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Old 09-29-16, 05:16 AM   #2026
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Meanwhile India claims to have carried out surgical strikes across the Line of Control in Kashmir targetting Islamic extremists, Pakistan has denied that such attacks actually took place and warns of consequences if they actually do. The closing of the border ceremony at Waggah has been called off and the Indian stock exchange crashed 150 points.
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Old 09-29-16, 05:48 AM   #2027
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Meanwhile India claims to have carried out surgical strikes across the Line of Control in Kashmir targetting Islamic extremists, Pakistan has denied that such attacks actually took place and warns of consequences if they actually do. The closing of the border ceremony at Waggah has been called off and the Indian stock exchange crashed 150 points.
*checks calendar*

Yep..it's thursday alright.
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Old 09-29-16, 06:12 AM   #2028
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*checks calendar*

Yep..it's thursday alright.
Nonsense, there'd have been a shooting in the US if it was.
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Old 09-29-16, 06:51 AM   #2029
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Meanwhile, the US tells Russia it will end talks if bombing continues.

I can't see that having much of an impact.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-37497220
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Old 09-29-16, 09:58 AM   #2030
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so..how about a good news story for once...

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Syrian refugee comes to the rescue of Canadian bride's wedding dress
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-wedding-dress
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Old 09-29-16, 10:15 AM   #2031
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Nonsense, there'd have been a shooting in the US if it was.
There are shootings everyday in the US, most are gang related inner city violence that never make the news. The media only care about the rare mass shootings that they can use to push their anti-gun agenda. I live in a more rural area where there's some type of firearm in almost every household, often more than one. The only shootings that happen around here are 99.9% accidents and even those are rare.
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Old 09-29-16, 01:06 PM   #2032
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Been thinking, after have read some of the comments in this thread and watching the Danish news

I came to the conclusion that we, the citizens have two choices

1. Close down on every news coming from Aleppo/Syria
or if this is impossible
2. Say - so what, why should I care, when watching the news from that area

´cause they will keep on bombing and killing-until they have reached their goal. All form for sanction seems useless and none of us is really interested in a conflict between USA/NATO and Russia/Syria

So pick your number. 1 or 2.

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Old 09-29-16, 02:07 PM   #2033
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Been thinking, after have read some of the comments in this thread and watching the Danish news

I came to the conclusion that we, the citizens have two choices

1. Close down on every news coming from Aleppo/Syria
or if this is impossible
2. Say - so what, why should I care, when watching the news from that area

´cause they will keep on bombing and killing-until they have reached their goal. All form for sanction seems useless and none of us is really interested in a conflict between USA/NATO and Russia/Syria

So pick your number. 1 or 2.

Markus
I think number 2 is how most people are doing it.
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Old 09-29-16, 03:11 PM   #2034
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Speaking of a different kind of Terror today is the 75th anniversary of the massacre of Babi Yar where German forces shot 33,771 Jewish people over the course of two days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
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Old 09-29-16, 08:20 PM   #2035
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Been thinking, after have read some of the comments in this thread and watching the Danish news

I came to the conclusion that we, the citizens have two choices

1. Close down on every news coming from Aleppo/Syria
or if this is impossible
2. Say - so what, why should I care, when watching the news from that area

´cause they will keep on bombing and killing-until they have reached their goal. All form for sanction seems useless and none of us is really interested in a conflict between USA/NATO and Russia/Syria

So pick your number. 1 or 2.
2, without remorse.

To look away, is a valid and moral (!) option. Because:

If you use the situation in any drama like this to propagate absolute morals, not only do you reserve the right to demand total control over the public's and politian's and individual's actions and reactions regarding this drama, but as I read an argument yesterday: you ironically also destroy moral itself. Because a moral value system in the rank of an absolute while dealing with an always imperfect, never perfect world, necessarily must fail to live up to it standards. It will always fail, and it will render itself as useless, void and pointless because it then needs to realise its own irrelevance and imperfection - while still claim absolute status for itself. "Imperfect" and "absolute" do not go well together.

I hate it that it was an extremely left-leaning writer - with whom I have many quarrels - pointing this out, but he nailed my own thinking completely there. My own reaction, when they try to replace reason and argument with photos of big sad children's faces with tears in their eyes, always is very cold, and emotionally underwhelmed. I simply refuse to allow others to emotionally manipulate me, to turn my morals against me to blackmail me into agreement with them, and to bypass my reason and intellect on the grounds of suggestive media language and confused sentiments. And I take it personal that the other is even trying to trick me like this.

I reserve the right to reject all this, and to look away, unimpressed. I also refuse to feel bad for that, to excuse for that, and I even claim my position to be that of healthier morality. And as a matter of fact: I also do not feel bad for looking awqay even if I would ignore and would have no clue of all the intellctual thoughts above. I just see myself not feeling urged to react to this input, naturally and by my inner nature: it is no stimulus that turns a trigger in me. I also do not like the taste of ananas, no matter how hard I would try - I just can't stand ananas.
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Old 09-30-16, 10:18 AM   #2036
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Speaking of a different kind of Terror today is the 75th anniversary of the massacre of Babi Yar where German forces shot 33,771 Jewish people over the course of two days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
Edited my initial figure of 3,700

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Old 09-30-16, 11:44 AM   #2037
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Speaking of a different kind of Terror today is the 75th anniversary of the massacre of Babi Yar where German forces shot 33,771 Jewish people over the course of two days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
Only that politicians who have success and are not being convicted, would call this cynically "ethnical cleansing", and probably get away with it.
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Old 09-30-16, 04:55 PM   #2038
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Speaking of a different kind of Terror today is the 75th anniversary of the massacre of Babi Yar where German forces shot 33,771 Jewish people over the course of two days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
Hitler and what happened in WWII pales in comparision to what the British Empire did in India, China, North America, Kenya, Malaya, Tasmania, North America, Australia, South Africa just to name a few.

Heck reading history books from the losing side perspective I found that under British rule from 1757-1947 1.8 billion died from slavery, starvation, execution etc etc just in India alone.
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Old 09-30-16, 05:02 PM   #2039
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[citation needed]
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Old 10-01-16, 08:30 AM   #2040
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This. 1.8 billion dead divided into 190 years is little under 9.5 million per year. Sounds quite high to me.
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