[WIP] König Bismarck

[ivank]

Im finally taking the chanllege of making a playable ship, I was thinking or either taking Yamato1's Bismarck, with permission, or the bismarck already in the game. but i need help;
1) whish is easier to work w/, the already playable or the AI?
2) how do i add a second working rudder?
3) how do i add a thrid prop?
4) how do i change gun damage?
5) is anyone willing to texture this model for me?
6) how do you extend a ships length?

Tec Specs:

100,000 metric tons
300m x 38m x 10m
33.3 kts
3 convergent propellers
3 turbines by 2 nuclear reactors
220,000 hp
2 rudders
10,000 nautical miles at 22 kts
crew: 5591
Planes: 8 Arado Ar-196 flying boats
Armor: strong enough to take a 18'' shell
Armament: 8 x 20.75in, 12 x 7.1in, 16 x 4.1in, 16 X 3.7 cm AA, 18 X 2.0 cm AA

-UNTIL SOMEONE CAN HELP ME THIS PROJECT IS POSTPONED-

[Raptor1]

What Bismarck already in the game?

[yamato1]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

What Bismarck already in the game?

Yes!Thanks for me!

[Raptor1]

Originally Posted by yamato1

Yes!Thanks for me!

I was referring to this:

Originally Posted by That guy

I was thinking or either taking Yamato1's Bismarck, with permission, or the bismarck already in the game.

[ivank]

oh im sry i ment Greomes Bismarck. ill have to get permission.

[W4lt3r]

That's some odd bismarck. Are you talking about the H39-class project battleship? Or even the heavier H44-class project battleship, tho both of them were only paper ships, at least with GMX They're in SH3..

But yeah, those are 2 damn big ships. Could easily outpower a yamato with those, no? :hmm:

[Ishigami]

Originally Posted by W4lt3r

Are you talking about the H39-class project battleship? Or even the heavier H44-class project battleship, tho both of them were only paper ships, at least with GMX They're in SH3..

Those two are in GMX for Sh3? May have screen for us?

[ivank]

Originally Posted by W4lt3r

That's some odd bismarck. Are you talking about the H39-class project battleship? Or even the heavier H44-class project battleship, tho both of them were only paper ships, at least with GMX They're in SH3..

But yeah, those are 2 damn big ships. Could easily outpower a yamato with those, no? :hmm:

the great H44-class, the H44 had 22'' guns but i thought that might be a bit too strong for the gun, at a certain point that much power is excessive, i mean nothing can even dent you, thats boring, i thought 17.75 would be better strong yet not too strong still ofters a challege

[ivank]

so anyone able to answer my questions?

[ubootcomrade]

Your making a H-44 battleship? , You sir, have made a new best friend

[Raptor1]

The H-44 design had 20" guns (Much like the Super Yamato, which had 20.1" guns), but I find that it would be highly impractical to have guns that size on a ship, for the hull to be able to take the pressure it would have to be enormous, I do believe there wasn't a drydock big enough in the whole world to accommodate it and if there was the ship would be a sitting duck for air attacks anyway...

In fact, Hitler argued for a 20"-gunned Battleship from the beginning, but his naval staff convinced him it would be impractical, which resulted in the 16"-armed H-39 class (Which would probably have been a great Battleship, on par with the Iowa and Lion classes), but of course his huge gun mania continued until they designed the H-44...

Anyway, looking forward to seeing it anyway

[AntEater]

First of all, "König Bismarck" sounds really dumb.
Bismarck was a Chancellor, in british terms, a prime minister, not a king.
I know it is an analogy to the Königstiger tank, but Königstiger is the german word for Bengal tiger, so it is an animal. The "king" does not mean "king size".

Also, the H Class had only one change of being realized, that was in its original form.
A 16 inch armed diesel driven raider battleship with some innovative features and some no brainers like installing the aircraft hanger (with avgas tanks) near the rear turret barbette.
H-44 and the preceding designs were to be completed "after final victory", that means after Germany somehow managed to defeat not only Britain, but also the USSR and the US. Maybe they were meant for the final showdown with Japan!
So that makes a H-44 about as likely as the sea turning into chocolate.
I have my suspicion that designs like H 44 had more to do with the general war situation. A lot of engineers worked in the Navy surface ship design bureaus that were not involved in U-Boats essentially had nothing to do. According to the mobilization construction program, no new vessels above destroyer size were to be constructed. And even these destroyers and smaller vessels were evolutionary, not revolutionary designs gradually improved by the yards themselves, except for the almost completed diesel destroyer Z 51.
So all those engineers were pretty much waiting for their call to the east front if they did not keep themselves busy.
So they kept churning out plans not only for mega battleships but also for practically every type of warship until almost the last day.

[W4lt3r]

Originally Posted by Ishigami

Those two are in GMX for Sh3? May have screen for us?

It is somewhere buried in the SH3 mod image thread, Even though their main armament is wrong, the chassis hits perfectly on the H39 class, i'll try to dig it up from there.

*edit* found it.

Sure, it might have some similarity to the scharnhorst but the ship is way too long to be one, compared on the deutchland on the image. >.> At least my eyes tell me these two are H39's, and when i mentioned this in the thread and also inquired about the Europa class german project carrier / Graf spee, some hint i received that they'd be a Kiel.. *shrug* donno the date though.

[ubootcomrade]

I hope this is of some help for you ivank, its the draft of the H class battleship



gotta love wikipedia

[ivank]

Originally Posted by ubootcomrade

I hope this is of some help for you ivank, its the draft of the H class battleship



gotta love wikipedia

it does help but all i need right now are my questions in my 1st post answered then it will take a week to make.