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Old 02-25-2020, 05:58 AM   #31
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Seem similar to the Norwegian frigate accident against a tanker, causing the frigate to sink.

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Old 02-25-2020, 11:46 AM   #32
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Old 02-25-2020, 01:06 PM   #33
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"Death and valor on a warship doomed by its own Navy."

While reading "Conquering Tide," by Ian Toll, this title could apply to USS ATLANTA during the 13 Nov 1942 action near Savo Island and Guadalcanal, who was fired upon by 'friendly' warships on that overcast, moonless night.


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Great post, test0r. "Do you know which boat is heading toward us, a little port side." Jesus Christ.
Popular Mechanics article: https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...-crash-report/
and USNI report: https://news.usni.org/2018/11/30/nor...ccident-report

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Old 02-25-2020, 10:33 PM   #34
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Before 1996 there were units named Fleet Training Group. You choped to them and were trained by professional experts and instructors in their fields hand selected from the fleet and Coast Guard. You were there until your ship worked as a solid team and knew what you were doing.
They then went to the silly system of train the trainers and a on board team trained the ship so people learned less and less as the training teams were not professional instructors, nor experts in their fields, but held the training slot due to their rank. . so the ship learned how to do things from its own onboard teams. Over time that training level and skill was allowed to degrade further and further. It was like a bad game of telephone tag.
The Commodore of GITMO FTG even gave a speech in 1996 forecasting this would happen but the Navy wanted to save money. You know the results.
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Old 02-26-2020, 01:40 PM   #36
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