's her in the corner."
"Oh, I thought that was a smudge on the picture.."

-or-
"Wow, you must have used a wide-angle lens".

As an example, our gallant CO on the Bremerton decided we needed a "dependent's cruise" because our time in the shipyard wasn't ####ty enough.
So there we are, sailing to Kauai with a load of wives, kids, and the bull#### that entails. I sneak off to berthing to grab some smokes out of my rack and, well, submariners are submariners.

One of my shipmates and his wife decided that if they couldn't hone one off at test depth, well any depth would do.

Let's just say that neither of these people were in demand to pose for fashion magazines.

Never mind their feelings, I had to witness that ####.

Mr Quatro · 01-17-20, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

It reminds me of what "don't ask, don't tell" used to mean back in the 1990's.

-As long as you don't relieve me late for your watch, I don't give a #### what your beliefs are.

-Don't show me a picture of your wife, girlfriend, or kids unless you expect me to lie out my ###.
"No, that's her in the corner."
"Oh, I thought that was a smudge on the picture.."

-or-
"Wow, you must have used a wide-angle lens".

As an example, our gallant CO on the Bremerton decided we needed a "dependent's cruise" because our time in the shipyard wasn't ####ty enough.
So there we are, sailing to Kauai with a load of wives, kids, and the bull#### that entails. I sneak off to berthing to grab some smokes out of my rack and, well, submariners are submariners.

One of my shipmates and his wife decided that if they couldn't hone one off at test depth, well any depth would do.

Let's just say that neither of these people were in demand to pose for fashion magazines.

Never mind their feelings, I had to witness that ####.

Great sea story ...

I thought crews quarters was rigged for red all the time

Start a sea story thread for us wanta bee's

ET2SN · 01-17-20, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I thought crews quarters was rigged for red all the time

No, just most of the time when the ship is underway. Berthing is usually rigged for white when most of the crew is supposed to be awake (manuv. watch, drills, daytime watches and routines in-port, field days

, etc.). There wasn't really a hard and fast policy (it could also be different ship-to-ship) but rig-for-white was better ("safer") unless some guys were trying to sleep.

This is a pretty good question because I've never really had to pay attention to it. Like I said earlier, there's no hard rule about when to change the lighting in berthing. An interesting variation would be week-end in-port duty days. On Sat and Sun, The CO, XO, COB and most of the crew are not on board.
Berthing could be rigged for red by 9 AM if someone had a tough previous night in town or at home.

Jeff-Groves · 01-17-20, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Just don't bring any pens.

No Pens!
I'm wondering if the pens were actually made in Mexico.

Buddahaid · 01-17-20, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

No Pens!
I'm wondering if the pens were actually made in Mexico.

I was pretty sure it was China....

mapuc · 01-21-20, 11:19 AM

I have a law related question.

In some of the movies, series or documentary I have seen where an American court have been a part of this.

Some speaker say something like

State against...name of the accused

Isn't Trump head of the State ?

So what will speaker say when this impeachment start ?

State against Trump ? Or

Markus

Rockstar · 01-21-20, 11:44 AM

Im not by any means a legal scholar. But congress represents the people from their districts. Senators represent their whole state.

I'll hazard a guess and say it would be the People vs the President.

mapuc · 01-21-20, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Im not by any means a legal scholar. But congress represents the people from their districts. Senators represent their whole state.

I'll hazard a guess and say it would be the People vs the President.

You are right

It's People vs the accused and not state vs accused

Markus.

em2nought · 01-21-20, 10:27 PM

Deep state versus the accused.

Buddahaid · 01-21-20, 11:27 PM

It doesn't look very deep to me, do you need glasses?

Dowly · 01-22-20, 06:50 AM

The Senate Republicans voted AGAINST the following:

To subpoena White House documents and records.
To subpoena Department of State documents and records.
To subpoena Office of Management and Budget documents and records.
To subpoena Mulvaney.
To subpoena Department of Defense documents and records.
To subpoena Robert B. Blair
To subpoena Michael P. Duffey.
To subpoena John Robert Bolton.
To provide motions to subpoena witnesses or documents after the question period.
The admission of evidence and classified and confidential materials.
A motion granting the Chief Justice to rule on motions to subpoena witnesses and documents.

u crank · 01-22-20, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

The Senate Republicans voted AGAINST the following:

To subpoena White House documents and records.
To subpoena Department of State documents and records.
To subpoena Office of Management and Budget documents and records.
To subpoena Mulvaney.
To subpoena Department of Defense documents and records.
To subpoena Robert B. Blair
To subpoena Michael P. Duffey.
To subpoena John Robert Bolton.
To provide motions to subpoena witnesses or documents after the question period.
The admission of evidence and classified and confidential materials.
A motion granting the Chief Justice to rule on motions to subpoena witnesses and documents.

An obvious question. Why were these subpoenas not issued during the House impeachment proceedings?

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 01-22-20, 08:34 AM

MaDef · 01-22-20, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

An obvious question. Why were these subpoenas not issued during the House impeachment proceedings?

Odds are those subpoenas would have been challenged in court and either severely restricted or quashed by a judge. Since the House investigating committee was on a fishing expedition, having those subpoenas quashed by a judge would have weakened their "case" to the point that they would never have been able to pass the impeachment articles on the floor.

If you ignore the politics and focus on the "facts" of this case, this investigation would never have made it past a Grand Jury let alone a probable cause (preliminary) hearing.

01-16-20, 08:24 PM	#8401
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,557 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	Just don't bring any pens. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

01-21-20, 11:44 AM	#8408
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 11,830 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Im not by any means a legal scholar. But congress represents the people from their districts. Senators represent their whole state. I'll hazard a guess and say it would be the People vs the President. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

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em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,265 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Deep state versus the accused. __________________ Looks like we need a Lemon Law for Presidents now! DNC sold us a dud, and they knew it.

01-21-20, 11:27 PM	#8411
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,557 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	It doesn't look very deep to me, do you need glasses? __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

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Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,245 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	__________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

01-21-20, 11:19 AM	#8407
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,877 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I have a law related question. In some of the movies, series or documentary I have seen where an American court have been a part of this. Some speaker say something like State against...name of the accused Isn't Trump head of the State ? So what will speaker say when this impeachment start ? State against Trump ? Or Markus

01-22-20, 06:50 AM	#8412
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,005 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	The Senate Republicans voted AGAINST the following: To subpoena White House documents and records. To subpoena Department of State documents and records. To subpoena Office of Management and Budget documents and records. To subpoena Mulvaney. To subpoena Department of Defense documents and records. To subpoena Robert B. Blair To subpoena Michael P. Duffey. To subpoena John Robert Bolton. To provide motions to subpoena witnesses or documents after the question period. The admission of evidence and classified and confidential materials. A motion granting the Chief Justice to rule on motions to subpoena witnesses and documents.