So what is a decent Helo sim nowadays?

Mush Martin · 07-23-08, 09:43 AM

Oberon · 07-23-08, 10:26 AM

EECH with all the mods

Mush Martin · 07-23-08, 02:24 PM

Thanks Oberon it looks really good

XabbaRus · 07-23-08, 02:28 PM

A guy called Arneh should be coming out with a functioning 3D Hind cockpit in the nearish future. The 3D Apache cockpit he did is amazing.

Mush Martin · 07-23-08, 09:37 PM

I think an Mi 24 would kind of be fun for an afternoon ride.

FIREWALL · 07-23-08, 10:01 PM

What kind of flight controllers do you use to fly a Helo ?

Skybird · 07-24-08, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by FIREWALL

What kind of flight controllers do you use to fly a Helo ?

HOTAS (stick, throttle), and pedals. Purists may reverse the z-axis (throttle), do adress the collective.

EECH looks okay, but the "flightmodel" is arcade.

Check the videos and previews for Blackshark at simHQ - now THAT promises to become a sim.

P.S. Available at youtube as well. check these:

XabbaRus · 07-24-08, 06:11 AM

I wouldn't call it arcade. In fact I haven't seen a sim yet that models a helos flight model correctly.

EECH isn't that bad of an FM really.....

Blackshark actually looks rubbish. Pretty for sure but I think it will be a big let down.

Mush Martin · 07-24-08, 03:58 PM

Ok its decided, I just love the way Xabbarus says the word "Rubbish"

I will try EECH when I can.
thanks all.
M

SUBMAN1 · 07-24-08, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by XabbaRus

I wouldn't call it arcade. In fact I haven't seen a sim yet that models a helos flight model correctly....

One word - X-Plane. Only real Helo flight you are going to get since it is based on mathmatical models of airflow over surfaces as taken by NASA, instead of a fake model as found in FlightSim X for example. Flightsim X uses a fake model in that they take into account airspeed and what the aircraft is supposed to do in a given situation.

XPlane will instead compute airflow over the rotor blades as it moves through the air at multple different points. If a rotor blade point stalls in a given flight regime, that is taken into account and computed on the effect of the flight itself.

The downside to X-Planes method - to get proper airflow calculation, you must maintain a certain number of FPS. FPS is not an issue with Flightsim X, but its critical to get a proper flight model out of X-Plane. Drop below a certain FPS, and your flightmodel in X-Plane will drop back to a fake one as found in Flightsim X.

-S

ajrimmer42 · 07-26-08, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

EECH with all the mods

Any chance of some links to these mods? I've downloaded the "Full Mod Updater V3" from FileFront, is that what you're suggesting?

Oberon · 07-26-08, 06:18 PM

http://www.eechcentral.com/

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2366722#Post236 6722

ajrimmer42 · 07-27-08, 03:30 AM

Cheers mate!

LobsterBoy · 07-28-08, 11:28 PM

Also keep a look out for a new sim DCS: Black Shark due out later this year (or early next) which stars the KA-50 but will add other platforms later (AH-64). I've not done any testing, but read reports that the flight model should be realistic enough that I'll crash a lot :rotfl:

Anyway the website is www.digitalcombatsimulator.com

07-23-08, 09:43 AM	#1
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	So what is a decent Helo sim nowadays? So what is a decent Helo sim nowadays? __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

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Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Thanks Oberon it looks really good __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	A guy called Arneh should be coming out with a functioning 3D Hind cockpit in the nearish future. The 3D Apache cockpit he did is amazing. __________________

07-23-08, 09:37 PM	#5
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I think an Mi 24 would kind of be fun for an afternoon ride. __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

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FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	What kind of flight controllers do you use to fly a Helo ? __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

07-23-08, 10:26 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	EECH with all the mods

07-24-08, 06:11 AM	#8
XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't call it arcade. In fact I haven't seen a sim yet that models a helos flight model correctly. EECH isn't that bad of an FM really..... Blackshark actually looks rubbish. Pretty for sure but I think it will be a big let down. __________________

07-24-08, 03:58 PM	#9
Mush Martin Eternal Patrol Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,398 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ok its decided, I just love the way Xabbarus says the word "Rubbish" I will try EECH when I can. thanks all. M __________________ RIP Mush Tutorial

07-26-08, 06:18 PM	#12
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	http://www.eechcentral.com/ http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2366722#Post236 6722

07-27-08, 03:30 AM	#13
ajrimmer42 Royal Kinotropist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sheffield, UK Posts: 987 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Cheers mate! __________________ Alex Don't judge a ship by the number of it's guns, but by the skill of it's crew.

07-28-08, 11:28 PM	#14
LobsterBoy Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Minnesota Posts: 127 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Also keep a look out for a new sim DCS: Black Shark due out later this year (or early next) which stars the KA-50 but will add other platforms later (AH-64). I've not done any testing, but read reports that the flight model should be realistic enough that I'll crash a lot :rotfl: Anyway the website is www.digitalcombatsimulator.com