UFOs: finally we can accept them as myth and hoax? - Page 3

Jeff-Groves · 09-12-19, 06:38 PM

All postulations are base on the sciences We know and understand to this date.
There is no way in hades We have answers to questions we still have.
Just the proof that a time crystal can be constructed opens the door to what was closed to us just a few years ago.

Yes I believe there is intelligent life out there. I also believe some are way more advanced then We are.
Have they visited Earth? Those would be the less intelligent.
Probably escaped from a looney bin planet.
I mean really. Who the heck else would fly light years across the Universe to crash into Roswell, New Mexico!
There's not a damned thing there! I know! I just went through there a few weeks ago!
(Proving there may be a lack of intelligent life on Earth also!)

vienna · 09-12-19, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

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I mean really. Who the heck else would fly light years across the Universe to crash into Roswell, New Mexico!
There's not a damned thing there! I know! I just went through there a few weeks ago!

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Aha! We knew it! Proof of extraterrestrial visitation form the source!...

...and how long are you assigned to our planet?...

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Jeff-Groves · 09-12-19, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

Aha! We knew it! Proof of extraterrestrial visitation form the source!...

...and how long are you assigned to our planet?...

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DAMN IT! You weren't suppose to figure that out!

Aktungbby · 09-12-19, 08:02 PM

we won't discuss the 'second coming' at Sacramento then!

vienna · 09-12-19, 09:29 PM

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Mr Quatro · 09-12-19, 09:31 PM

Takes one to know one vienna

Rockstar · 09-12-19, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

All postulations are base on the sciences We know and understand to this date.
There is no way in hades We have answers to questions we still have.
Just the proof that a time crystal can be constructed opens the door to what was closed to us just a few years ago.

I dont think time crystals allow for any life form to defy time nor do they break or upend any universal physical laws. The time it takes to travel through space is gonna play a huge part in how far any living creature can go before they expire. If they are super smart and developed the means to harness the incredible amount of energy to travel at light speed and doing so without every atom of their body disintegrating into a gazillion pieces I suppose they might stand a chance of getting here.

u crank · 09-12-19, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Time and Space make it hard.

And technology. And those are the reasons that I personally don't believe that humans will ever leave our solar system. And that alien life forms from beyond our solar system have or ever will come here.

That doesn't mean I don't think that intellegent life doesn't exist elsewhere in the universe. It's biologically possible. It is also foreseeable that humans will explore our galaxy by other means. Artificial intelligence combined with robotics for example.

But time and distance and the laws of physics are all against a biological being travelling in space. One can only assume that other possible biological life forms would have the same laws of physics as we do. And the same problems.

The Cylons on the other hand ...

Rockstar · 09-12-19, 11:20 PM

There is spooky action at a distance which could prove were just meat puppets controlled by alien overlords in another galaxy.

Catfish · 09-13-19, 01:26 AM

Anyone read "Children of time" ? ^;;^

STEED · 09-13-19, 05:51 AM

Not all Alien Monsters come from outer space, this one was created on Earth!

THE POLYMORPH

Rockstar · 09-13-19, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Anyone read "Children of time" ? ^;;^

Nope, but I've read From Where Comes The Universe by Dennis Morris. The ending was awesome.

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Philosophers always have the last word.

The philosophically fascinating aspect of all the above is that we have deduced the whole of our classical universe, and hope to eventually deduce the whole quantum universe, from nothing more than real numbers and finite groups. In fact, the finite groups are very easily deduced as nothing more than permutations of different whole real numbers.

Further, as shown by Bertrand Russel a century ago, all real numbers can be deduced from nothing more than the number 1. In short, if the number 1 exists, then the universe exists. Indeed, the whole universe is nothing more than the solitary number 1.

Note: It does not have to be the number one. Any whole number will suffice, including the number 42.

It appears Douglas Adams was right

Jeff-Groves · 09-13-19, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vienna

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Jimbuna figured it out long ago.

Jimbuna · 09-13-19, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff-Groves

Jimbuna figured it out long ago.

Skybird · 09-13-19, 02:28 PM

Mind and space. Inside and outside. Both an abyss/void. Can there be two kinds of an abyss/void? Two kinds of nothingness? I don't think so.

That opens paths for speculation...

For example my own supergenius invention, this formula: t=f(m)

Where t=time, and m=mind. Sometimes I think we got the idea of space travelling completely wrong so far. And that I do not mean as a joke.

The limiting facvtor so far always is the biological hull of ours. And I imagine not one but two ways to work around that: replacing the biological hull as carrier oif "mind" with a technological hull and thus bypassing the vulnerability of biology (means: robots/androids), or by moving the mind from A to B directly, bypassing the need of a hull alltogether.

I cannot see homo sapiens reaching any of these two scenarios, however.

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Jeff-Groves Village Idiot Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,319 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	All postulations are base on the sciences We know and understand to this date. There is no way in hades We have answers to questions we still have. Just the proof that a time crystal can be constructed opens the door to what was closed to us just a few years ago. Yes I believe there is intelligent life out there. I also believe some are way more advanced then We are. Have they visited Earth? Those would be the less intelligent. Probably escaped from a looney bin planet. I mean really. Who the heck else would fly light years across the Universe to crash into Roswell, New Mexico! There's not a damned thing there! I know! I just went through there a few weeks ago! (Proving there may be a lack of intelligent life on Earth also!) __________________ I don't do Stupid. So don't ask. Last edited by Jeff-Groves; 09-12-19 at 06:46 PM.

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,456 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Mind and space. Inside and outside. Both an abyss/void. Can there be two kinds of an abyss/void? Two kinds of nothingness? I don't think so. That opens paths for speculation... For example my own supergenius invention, this formula: t=f(m) Where t=time, and m=mind. Sometimes I think we got the idea of space travelling completely wrong so far. And that I do not mean as a joke. The limiting facvtor so far always is the biological hull of ours. And I imagine not one but two ways to work around that: replacing the biological hull as carrier oif "mind" with a technological hull and thus bypassing the vulnerability of biology (means: robots/androids), or by moving the mind from A to B directly, bypassing the need of a hull alltogether. I cannot see homo sapiens reaching any of these two scenarios, however. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.