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Old 12-14-2019, 06:28 PM   #12136
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On the upside there will be no more.....

'Oh, Jeremy Corbyn!'  chant...

That really bleeped me off hearing that cringe dire tripe.


Moving on to the results here in my seat it seems there are very few of us who saw what the mainstream party's have become, only 130 odd voters voted independent . I can say I did not vote for liars and BS of those mainstream party's and all those lies they told. I congratulate all those whom voted Independent.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:28 AM   #12137
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Wigan MP Lisa Nandy says she is "seriously thinking" about running to be Labour leader.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:35 AM   #12138
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I've been saying ever since Jeremy Corbyn was voted in as leader of the Labour party that he's not electable in this country, I had a grim satisfaction watching the social media posts of friends who were so deep in their echo chamber that they actually thought there was a chance of him becoming PM. Anyone who has spoken to people should have known the result was inevitable.
Pretty similar to how I saw it.

I was a party member for over two decades, voting for Andy Burnham as the replacement for Ed Miliband and Tom Watson as deputy leader.

I resigned the day after Corbyn was elected for all the usual reasons regarding his beliefs and sympathies that have previously been adequately recognised all over the country.

Thus far I have never voted Tory but anything has to be better than Corbyn/Steptoe.
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:42 AM   #12139
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Boris Johnson’s adviser Dominic Cummings would have challenged the EU referendum result as “invalid” had Vote Leave lost the Brexit campaign.

According to documents seen by the Observer, the prime minister’s chief aide told the UK’s data watchdog that he would have contested the result because UK elections are “wide open to abuse.”

In an email sent in 2017 to the information commissioner’s office, Cummings, the former head of the Vote Leave campaign and architect of Johnson’s stunning election victory, said: “If we had lost by a small margin I would have sought to challenge the result as invalid.”

The UK voted to leave the EU by the slim majority of 52% to 48% in the 2016 referendum, with many Brexiters subsequently attacking the losers as “Remoaners” who refused to respect democracy. On Friday, Cummings openly criticised “educated Remainer campaigner types” for failing to understand the country and “driving everyone mad”.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...id=mailsignout
As if we've not already experienced enough turmoil.

This could have went on and in if the election result hadn't been so decisive.
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Old 12-15-2019, 07:15 AM   #12140
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Wigan MP Lisa Nandy says she is "seriously thinking" about running to be Labour leader.
The rumoured front runner is....

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Old 12-15-2019, 08:36 AM   #12141
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^ Probably what I'm thinking also, especially as she is a female or so it is rumoured
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Old 12-15-2019, 09:35 AM   #12142
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Pity the SNP have done so well up here () but getting rid of Swinson is something of a silver lining.

Now, the big question for the Tories is how to counteract the SNP within Scotland itself. This boils down to one big question, which, if they find an answer, will go a long way to solving the problems they have north of the border:

How do you fix a problem like Glasgow?

Glasgow is the main trouble spot for them - 41% of Scotland's population lives there and in the surrounding constituencies along the Clyde Valley.

The Central Belt as a whole contains 71% percent of the Scottish population.

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Old 12-15-2019, 10:31 AM   #12143
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Scotland "cannot be imprisoned in the union against its will" by the UK government, Nicola Sturgeon has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50799613
Sturgeon is going to milk this for all it is worth.
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Have another question. This time it's related to Scotland.

Which type of benefit does Scotland have today as a indirectly member of EU(As a part of the UK)?

What are Scotland hoping to gain by being independent and a member of EU ?

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Old 12-15-2019, 12:51 PM   #12145
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What are Scotland hoping to gain by being independent and a member of EU ?

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In brief: getting more money from the EU than they have to pay in. Also, they are export-heavy to the EU, a leave from the EU market will hit them.

The history between the English and the Scots is such that Scotland also is quite different from England. They never saw themselves that much as part of a union with the English, more as a victim, dominated by the nEnglish. Historically at least, in the past, that is true. Just a few days ago there was somewhere a good editorial on that in a German newspaper explaining it.

But in the end, its about the money.
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One of the very very few that did not go mad following the bandwagon of loons.

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^The Labour party had their best candidate before she lost her seat and that was Caroline Flint, it wouldn't be that daft of an idea to have Dan Jarvis as her deputy either. Make Flint a dame in the dissolution honours list and let her run the party from the House of Lords, and then she can appeal to the Labour voters to have that Momentum menace and any left winger MP booted out of the party.

As for those two clowns Richard Burgon and Rebecca Long Bailey, I think that the pair of them had a personality bypass operation at birth and, Rebeccas' best described as Momentum and Corbyns' Barbie doll pin up.
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I agree Caroline Flint would have been their best and probably only candidate worth voting for a leader of the labour party.


Another rumour in Jess Phillips could be standing....
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Who will be Labour's next leader?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50781341

Is that possibly the best they have. Please tell me this is a dream.

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^ Probably what I'm thinking also, especially as she is a female or so it is rumoured
Yes looks like she has a set!!
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