Wuhan virus 2020

[Jimbuna]

[Exocet25fr]

the Omicron variant of coronavirus is "more transmissible" than Delta, but it seems is "less lethal" than Delta !

[mapuc]

Here in Denmark the health authorities has lost the battle against Omicron.

It's out of control. They don't know whether our vaccine protect against this omicron and if it does how much.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Here in Denmark the health authorities has lost the battle against Omicron.

It's out of control. They don't know whether our vaccine protect against this omicron and if it does how much.

Markus

I think every country will soon find themselves in a similar position Markus

[em2nought]

I hope hurricanes start getting ominous names too.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I think every country will soon find themselves in a similar position Markus

The positive thing here is, what Exocet25fr mentioned in his statement

"but it seems is "less lethal" than Delta"

Let's hope it is so.

Another thing I've been accused for believing in fairytales.
A friends friend said I did believe more on our authorities than being critical-In other words believe in fairytales.

She's right-Since I'm not an expert on virology or immunology I do as our authorities say I shall do. Wear facemask where it's mandatory keep distance a.s.o.
I'm very critical to how the Danish government have handled the mink case.

Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen is facing increasing pressure to explain what she knew and when, as an inquiry gathers pace into her government’s illegal move to cull the nation’s entire mink population last year.

https://www.politico.eu/article/dani...ver-mink-cull/

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by em2nought

I hope hurricanes start getting ominous names too.

Necronomicon?

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by mapuc

[...]
Another thing I've been accused for believing in fairytales.
A friends friend said I did believe more on our authorities than being critical-In other words believe in fairytales.

She's right-Since I'm not an expert on virology or immunology I do as our authorities say I shall do.
Markus

So the anti-vaccer and Qanon supportesr are experts

At least listening to elected authorities is better advice than believing the anti-science mob, which is not only "not an expert in virology" but seems to have forgotten all they learned at school. If they ever went there.

And they say their opinion does count the same as a tested scientific one just because all opinions matter?

Science has brought mankind to what it is, invented vaccines, overcame problems, brought man to the moon. So science is baaaaad, ok let's see how this develops in the next decades.

[Skybird]

In Germany, the naturalist movement from over 120 years ago, the natural body (and nakedness) cult the Nazis made of it, the decades long appeasing and comforting and even farming of esoteric anti-science cult and anti-science attitude and alternative health theories, the subsidizing of homeopathy and every balla balla anti-science movement, all this with a deep rooting mistrust for state authority and Westgermaness/democracy, and disgust for what Merkel had done and not done in this audience'S percpetion - all this comes together to form the hardcore group of anti-vaccer in Europe not in any of the Romanic states and Slavic states, but the German tongued regions of Europe.



In Germany, health insurrance can andm iust pay for homepathy. I red some days aago that in America homeopathic "globuli" need to have wanrigns ont he packs that these are no effective medicla drugs for any treatment, like shocking warnings on cigarette boxes. Is that true? If so, it illustrates how twisted the Germans are.


I expect that comparable factors explain the US-American anti vaccer scene and its unshaken strong support for a maniac like Trumpy-the-Zomby.

Rational arguments acchieve nothing with these people, thera and here alike. Every rational argument they cannot counter, to them is evidence how hostile the state/the others are towards them. Antroposophists and right-leaning mysticists are unshakable in their belief that they have inherited secret superior knowledge that only them and nobody else has and that is given to them to make them the rulersof the world. I believed so when I heard of the magical coffe grinder in the tale of Der Räuber Hotzenplotz. I WAS FIVE YEAR THEN. What is their excuse...? Many of these people simply are loosers who have been left behind by life and job and society and now compensate the feeling of their inferiority with megalomaniac fantasies of how special they are to be part of a secret knowledge society. The Greens over here root very basically on these social grounds.

Governments should stop wanting to motivate them for voluntary change, the core of these groups will never do that. Simply sanction the last stroke of breath out of them until they have no other choice than to do their share, with talking and wanting to convince them nothing can be acchieved anymore. Sometimes superior force is the only remaining option left to solve conflict and crisis. Let them get fired from their jobs and let them being refused for social wellfare. And see how fast many of them must and will change their minds, we have seen it in France, Italy... It does not matter anymore whether they like it and what they think of it. Not after four waves, billions and billions of costs, endless drama in hospitals, and the vast majority being taken hostage by this brutally egoist minority gang.

Roughlyy one and a half year after the vacicnes became available, time is out. Patience is out. Enough is enough. I for myself have the nose stinking full of them messing up my life with their rotten brain nonsense. I would even personally agree to knock them out with a fist punch to jab them, that much done I am with them. Enough is enough.


Enough is just enough. "Es reicht."

[Rockstar]

[Sean C]

Reporting in: Still completely unvaxxed. Still alive.

Sorry to disappoint.

[Rockstar]

Good point. I’ve been working retail interacting with hundreds of people everyday UNMASKED. Got COVID twice still alive , still working.

And the Covidian Cult is furious. Maybe because they’re beginning to realize they’ve been duped again LOL

[Skybird]

FOCUS writes:


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The Frankfurt virologist Sandra Ciesek has now announced the first results of laboratory tests. They confirm the fears regarding vaccination. Ciesek reported via Twitter on Wednesday that, according to their investigation, Omikron canceled the effect of the antibodies provoked by the vaccines compared to the Delta variant, which is currently dominant in Germany. Anyone who has been cross-vaccinated twice with Biontech, twice with Moderna or with Astrazeneca and Biontech will therefore no longer have any immune protection from the antibodies against the new variant after six months. “O percent neutralization” is the sobering result from Ciesek. There is then no longer any protection against infection with Corona. The data from Ciesek have not yet been reviewed by specialist colleagues and have not been published in a specialist magazine. Anyone who has been vaccinated twice with Biontech and has also received a booster vaccination is better protected against the new variant. According to Ciesek, the booster neutralizes at least 25 percent of Omikron three months after the vaccination. At Delta, on the other hand, the booster neutralizes the coronavirus by 95 percent.

According to Ciesek, this means: The protection provided by the booster against Omikron decreases by a factor of 37 compared to Delta. It is unclear how well the vaccination protects against severe Omicron courses "The data confirm that the development of a vaccine adapted to Omicron makes sense," continues Ciesek. However, the data she has now published could not say anything about whether the vaccination continues to protect against a severe course. The reason: It is not only the antibodies examined that are relevant, but also other parts of the immune system such as the so-called T cells. In addition, the results that have now been published are based on so-called neutralization tests. It looks at how many antibodies a vaccinated person has in the blood that can reach the virus variant and thus switch it off. The actual protection of vaccinated persons cannot be determined in this way. This requires clinical studies with thousands of test subjects or evaluations of the ongoing infection process.



Drosten: "Doesn't look good for people who have been vaccinated twice" Nevertheless, Christian Drosten also expressed concern about the new data via Twitter. "Now we have three groups with approximately 40-fold loss of serum neutralization activity in fully immunized individuals," he wrote. "Doesn't look good for a double vaccine," he concluded. A third dose is necessary. In a second tweet, Drosten made it clear again that a neutralization activity does not mean that the vaccination is 40 times less protective. "The real loss of immunity is much lower," explains Drosten. At the moment, therefore, triple vaccination is the best protection. Hence his urgent recommendation: "Don't wait, but boost."

[Rockstar]

[Jimbuna]

Existing vaccines should still protect people who contract the Omicron variant from severe Covid cases, a World Health Organization (WHO) official says.

It comes as the first lab tests of the new variant in South Africa suggest it can partially evade the Pfizer jab.

Researchers say there was a "very large drop" in how well the vaccine's antibodies neutralised the new strain.

But the WHO's Dr Mike Ryan said there was no sign Omicron would be better at evading vaccines than other variants.

"We have highly effective vaccines that have proved effective against all the variants so far, in terms of severe disease and hospitalisation, and there's no reason to expect that it wouldn't be so" for Omicron, Dr Ryan, the WHO's emergencies director, told AFP news agency.

He said initial data suggested Omicron did not make people sicker than the Delta and other strains. "If anything, the direction is towards less severity," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-59573037