U-BOAT_HAHD on SH4 platform.

Hans Witteman · 09-07-11, 12:59 AM

Hi SH4 shipmates ,

Most of you guy's are probably aware that we are working on megamod for SH3 but some recent discussions raise the point that SH4 would be more appropriated to render our high quality vision of the dream sim we all want to see.

So i am opening this thread to start the discussion on the major porting aspect we will have to deal with ex; Harbor integration, u-boat integration, campaign elements etc.

Keep in mind that i didn't follow closely the modding community of SH4 so many thing are still new to me regarding what have been done so far to implemented all SH3 elements in SH4 structure.

Also we would be more than happy if some of you experienced modders are willing to join our team, we have plenty of resources to offer like advanced video tutorials and extensive reference material and assets.

We also have a complete website with private chat and member folders etc.

Awaiting your constructive comments and feedback.

Best regards Hans

urfisch · 09-07-11, 03:23 AM

i think, it is important to have lurker and drakkhen onboard, hans. they already created some important stuff, regarding the atlantic theater and its campaigns, harbor layouts, etc. so there already is a base we could start from.

Hitman · 09-07-11, 09:59 AM

Porting 3D models is quite straightforward, IIRC Ducimus enabled all the harbours of SH3 almost by dropping the files into Sh4. Conversion of units isn't difficult either, and the campaign is already very well done by lurker in his "Operation Monsoon" mod, which also added lots of UBoats (Including working minelayers), etc.

You also have already a great environment mod, and the only big difficulty -which was the interface- was overcomed by karamazovnew, who provided an excellent, usable and very professional and fitting GUI.

Quite frankly, adding all the HAHD stuff to the existing combo and polishing the game to the end would be friggin awesome, and probably quite superior to SH5. Heck ... what are we waiting for?

Let the conversion begin at once

nemo7 · 09-07-11, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Quite frankly, adding all the HAHD stuff to the existing combo and polishing the game to the end would be friggin awesome, and probably quite superior to SH5. Heck ... what are we waiting for?

Let the conversion begin at once

+1

Hans Witteman · 09-07-11, 12:58 PM

Hi shipmates,

It seem that the SH4 community is dead or close to it because nobody seem enthusiastic about our proposition.

Best regards Hans

Sepp von Ch. · 09-07-11, 01:10 PM

Hello Hans! This project sounds really great! It would be a completly new mod including the new camapign for german submarines or the implementation of HAHD into Operation Monsun?

nemo7 · 09-07-11, 01:21 PM

Hans, you have to realise that there is a huge gap between the SH3+GWX3.0+SH3COMMANDER and SH5 u-boat simers. IF you can achieve the "SH4 Atlantic predator anabiosis" then MOST of the "SH3 lovers" and "SH5 haters" will follow your vision instantly...

Hans Witteman · 09-07-11, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Josef von Posorschitz

Hello Hans! This project sounds really great! It would be a completly new mod including the new camapign for german submarines or the implementation of HAHD into Operation Monsun?

Hi mate,

Yes if we can have Lurker on our side it would become the most played version of the SH serie for a couple of years ahead.

Let's just hope some folks in the SH4 community are interested to work in a real team effort to get our ultimate goal a reality.

Best regards Hans

Hans Witteman · 09-07-11, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nemo7

Hans, you have to realise that there is a huge gap between the SH3+GWX3.0+SH3COMMANDER and SH5 u-boat simers. IF you can achieve the "SH4 Atlantic predator anabiosis" then MOST of the "SH3 lovers" and "SH5 haters" will follow your vision instantly...

Hi mate,

Yes the goal is to make what everybody want from Sh3 in SH4 with the extra bell and whistle aka more advanced shader and technologies.

SH5 would required way to much time and effort to bring it close to SH3 spirit and like i say even if some features look good there is still a tremendous amount of work to even getting close to the SH3 quality.

Also by today standard SH4 can be run by almost any computer but not SH5 with this one you need a killer rig to just enable the water effect!

So SH4 should be the road to glory not without the effort.

Best regards Hans

nemo7 · 09-07-11, 01:36 PM

Yeap... That's the spirit mate...

nemo7 · 09-07-11, 01:47 PM

W.I.P. by Tomi099

09-07-11, 01:48 PM

Hans , I support your choice, I only hope that you will drag more modders around your team this way. Revival of GWX4, under a different name? Or maybe refine OM with Lurker's help, cause we're talking about U-Boats here, right?

One last thing: Should I bookmark this thread? The things are moving here, right?

Hans Witteman · 09-07-11, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkIpetrucci

Hans , I support your choice, I only hope that you will drag more modders around your team this way. Revival of GWX4, under a different name? Or maybe refine OM with Lurker's help, cause we're talking about U-Boats here, right?

One last thing: Should I bookmark this thread? The things are moving here, right?

Hi mate,

If no one is willing to team with us then i will have to change my mind and get back to SH3 i already mention that without a proper team effort i won't go that route.

Don't bookmark yet i still need other team members approval before starting the work.

Best regards Hans

Hans Witteman · 09-07-11, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nemo7

W.I.P. by Tomi099

Hi mate,

Yes indeed the technologies is more advanced regarding shaders and other features but wait to see it port with my own wicked 3d artist trick

Best regards Hans

Hitman · 09-07-11, 02:41 PM

But why exactly do you think you need SH4 modders? The thing is, anybody who can mod Sh3 can also mod Sh4, bith games have identical file structure and work almost the same except the menu.ini

The work from older Sh4 modders like lurker, Ducimus or karamazovnew is not needed for your team, what they all did is ready to be used directly and doesn't need much further updating.

The effort it would take for you and your current team to get into Sh4 is really minimal, so believe me when I say that the current lack of Sh4 modders is absolutely no problem. Besides, as soon as your project starts I'm sure that new blood will pour in and become interested.

Don't pass on the posibilities (Not just graphics, there's working resupply, calling friendly forces, correct weather with no bugs, no aircraft bug at high TC, better engine to allow huge TC rates, etc, etc) of Sh4 just because of that, it would be truly unforgiveable

09-07-11, 12:59 AM	#1
Hans Witteman Kaleun of U-3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: somewhere in 1939 Posts: 1,816 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	U-BOAT_HAHD on SH4 platform. Hi SH4 shipmates , Most of you guy's are probably aware that we are working on megamod for SH3 but some recent discussions raise the point that SH4 would be more appropriated to render our high quality vision of the dream sim we all want to see. So i am opening this thread to start the discussion on the major porting aspect we will have to deal with ex; Harbor integration, u-boat integration, campaign elements etc. Keep in mind that i didn't follow closely the modding community of SH4 so many thing are still new to me regarding what have been done so far to implemented all SH3 elements in SH4 structure. Also we would be more than happy if some of you experienced modders are willing to join our team, we have plenty of resources to offer like advanced video tutorials and extensive reference material and assets. We also have a complete website with private chat and member folders etc. Awaiting your constructive comments and feedback. Best regards Hans __________________

09-07-11, 03:23 AM	#2
urfisch Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Deep down in Germany Posts: 1,969 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	i think, it is important to have lurker and drakkhen onboard, hans. they already created some important stuff, regarding the atlantic theater and its campaigns, harbor layouts, etc. so there already is a base we could start from. __________________

09-07-11, 09:59 AM	#3
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Porting 3D models is quite straightforward, IIRC Ducimus enabled all the harbours of SH3 almost by dropping the files into Sh4. Conversion of units isn't difficult either, and the campaign is already very well done by lurker in his "Operation Monsoon" mod, which also added lots of UBoats (Including working minelayers), etc. You also have already a great environment mod, and the only big difficulty -which was the interface- was overcomed by karamazovnew, who provided an excellent, usable and very professional and fitting GUI. Quite frankly, adding all the HAHD stuff to the existing combo and polishing the game to the end would be friggin awesome, and probably quite superior to SH5. Heck ... what are we waiting for? Let the conversion begin at once __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

09-07-11, 12:58 PM	#5
Hans Witteman Kaleun of U-3 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: somewhere in 1939 Posts: 1,816 Downloads: 123 Uploads: 0	Hi shipmates, It seem that the SH4 community is dead or close to it because nobody seem enthusiastic about our proposition. Best regards Hans __________________

09-07-11, 01:10 PM	#6
Sepp von Ch. Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In my U-552 and Tiger Posts: 1,732 Downloads: 788 Uploads: 0	Hello Hans! This project sounds really great! It would be a completly new mod including the new camapign for german submarines or the implementation of HAHD into Operation Monsun? __________________ *U-552* *Tiger* *IDF*

09-07-11, 01:21 PM	#7
nemo7 Weps Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Averof's bunk Posts: 357 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 0	Patience matey... Hans, you have to realise that there is a huge gap between the SH3+GWX3.0+SH3COMMANDER and SH5 u-boat simers. IF you can achieve the "SH4 Atlantic predator anabiosis" then MOST of the "SH3 lovers" and "SH5 haters" will follow your vision instantly... __________________ Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before...

09-07-11, 01:36 PM	#10
nemo7 Weps Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Averof's bunk Posts: 357 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 0	Yeap... That's the spirit mate... __________________ Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before...

09-07-11, 01:47 PM	#11
nemo7 Weps Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Averof's bunk Posts: 357 Downloads: 389 Uploads: 0	A beauty; Isn't she? W.I.P. by Tomi099 __________________ Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before...

09-07-11, 01:48 PM	#12
mkIpetrucci Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hans , I support your choice, I only hope that you will drag more modders around your team this way. Revival of GWX4, under a different name? Or maybe refine OM with Lurker's help, cause we're talking about U-Boats here, right? One last thing: Should I bookmark this thread? The things are moving here, right?

09-07-11, 02:41 PM	#15
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,099 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	But why exactly do you think you need SH4 modders? The thing is, anybody who can mod Sh3 can also mod Sh4, bith games have identical file structure and work almost the same except the menu.ini The work from older Sh4 modders like lurker, Ducimus or karamazovnew is not needed for your team, what they all did is ready to be used directly and doesn't need much further updating. The effort it would take for you and your current team to get into Sh4 is really minimal, so believe me when I say that the current lack of Sh4 modders is absolutely no problem. Besides, as soon as your project starts I'm sure that new blood will pour in and become interested. Don't pass on the posibilities (Not just graphics, there's working resupply, calling friendly forces, correct weather with no bugs, no aircraft bug at high TC, better engine to allow huge TC rates, etc, etc) of Sh4 just because of that, it would be truly unforgiveable __________________ One day I will return to sea ...