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Old 05-25-09, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default Calculating AOB with OLC Gold

Preface: I was previously using GWX 2 and an "earlier" version of OLC GUI. (I can't remeber which version but the graduations horizontal graduations went 0 - 5 - 10 - 15 - 20).
I've now done a Fresh Install of SH3, GWX 3 Gold, Sh3 Commander & OLC GUI Gold.

The Problem: Now the graduations have gone to 0-10-20-30-40 I can't seem to calcute AOB.
In the following example:

•I've measured the range (using both the OLC scope wheel thing and with Map Contacts enabled). I make it 1,500 metres.
•I've aligned 1,500 (15) on the outer-part of the middle ring with the ships length (140.5m) on the Outer Ring.
•In the above example the ship is at approximately 26 horizontal marks.
•Now (this is the problem) 26 on the inner-part of the middle ring is well past 90 (°) on the Inner Ring??????


My Question(s)
1 - Am I doing anything wrong?
2 - Is there anything else I need to do to calculate the AOB (e.g. Halve anything or double anything).
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Old 05-25-09, 02:25 PM   #2
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There was an updated part of the tutorial.I guess OLC himself would come by soon and will tell you what you are doing wrong.

I also use OLC GOld though i measure the AOB on eye with good results.
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Old 05-25-09, 03:11 PM   #3
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you didn't do anything wrong Beng.the problem is that mast's values sucks and this have as result your range measurments to be tottaly incorrect.
open data\Sea\NKLS_ and there open the cfg file.set at mast=21.2 and save the file.your hot spot of the ship is the top of the funnel .here:


play again with this ship and see the results

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Old 05-26-09, 09:45 AM   #4
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BenG,
You may want to read this page and then download the video tutorials. Note that the text on the linked page explains the "new" UZO markings (which aren't covered in any of the videos).
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Old 05-26-09, 12:28 PM   #5
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What modification is this screen shot from?
What are the 3 coloured scails inside the chronometer for?
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Old 05-26-09, 01:04 PM   #6
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What modification is this screen shot from?
What are the 3 coloured scails inside the chronometer for?
Well, you could have figured that out by reading the thread title, and the rest of the messages in it. (atleast a bit)

Sorry, I'm grumpy as my PC died on me today.

Those things around the periscope view are sliderulers to mimic/simulate the real-life german (attack) periscope optics that could determine both range and AOB in almost one go. Onelifecrisis made that mod you see here (it appeared in various editions, but his latest is OLC Gold Mk2b). They are also in the U-jagd tools by Joegrundman, and some derivative mods by others.

Those colored scales around the chronometer are scales to determine speed of a target, as they pass the line of your periscope. The full procedure is a bit more involved than just looking at the target though. (you need to eliminate the effect of your own speed) The colored circles represent a certain length of the target. After the needle has moved X seconds it points to the appropriate speed for the length of that color (100m, 150m or 200m). If the actual ship has a different length you need to chose the color that best fits, or multiply/divide appropriately. But I found a way to (ab)use that range/AOB finder wheel in calculating the speed for any length of ship. See that crooked mark next to the 60 degrees in the inner (AOB) scale?

Watch those videos in the link OLC gave above to see how they all work.


BTW, Does that mean we can start to corrupt you into the wonderfull world of manual targeting?
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Old 05-27-09, 08:18 PM   #7
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ben,

did any of this help? I have had the same problems multiple times. some ships are ok, others aren't, but always the exact same, AOB >90. I posted the same question in the mods section, never figured it out.
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Old 05-28-09, 04:02 AM   #8
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makman94 explained the problem. Its old news. Some modded ships have the wrong mast and length values. Would be nice if someone could be bothered to correct them all!
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Old 05-28-09, 06:59 PM   #9
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is there a list of ships with wrong mast values?
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Old 05-28-09, 07:38 PM   #10
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I downloaded "OLC's Video Tutorials"
Then exported then to a file in "my documents" using Winzip
"Video Tutorial Supplement for OLC 'Gold'.avi" played perfectly on windows media player.
"Original OLC GUI Video Tutroial.avi" only played the sound.

I therefore attempted to delete them inorder to redownload them.
Each time I try to delete them I get the message:-

Cannot delete OLC's Video Tutorials.rar: it is being used by another person or program. Close any programs that might be using the file and try later.

If when I get this error message I press ctrl-alt-delete then the only programs listed as running is windows explorer. I do not know how to stop the program that is stopping me from deleting these files.

I have since been able to delete "Original OLC GUI Video Tutroial.avi"
but I cannot delete "Video Tutorial Supplement for OLC 'Gold'.avi"

Now when I double click on "Video Tutorial Supplement for OLC 'Gold'.avi" it opens windows media player and playes the video but also brings up a second error message:-
Windows Explorer has encountered a problem and needs to close......Send error report.
It then either closes windows explorer, or closes it and my computer showes only my desk top pictire without the program short-cuts and without the start bar at the bottom.

Please help me.
How can I get rid of these downloads.


I also tried removing from my computer my instalation of winzip, and a few other downloaded programs that I do not use, but I could still not delete these video tutorials.
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Old 05-29-09, 02:51 AM   #11
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How about you do a reboot of your PC and then delete ?
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Old 05-29-09, 04:07 AM   #12
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How about you do a reboot of your PC and then delete ?
Ive tried "switching it off and on again" multiple times, computer off for over 12 hrs in between with no effect on my ability to delete ths file.
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Old 05-29-09, 06:12 AM   #13
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Ive tried "switching it off and on again" multiple times, computer off for over 12 hrs in between with no effect on my ability to delete ths file.
Was that with the power actually completely down (shutdown windows then unplug the cord, or the switch at the back of the machine's power unit... if there is one), or could it be you have just pressed a "Standby" button (that keeps everything in ram)?

As for Ctrl-Alt-Del/Taskmanager: there is a second tab showing a list of all the processes. (I hope vista looks the same, since I haven't seen/used that ... yet) Since you played a video, it is most likely Windows MediaPlayer kept a hold on that avi file. 'Killing' the Mediaplayer process in the second tab (look for the exe of the mediaplay, something similar to WMplayer.exe) should release the avi file aswel. Becareful!!! not to kill other processes on your system you do not know about. Or your running system might not work correctly anymore. But a full reboot solves that without a problem.
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Old 05-29-09, 07:36 AM   #14
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Thanks Pisces

The computer was turned fully off, no power at all.

I will try your sugestion when I get home tonight.
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Old 05-29-09, 11:34 AM   #15
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I posted the same question in the mods section, never figured it out.
did you try what i told you there Tmdgm or not ?

ps: oh,there is not such a list you are asking for
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