T34 vs Tiger- Kursk 1943 coming soon! - Page 71

frinik · 05-14-10, 05:29 AM

Lc my own favourite is Kurt Knispel the greatest of all Bolschevik panzerknackers, 168 certified kills and may be as many as 192...Died barely 2 weeks before war´s end at the age of 24....

In honour of his memory

Lc, Please don´t mention anything about Morty enjoying female tankers in case Mrs. Panzer Commander reads the posts.Otherwise he´ll be grounded and punished.No computer, no games for at least 2 weeks....

Cheers

woofiedog · 05-15-10, 01:31 AM

Will be patiently awaiting news from the front about the up coming German Mission 4.

Lt. Aleksandra Samusenko

http://www.exter-company.com/en/HY35...commander.html

LcSummers · 05-15-10, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frinik

Lc my own favourite is Kurt Knispel the greatest of all Bolschevik panzerknackers, 168 certified kills and may be as many as 192...Died barely 2 weeks before war´s end at the age of 24....

In honour of his memory

Lc, Please don´t mention anything about Morty enjoying female tankers in case Mrs. Panzer Commander reads the posts.Otherwise he´ll be grounded and punished.No computer, no games for at least 2 weeks....

Cheers

Hi frinic,

you are right i will be quiet and never mention morty with female tankers. He is getting in trouble with Mrs Panzercommander

I do not have a special German tanker.

I like Knipsel cause of his incredable kills.
I like Carius because he survived the war opend a pharmacy and was a Commander of a Jagdtiger. That vehicle is an exotic, i know every vehicle had its advantages and disatvantages but this one was rare. Only 88 were build.
I like M. Wittman cause he was born 25 Km from were i am living.

Cheers

LC

ZeeWolf · 05-15-10, 03:00 PM

Well guys I kind over-worked myself over the past few weeks and I had
to ease up until my batteries were recharged and racks re-loaded etc.
German mission 4 is in the last stages of completion and it is priority.
When you play it you will see why - it is ferocious.

GM4:
You have been ordered to cover the withdraw and link-up with our forces
who are holding the road northeast of us. While there is only a few more
Kilometers to go we will have to engage the Red Army force from the north
in there attempt to cut us off from our Kamrads.

Vorwards!

ZW

morttheslayer · 05-15-10, 04:09 PM

Lc & Frinic
I don't "enjoy" female Tank ladies especially if they are firing at me but if any care to surrender and they happen to look as good as Woofiedog's photo - then I could be persuaded to be lenient.

It's a very pleasant change to see a Russian Lady that doesn't resemble a Yeti. --- Mind you I don't get out much!!

Zee don't overdo it I'm relying on you to answer all my dork questions

All the Best - Mort

ZeeWolf · 05-15-10, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morttheslayer

Lc & Frinic
I don't "enjoy" female Tank ladies especially if they are firing at me but if any care to surrender and they happen to look as good as Woofiedog's photo - then I could be persuaded to be lenient.

It's a very pleasant change to see a Russian Lady that doesn't resemble a Yeti. --- Mind you I don't get out much!!

Zee don't overdo it I'm relying on you to answer all my dork questions

All the Best - Mort

A Yeti is called BIG feet over here in the "Great Northwest"

no relation to the BIG Bottom though

ZW

frinik · 05-15-10, 09:51 PM

Zee take it eaZee!Last thing we want is for your to be sent to a sanatorium in the Hartz mountains for shell shocked veterans while the front is crumbling all around us.We need our ZugFuehrer to lead us to final victory over the low FPS and assorted glitches and bugs that the enemy is sure to plant in the game!!!!

Zum Zeeg mith Wolf!

Zee I believe Bigfoot is also known by its Amerindian name Sasquash or something like that.Incidentally in Europe the Yeti is also a pretty preppy SUV made by VW/Skoda....

Speaking of feats I remember reading the exploit of Karl Koerner who around 24th April 1945 near Marsdorf in the Berlin area happened to stumble upon a couple of Soviet tank brigades ,120 to 140 tanks,refuellingin a village.He was commanding a Tiger II and only had one wingman with him.Without hesitation they attacked them.He first took out 11 JS2s which were on the road and destroyed them then turned their attention to the rst.They created a real panic when they hit fuel trucks which exploded scattering Soviet tanks and crews.He exhausted all his ammo and personally accounted for 39 tanks.His wingman accounted for another 26!!!!This barely 2 1/2 weeks before the end of the war.He was decorated with the Knights Cross on the 28th in Berlin and was the last one to receive it.He survived the war and became a dental technician.He had a score of 100 tanks which he managed in only 3 months.Had he been accompanied by another 3 to 4 tanks they could have completely wiped out the 2 brigades.

Incidentally when I read stories like this I just wonder how could they manage to obtain fuel and ammo considering how chaotic and disrupted Germany was in the last 6 weeks of the war?

LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning

You'f want to surrender to them

Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus.

Cheers Kameraden

ZeeWolf · 05-15-10, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frinik

Zee take it eaZee!Last thing we want is for your to be sent to a sanatorium in the Hartz mountains for shell shocked veterans while the front is crumbling all around us.We need our ZugFuehrer to lead us to final victory over the low FPS and assorted glitches and bugs that the enemy is sure to plant in the game!!!!

Zum Zeeg mith Wolf!

Zee I believe Bigfoot is also known by its Amerindian name Sasquash or something like that.Incidentally in Europe the Yeti is also a pretty preppy SUV made by VW/Skoda....

Speaking of feats I remember reading the exploit of Karl Koerner who around 24th April 1945 near Marsdorf in the Berlin area happened to stumble upon a couple of Soviet tank brigades ,120 to 140 tanks,refuellingin a village.He was commanding a Tiger II and only had one wingman with him.Without hesitation they attacked them.He first took out 11 JS2s which were on the road and destroyed them then turned their attention to the rst.They created a real panic when they hit fuel trucks which exploded scattering Soviet tanks and crews.He exhausted all his ammo and personally accounted for 39 tanks.His wingman accounted for another 26!!!!This barely 2 1/2 weeks before the end of the war.He was decorated with the Knights Cross on the 28th in Berlin and was the last one to receive it.He survived the war and became a dental technician.He had a score of 100 tanks which he managed in only 3 months.Had he been accompanied by another 3 to 4 tanks they could have completely wiped out the 2 brigades.

Incidentally when I read stories like this I just wonder how could they manage to obtain fuel and ammo considering how chaotic and disrupted Germany was in the last 6 weeks of the war?

LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning

You'f want to surrender to them

Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus.

Cheers Kameraden

Your ZugFuehrer will report to the front in the new German mission 4 battle ready.

Meanwhile the young guys can look forward to their fifties, it's where amazing things start to happen. Like women who you thought looked kinda like Sasquash start to look pretty good. But frinik I have to agree - those Russian gals are BEAUTIFUL! and sweet as honey too.
And yes your Karl Koerner story is another account that is amazing. The bombing of Germany in the last few months of the war was an act of wanton death and destruction designed as a "Red Carpet" for the Morguenthou Plan. Witch to this day the former allies of the Soviet Union deny ever being implemented. So determined were the Red Armies allies in the killing as many Germans the original scientists in the US who worked on the A-bomb was hoping for their invention to be used on the Fatherland.
So along with all those merciless fire bombings on the women and children of Germany they wanted the A-Bomb to be their "Cherry on top"
so-to-speak. And yet the men of Germany fought on.

Sometimes I become discouraged and think it will take a thousand years for the truth to come out. But I take courage from the fact that it is the truth that will stand forever not lies.

Vorwärts Kameraden!

ZW

LcSummers · 05-16-10, 12:33 AM

Hi Frinic,

Quote:LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning

You'f want to surrender to them

Thats true what you are writing but i prefer Hungarian women because my wife s from Hungary. I know that very well.

Quote:Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus.

The same was with the Königstiger (i like that monster very much), too much fuel consumtion, troubles with the road wheels and gearbox etc. So the Köti had the same problems, i mentioned that i wouldnt point on the advantages and disadvantages of the tanks ( i know them very well) but i like the JT with all of its disadvantages and today you can find only 3 examples of them. When reading the stories of the 653rd and 512th s.Pz.Jg.Abt. the JTs were feared to the end of the war by American forces. The JT was mainly used on the WF.I saw a video when some JTs surrenderd at Iserlohn. It is really a superb video.

So as ZW knows i like tanks/destroyers (like the Jagdpanther späte Ausf.) in the last stages of WWII (1944-1945). Not only German, Allied tanks too.

BTW frinic, you know very much, so if i have a question may i relay on you?

Thanks

LC

LcSummers · 05-16-10, 12:40 AM

ZW,

take care, do not think that we could not wait for a release. As i said once, easy, we have enough time and when you need some RR then do it.

After my accident i needed that too. So dont hesitate and take your time. With a fresh mind you can start things better you see options were you did not realized it. This is my opinion and many of us, included me do understand that.

Slowly but surley ZW

LC

frinik · 05-16-10, 01:48 AM

Lc please go ahead with your question I´ll be pleased to answer it to the best of my abilities.

Your wife is Hungarian? Good solid allies of Germany in both World Wars.Still very close to Germany and Austria.

Zee it´s true that the carpet bombings of the last few months of the war were useless and unjustified howver to the credit of the Americans it was the British led by the infamous Bomber Harris who with their night raids did most of the damage to the civilian populaiton.The Americans focussed on dau , precise( relatively) bombings against industrial and logistical targets and they really ground German industrial capacity and transportation to a halt. Amongst the cause ofr German defeat along with Hitler´s attack on the Soviet Union and distrastrous war leadership the US precision bombings as well as their industrial might really won the war for the allies.They systematically deprived Germany of synthetic fuel, ball bearings, railway transportation and choked the war effort. Without their bombings Germany might have lasted another year or two.The Soviet manpower was as well a major cause of defeat bleeding Germany of its manpower and war material....British contribution was secondary but important.However it must be said tha Germany started the ball with the irresponsible bombings of Amsterdam and England in 1940-41.No matter what the A bomb scientists (many were Jews and had no reasons to feel any kindness for Nazi Germany) would have wanted the US gov would not have used the A Bomb against Germany.For various reasons, racial( it´s one thing against Japanese Asians whom they really hated), the risk of atomic contamination of POWs and slabe labour and friendly neighbouring countries but also because they knew the Germans had hiuge stocklpile of lethal poisons gas , sarin, tabun etc which the German could have effectively used in retaliation with V1s or V2s against the UK or US forces in Europe causing huge casualties. The Allies knew about thta threat and took it seriously..Not to forget that 1 in very 4 American has German or Austrian roots.

Germans are no quitters, its part of the history of Germany to be clobbered(Roman occupation,the black plague, the wars of reformaiton, the peasant wars, the 30 years war( 1-3 of German population died. The Rheinland had to be repopulated by Swiss German settlers) the French wars of the XVII and XVIII th centuries, Napoleonic invasion,both World wars etc have thought the Germans to be tenacious. I know it because I have German( Prussian) blood and I don´t give up easily and never without a tough fight

.Adversity breeds toughness!

Lc I saw the doc about the surrender of the Jagdtigers in Iserlohn on you tube it looked like a family reunion more than a surrender!Civilians were lining up and waiving at the panzer crews and the Americans looked relaxed more like a friendly gathering than a formal surrender.Still I manitain that the Jagdtiger was a very unwise vehicle for a country fighting with fuel and ammo shortages, logistical disruptions, lack of experienced crews, numerical disavantages and absolutely no air support on the contrary ....I´d be curious to see how many tanks did they destroy?

Cheers

LcSummers · 05-16-10, 10:09 AM

Hi Frinic so my first question.

I know it is not about Kursk battle but i am interested in the Puma Sd.Kfz 234/2 with 50mm Pak. Can you tell me wich SS Unit used them and in the Ardennes do you can "show" me what kind of markings esp. Turmnummer they used?

Were some of them used in the Kursk battle too?

Thanx a lot for your help

LC

woofiedog · 05-16-10, 01:24 PM

The web site may help you out with the unit markings.

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Menu.htm

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer...rigade%201.htm

101 units of the 234/2 produced were distributed as follows:
-Panzer Lehr Div. (1 Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 130): 25 units. Painted in dark yellow and without numerals or crosses.
- 2 PzDiv (1.Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 2): 25 units. Some of its vehicles seem painted dark yellow without any marking (not even license plates) but a small trident and the Aufklärungs insignia, both on the front of the hull, at the left. Others, like the well knwon 111 carried 3 tone camo, crosses and numerals.
- 1 SSPzDiv (SSPzAufkAbt 1): 16 units. painted in dark yellow with camo, probably 3 tone. They also carried crosses and numerals (3 digits)
- 20 PzDiv ( PzAufkAbt 20): 16 units. There is a photo of a Puma white washed, in Silesia.
- 7 PzDiv (1Kompanie/ PzAufkAbt 7): 6 units
- 13 PzDiv: not known.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules...=147179&page=1

http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogs...spahwagen.html

Dung_Beetle · 05-17-10, 02:56 AM

Hi All,

I haven't played a tank sim since Panzer Elite Special Edition; except, for the buggy T72 Balkans on Fire. I was really looking forward to T34 vs. Tiger, but read the reviews, and didn't want to buy another unfinished sim.

I have a high-end system, and am enjoying Flaming Cliffs 2.0. Great Upgrade! Well worth the money! http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1671&scr=default

However, I am a tanker at heart.

I need a good tank sim. I just want to know if this is this worth buying. Will it work for my system?

I don't have T34 vs. Tiger. I would have to buy it, and then donate to the honorable and hardworking mod community.

I don't have a lot of money to throw around these days, but as I said I need a good tank sim. Steel Beasts graphics just don't do it for me. Plus, I like WWII tanks.

Here are my specs:

Asus P6T7
Gigabyte 3 x GTX 285
Creative Fatality 1 Titanium Champion Series
Intel 920 OC @ 3.7 (air cooled)
LG W3000h monitor
Corsair Dominator 1600 12 GB kit

I would appreciate any advice for someone who wants a great tank sim, but doesn't want an, expensive, unfinished project that might not work well.

I respect the work being done here, and would gladly spend money for a finished working sim of this genre. I’ve read through the posts, but would like specific advice relating to my system. Plus, I’m hoping for any new input that might encourage me to purchase this product and support the community.

Gentleman! - Your advice! - Please!

Dung_Beetle
!

Chucky · 05-17-10, 04:39 AM

Welcome to the forum Dung_Beetle

I think that with 3 x GTX 285's you maybe won't have a problem running it?
I only have 1 and have seen good frame rates.

Seeing as Lighthouse have gone under,there is always the chance to pick it up very cheaply,thereby keeping costs down.ZeeWolf's mod isn't the cheapest I have ever seen,about the price of an average game maybe,but the guy is making improvements to a tank sim that it seems a lot of people want.

Steel Fury didn't do it for me,I have Steel Beasts Pro PE but the graphics are too simple,although for realism it can't be beaten.

I've said this before,and apart from one video on Youtube,we need some footage of Kursk! I always find that some decent footage of a game I want will always have me reaching for my wallet!

05-14-10, 05:29 AM	#1051
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mortyfication or Mortyrised? Lc my own favourite is Kurt Knispel the greatest of all Bolschevik panzerknackers, 168 certified kills and may be as many as 192...Died barely 2 weeks before war´s end at the age of 24.... In honour of his memory Lc, Please don´t mention anything about Morty enjoying female tankers in case Mrs. Panzer Commander reads the posts.Otherwise he´ll be grounded and punished.No computer, no games for at least 2 weeks.... Cheers

05-15-10, 01:31 AM	#1052
woofiedog Engineer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New England Posts: 216 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Will be patiently awaiting news from the front about the up coming German Mission 4. Lt. Aleksandra Samusenko http://www.exter-company.com/en/HY35...commander.html __________________

05-15-10, 04:09 PM	#1055
morttheslayer Soundman Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SW England UK Posts: 146 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Russian Tank Ladies Lc & Frinic I don't "enjoy" female Tank ladies especially if they are firing at me but if any care to surrender and they happen to look as good as Woofiedog's photo - then I could be persuaded to be lenient. It's a very pleasant change to see a Russian Lady that doesn't resemble a Yeti. --- Mind you I don't get out much!! Zee don't overdo it I'm relying on you to answer all my dork questions All the Best - Mort

05-16-10, 12:40 AM	#1060
LcSummers XO Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 431 Downloads: 341 Uploads: 0	Hello ZW ZW, take care, do not think that we could not wait for a release. As i said once, easy, we have enough time and when you need some RR then do it. After my accident i needed that too. So dont hesitate and take your time. With a fresh mind you can start things better you see options were you did not realized it. This is my opinion and many of us, included me do understand that. Slowly but surley ZW LC

05-16-10, 01:48 AM	#1061
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Lc please go ahead with your question I´ll be pleased to answer it to the best of my abilities. Your wife is Hungarian? Good solid allies of Germany in both World Wars.Still very close to Germany and Austria. Zee it´s true that the carpet bombings of the last few months of the war were useless and unjustified howver to the credit of the Americans it was the British led by the infamous Bomber Harris who with their night raids did most of the damage to the civilian populaiton.The Americans focussed on dau , precise( relatively) bombings against industrial and logistical targets and they really ground German industrial capacity and transportation to a halt. Amongst the cause ofr German defeat along with Hitler´s attack on the Soviet Union and distrastrous war leadership the US precision bombings as well as their industrial might really won the war for the allies.They systematically deprived Germany of synthetic fuel, ball bearings, railway transportation and choked the war effort. Without their bombings Germany might have lasted another year or two.The Soviet manpower was as well a major cause of defeat bleeding Germany of its manpower and war material....British contribution was secondary but important.However it must be said tha Germany started the ball with the irresponsible bombings of Amsterdam and England in 1940-41.No matter what the A bomb scientists (many were Jews and had no reasons to feel any kindness for Nazi Germany) would have wanted the US gov would not have used the A Bomb against Germany.For various reasons, racial( it´s one thing against Japanese Asians whom they really hated), the risk of atomic contamination of POWs and slabe labour and friendly neighbouring countries but also because they knew the Germans had hiuge stocklpile of lethal poisons gas , sarin, tabun etc which the German could have effectively used in retaliation with V1s or V2s against the UK or US forces in Europe causing huge casualties. The Allies knew about thta threat and took it seriously..Not to forget that 1 in very 4 American has German or Austrian roots. Germans are no quitters, its part of the history of Germany to be clobbered(Roman occupation,the black plague, the wars of reformaiton, the peasant wars, the 30 years war( 1-3 of German population died. The Rheinland had to be repopulated by Swiss German settlers) the French wars of the XVII and XVIII th centuries, Napoleonic invasion,both World wars etc have thought the Germans to be tenacious. I know it because I have German( Prussian) blood and I don´t give up easily and never without a tough fight.Adversity breeds toughness! Lc I saw the doc about the surrender of the Jagdtigers in Iserlohn on you tube it looked like a family reunion more than a surrender!Civilians were lining up and waiving at the panzer crews and the Americans looked relaxed more like a friendly gathering than a formal surrender.Still I manitain that the Jagdtiger was a very unwise vehicle for a country fighting with fuel and ammo shortages, logistical disruptions, lack of experienced crews, numerical disavantages and absolutely no air support on the contrary ....I´d be curious to see how many tanks did they destroy? Cheers

05-15-10, 03:00 PM	#1054
ZeeWolf Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 1,724 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 1	Well guys I kind over-worked myself over the past few weeks and I had to ease up until my batteries were recharged and racks re-loaded etc. German mission 4 is in the last stages of completion and it is priority. When you play it you will see why - it is ferocious. GM4: You have been ordered to cover the withdraw and link-up with our forces who are holding the road northeast of us. While there is only a few more Kilometers to go we will have to engage the Red Army force from the north in there attempt to cut us off from our Kamrads. Vorwards! ZW

05-15-10, 09:51 PM	#1057
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Zee take it eaZee!Last thing we want is for your to be sent to a sanatorium in the Hartz mountains for shell shocked veterans while the front is crumbling all around us.We need our ZugFuehrer to lead us to final victory over the low FPS and assorted glitches and bugs that the enemy is sure to plant in the game!!!! Zum Zeeg mith Wolf! Zee I believe Bigfoot is also known by its Amerindian name Sasquash or something like that.Incidentally in Europe the Yeti is also a pretty preppy SUV made by VW/Skoda.... Speaking of feats I remember reading the exploit of Karl Koerner who around 24th April 1945 near Marsdorf in the Berlin area happened to stumble upon a couple of Soviet tank brigades ,120 to 140 tanks,refuellingin a village.He was commanding a Tiger II and only had one wingman with him.Without hesitation they attacked them.He first took out 11 JS2s which were on the road and destroyed them then turned their attention to the rst.They created a real panic when they hit fuel trucks which exploded scattering Soviet tanks and crews.He exhausted all his ammo and personally accounted for 39 tanks.His wingman accounted for another 26!!!!This barely 2 1/2 weeks before the end of the war.He was decorated with the Knights Cross on the 28th in Berlin and was the last one to receive it.He survived the war and became a dental technician.He had a score of 100 tanks which he managed in only 3 months.Had he been accompanied by another 3 to 4 tanks they could have completely wiped out the 2 brigades. Incidentally when I read stories like this I just wonder how could they manage to obtain fuel and ammo considering how chaotic and disrupted Germany was in the last 6 weeks of the war? LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning You'f want to surrender to them Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus. Cheers Kameraden

05-16-10, 12:33 AM	#1059
LcSummers XO Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 431 Downloads: 341 Uploads: 0	Hi Frinic, Quote:LC,Morty I have travelled and lived in Eastern Europe and believe me Russian, Belarussian, Ukrainian and Polish etc women are absolutely stunning You'f want to surrender to them Thats true what you are writing but i prefer Hungarian women because my wife s from Hungary. I know that very well. Quote:Finally the Jagdtiger was one useless Sp vehicle the Germans could have done without.Compared to the Jagdpanther, the Hetzer or Jagdpanzer it was just slow, gas guzzling, too large to cross bridges and just a good target for allies jabos.It's combat record was dismal. For the price of building 1 JT they could have built 4 useful Stug IVs instead.Another loony idea along with the Ratte and Maus. The same was with the Königstiger (i like that monster very much), too much fuel consumtion, troubles with the road wheels and gearbox etc. So the Köti had the same problems, i mentioned that i wouldnt point on the advantages and disadvantages of the tanks ( i know them very well) but i like the JT with all of its disadvantages and today you can find only 3 examples of them. When reading the stories of the 653rd and 512th s.Pz.Jg.Abt. the JTs were feared to the end of the war by American forces. The JT was mainly used on the WF.I saw a video when some JTs surrenderd at Iserlohn. It is really a superb video. So as ZW knows i like tanks/destroyers (like the Jagdpanther späte Ausf.) in the last stages of WWII (1944-1945). Not only German, Allied tanks too. BTW frinic, you know very much, so if i have a question may i relay on you? Thanks LC

05-16-10, 10:09 AM	#1062
LcSummers XO Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 431 Downloads: 341 Uploads: 0	Question Hi Frinic so my first question. I know it is not about Kursk battle but i am interested in the Puma Sd.Kfz 234/2 with 50mm Pak. Can you tell me wich SS Unit used them and in the Ardennes do you can "show" me what kind of markings esp. Turmnummer they used? Were some of them used in the Kursk battle too? Thanx a lot for your help LC

05-16-10, 01:24 PM	#1063
woofiedog Engineer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New England Posts: 216 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The web site may help you out with the unit markings. http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Menu.htm http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer...rigade%201.htm 101 units of the 234/2 produced were distributed as follows: -Panzer Lehr Div. (1 Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 130): 25 units. Painted in dark yellow and without numerals or crosses. - 2 PzDiv (1.Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 2): 25 units. Some of its vehicles seem painted dark yellow without any marking (not even license plates) but a small trident and the Aufklärungs insignia, both on the front of the hull, at the left. Others, like the well knwon 111 carried 3 tone camo, crosses and numerals. - 1 SSPzDiv (SSPzAufkAbt 1): 16 units. painted in dark yellow with camo, probably 3 tone. They also carried crosses and numerals (3 digits) - 20 PzDiv ( PzAufkAbt 20): 16 units. There is a photo of a Puma white washed, in Silesia. - 7 PzDiv (1Kompanie/ PzAufkAbt 7): 6 units - 13 PzDiv: not known. http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules...=147179&page=1 http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogs...spahwagen.html __________________ Last edited by woofiedog; 05-16-10 at 01:41 PM.

05-17-10, 02:56 AM	#1064
Dung_Beetle Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Considering Buying T34 Vs. Tiger & Donating to Kursk Project Hi All, I haven't played a tank sim since Panzer Elite Special Edition; except, for the buggy T72 Balkans on Fire. I was really looking forward to T34 vs. Tiger, but read the reviews, and didn't want to buy another unfinished sim. I have a high-end system, and am enjoying Flaming Cliffs 2.0. Great Upgrade! Well worth the money! http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=1671&scr=default However, I am a tanker at heart. I need a good tank sim. I just want to know if this is this worth buying. Will it work for my system? I don't have T34 vs. Tiger. I would have to buy it, and then donate to the honorable and hardworking mod community. I don't have a lot of money to throw around these days, but as I said I need a good tank sim. Steel Beasts graphics just don't do it for me. Plus, I like WWII tanks. Here are my specs: Asus P6T7 Gigabyte 3 x GTX 285 Creative Fatality 1 Titanium Champion Series Intel 920 OC @ 3.7 (air cooled) LG W3000h monitor Corsair Dominator 1600 12 GB kit I would appreciate any advice for someone who wants a great tank sim, but doesn't want an, expensive, unfinished project that might not work well. I respect the work being done here, and would gladly spend money for a finished working sim of this genre. I’ve read through the posts, but would like specific advice relating to my system. Plus, I’m hoping for any new input that might encourage me to purchase this product and support the community. Gentleman! - Your advice! - Please! Dung_Beetle !

05-17-10, 04:39 AM	#1065
Chucky Planesman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 185 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Welcome to the forum Dung_Beetle I think that with 3 x GTX 285's you maybe won't have a problem running it? I only have 1 and have seen good frame rates. Seeing as Lighthouse have gone under,there is always the chance to pick it up very cheaply,thereby keeping costs down.ZeeWolf's mod isn't the cheapest I have ever seen,about the price of an average game maybe,but the guy is making improvements to a tank sim that it seems a lot of people want. Steel Fury didn't do it for me,I have Steel Beasts Pro PE but the graphics are too simple,although for realism it can't be beaten. I've said this before,and apart from one video on Youtube,we need some footage of Kursk! I always find that some decent footage of a game I want will always have me reaching for my wallet!