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skidman · 09-23-20, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

How many White Nationalists and Boogaloo boys are there? Estimates? I've never met one.

Stop posting BS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#United_States

Catfish · 09-23-20, 01:33 PM

What about the "Proud Boys" lmao
Seems there are quite some of them if you attend Trump rallies.

Onkel Neal · 09-23-20, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skidman

Stop posting BS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#United_States

What BS? I never met one. I've never heard of anyone who knows one. Deal with it.

skidman · 09-23-20, 03:35 PM

Well it's high time to broaden your mind then:

https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map?state=TX

u crank · 09-23-20, 03:50 PM

You should pick a better arbiter of racism than the Southern Poverty Law Center. Not a highly regarded organization.

Onkel Neal · 09-23-20, 04:00 PM

Oh my gosh, they're everywhere!

Soooo... some of the groups you are concerned about are not even white nationalists, apparently ...

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ISRAEL UNITED IN CHRIST
6 chapters

BLACK SEPARATIST

Hmm... there's quite lot of them

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NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY
BLACK SEPARATIST
HOUSTON

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PROUD BOYS
Established in the midst of the 2016 presidential election by VICE Media co-founder Gavin McInnes, the Proud Boys are self-described “western chauvinists” who adamantly deny any connection to the racist “alt-right,” insisting they are simply a fraternal group spreading an “anti-political correctness” and “anti-white guilt” agenda.

Nope, you cannot be anti-political correctness” and “anti-white guilt”, that makes you racist!

Here's one, yeah, that fits what I was saying, these people aren't white nationalists, by any stretch.

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THE REMEMBRANCE PROJECT
ANTI-IMMIGRANT
HOUSTON

Yup, their site says:
A voice for victims killed by illegal aliens.

So there you go, SPLC distorts the truth by labeling them anti-immigrant when they are anti-illegal immigrant. Big difference. Unless you feel it's ok to dismiss the law.

Hey, the wiki link you provided claims the KKK, the grandaddy of all hate groups, numbers 5,000 and 8,000 members. In a nation of 330 millions, that's a fraction of a drop in the pool. There are 5 million and 14 million people in the U.S. diagnosed as compulsive hoarders.

I'm never said and I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm saying they are rare and unusual. In any society there is a small segment of freaks. Right now the left is blowing it out of proportion as a reason to go wild in the streets. That's more of a psychologic deviance than anything else.

skidman · 09-23-20, 04:01 PM

I'm sure the information on the map is good enough to help you finding a white-supremacist in TX once you discover the filter mode. If you want to assess the threat imposed by extremist political groups, you can not solely rely on numbers. You have to consider dynamics and their propensity to violence. You are concerned about the left and BLM "blowing it out of proportion" I am concerned about a 55% increase of members of White nationalist hate groups since Trump is POTUS as reported by the Guardian, the "Unite the right rally" in Charlottesville, the El Paso massacre with 26 killed, the attack on the synagogue in Poway. They may be rare and unusual but their action speak louder than your words.

Onkel Neal · 09-23-20, 04:06 PM

Sure, they exist. I'm here, in Texas, but as I said, they are so rare, I've never met one. How many have you met in Texas? You doing first hand research or just googling your way along?

Mr Quatro · 09-23-20, 09:01 PM

I feel sorry for the undercover agencies (pick any three letter group) that has to infiltrate these hate groups to see what they think from the inside out.

Some are so evil that they can tell if your not one of them and shorten the time you have left on the earth

MaDef · 09-23-20, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skidman

I'm sure the information on the map is good enough to help you finding a white-supremacist in TX once you discover the filter mode. If you want to assess the threat imposed by extremist political groups, you can not solely rely on numbers. You have to consider dynamics and their propensity to violence. You are concerned about the left and BLM "blowing it out of proportion" I am concerned about a 55% increase of members of White nationalist hate groups since Trump is POTUS as reported by the Guardian, the "Unite the right rally" in Charlottesville, the El Paso massacre with 26 killed, the attack on the synagogue in Poway. They may be rare and unusual but their action speak louder than your words.

So you have 2 shootings and only one was done by a "white Nationalist", but according to you they're hiding under every other bed in America. I've seen more mountain lions in my life than I've seen white nationalists except on television.

August · 09-23-20, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Sure, they exist. I'm here, in Texas, but as I said, they are so rare, I've never met one. How many have you met in Texas? You doing first hand research or just googling your way along?

Of course he's just googling it. He can't see our reality with his own eyes. He has to rely on what he is spoon fed by the media.

skidman · 09-24-20, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Sure, they exist. I'm here, in Texas, but as I said, they are so rare, I've never met one.

Have you ever met an ANTIFA or BLM person in real life?

skidman · 09-24-20, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDef

So you have 2 shootings and only one was done by a "white Nationalist", but according to you they're hiding under every other bed in America. I've seen more mountain lions in my life than I've seen white nationalists except on television.

Ah I see, two shootings are not good enough. Maybe you should talk to the victims' parents, partners and kids. That might change your mind. I never said "they're hiding under every other bed". Stop putting words in my mouth. But to state "I never met one, white nationalism does not pose a problem" is hardly a adequate way to address the matter.

You insist this is about numbers. It isn't. This is about people thinking: Sure, they are few, but there are enough of them to drive the car. I'll be in the back seat. Smiling.

skidman · 09-24-20, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Of course he's just googling it. He can't see our reality with his own eyes. He has to rely on what he is spoon fed by the media.

Leven Jung, had I noticed you sat next to me yesterday, I'd have treated you to a beer.

Onkel Neal · 09-24-20, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by skidman

Have you ever met an ANTIFA or BLM person in real life?

I never made any claims I did. They're very rare too.

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skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I'm sure the information on the map is good enough to help you finding a white-supremacist in TX once you discover the filter mode. If you want to assess the threat imposed by extremist political groups, you can not solely rely on numbers. You have to consider dynamics and their propensity to violence. You are concerned about the left and BLM "blowing it out of proportion" I am concerned about a 55% increase of members of White nationalist hate groups since Trump is POTUS as reported by the Guardian, the "Unite the right rally" in Charlottesville, the El Paso massacre with 26 killed, the attack on the synagogue in Poway. They may be rare and unusual but their action speak louder than your words. __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams) Last edited by skidman; 09-23-20 at 05:32 PM.

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I feel sorry for the undercover agencies (pick any three letter group) that has to infiltrate these hate groups to see what they think from the inside out. Some are so evil that they can tell if your not one of them and shorten the time you have left on the earth __________________ pla•teau noun a relatively stable level, period, or condition a level of attainment or achievement Lord help me get to the next plateau ..

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Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,284 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Sure, they exist. I'm here, in Texas, but as I said, they are so rare, I've never met one. How many have you met in Texas? You doing first hand research or just googling your way along?