Who will win the 2020 US Presidential Election? - Page 17

Platapus · 10-28-20, 06:15 PM

That is one of the more frustrating things about this. In these times, the citizens have access to more information about how their government works and what is happening than any period of history.

But too many people still prefer to get their information second hand through political commentators and such.

Some people really like dichotomous sound byte answers to things that are quite often a lot more complex.

In my more cynical moments as a Precinct Chief, I feel that a lot of the citizens would be very happy if there were no names on the ballot, just political parties.

In my state, local elections below a certain level only have candidates identified by their names and no political party. Almost every such election, I will have voters complain to me that they can't fill out their ballots if they don't know which political party links up with which candidate. Yikes!

Bilge_Rat · 10-29-20, 09:51 AM

well no the answer is lot simpler, most potential voters have very limited interest in actual news unless it affects them personally, so they form their opinion based on very limited info.

As Winston Churchill apparently once said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

Jimbuna · 10-29-20, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

well no the answer is lot simpler, most potential voters have very limited interest in actual news unless it affects them personally, so they form their opinion based on very limited info.

As Winston Churchill apparently once said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

I'd never heard that before so looked it up.

Quote:

“The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
No attribution. Though he sometimes despaired of democracy’s slowness to act for its preservation, Churchill had a more positive attitude towards the average voter. https://winstonchurchill.org/publica...ll-never-said/

Platapus · 10-29-20, 10:42 AM

I would like to up date that with "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with people on the Internet.”

Bilge_Rat · 10-29-20, 10:45 AM

that is why I said apparently. It is certainly something I could see him saying.

Jimbuna · 10-29-20, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

I would like to up date that with "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with people on the Internet.”

Yeah, certainly in political threads

Jimbuna · 10-29-20, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

that is why I said apparently. It is certainly something I could see him saying.

Sorry, cross posts but yes I certainly agree.

Catfish · 10-31-20, 04:44 AM

(Reuters) Exclusive: Russian hackers targeted California, Indiana Democratic parties

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN27F1CP

Platapus · 10-31-20, 04:35 PM

mapuc · 10-31-20, 05:25 PM

Following is an off topic comment and hopefully written in a funny way

Year: 2025
Season: Early Summer.
Time: 17.50 Local time
Place: In some local tv studios in Washington.

Anchor in news at 6.

- Before the weather forecast our man at the White House as something special to tell us.
What makes it special Dave ?
Camera change from studio to the journalist Dave who is standing in front of the White House.
Dave:
As mentioned before President Mitchell had a meeting with Mr. Chairman, some other people earlier today and they didn't just discuss economy.

I quote The President
"I feel pity for this poor bastard, isn't there anything we can do ?"
One of the other participant who was at the meeting came up with an idea
why not expand behind the left wing. Build an annex where an exact copy of the Oval office would be placed inside.
The others approved this idea and now the President and Mr. Chairman will go on to realize this project. When this has been realized, this poor man can sit in this fake Oval office and make lots of decrees

Journalist says goodbye to his viewer.

Back to the studio
Anchor
Those of you who is wondering who this poor person is.
It's Mr. Trump a former President who was in charge between 2016 to 2020 and who the election to Mr. Biden.
Mr. Trump didn't accept the outcome of this election and have refused to leave the White House where he still is.
(I have tried to make it funny this off topic comment and it's based on some old statement from Mr. Trump..who said he wouldn't accept the outcome of the 2020 election)

Markus

Catfish · 11-01-20, 04:22 AM

^

This is actually very good, stuff for a novel

Jimbuna · 11-01-20, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

^

This is actually very good, stuff for a novel

Gerald · 11-01-20, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Donald Trump and Joe Biden are travelling across the nation on Sunday as the US election enters its closing stage.

President Trump planned to visit five battleground states while his challenger Mr Biden spoke at a campaign event in Pennsylvania.

The Democratic candidate maintains a solid national lead in the polls ahead of Tuesday's general election.

But this advantage is narrower in key states which could decide the result.

More than 90 million people have already cast their ballots in early voting, putting the country on course for its highest turnout in a century.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54774532

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54665375

Side links, https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...lection-sprint

Catfish · 11-02-20, 03:23 AM

It seems Trump is not the cause but the result of the divide in the US. But it is not statesmanlike to deepen the trenches for his personal benefit.
He may not be racist himself but he embraces anyone who will support him, giving licence to people to be racist and xenophobic.
It looks like Trump will declare himself the winner before the votes are all counted, regardless the outcome.

- If the counts suppport it, ok.
- If there are more Biden voters and electors, Trump will tweet that the election was a fraud, and we all can imagine what happens next.

Jimbuna · 11-02-20, 06:33 AM

Final push for Trump and Biden with a day to go

Donald Trump continues his frenetic pace of campaigning in North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.

His Democratic rival Joe Biden will campaign in Pennsylvania and Ohio ahead of Tuesday's poll.

Biden will be joined by Lady Gaga at a rally in Pittsburgh, while singer John Legend appears with running-mate Kamala Harris in Philadelphia.

Some 90 million people have already voted.

The country is on course for its highest electoral turnout rate in more than a century.

A court in Houston is to consider a Republican claim that drive-through voting is illegal and 120,000 votes should be void.

The FBI says it's investigating after a convoy of vehicles with Trump flags surrounded a bus carrying Biden campaign staff on a Texas highway.

The final push for votes follows America’s worst ever week for new coronavirus cases, with more than 1,000 people dying each day.

View Poll Results: Who do you think will win the 2020 US Presidential Election?
Mighty Trumpster	30	54.55%
Good ol' Joe	20	36.36%
Ross Perot	5	9.09%
Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

10-28-20, 06:15 PM	#241
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	That is one of the more frustrating things about this. In these times, the citizens have access to more information about how their government works and what is happening than any period of history. But too many people still prefer to get their information second hand through political commentators and such. Some people really like dichotomous sound byte answers to things that are quite often a lot more complex. In my more cynical moments as a Precinct Chief, I feel that a lot of the citizens would be very happy if there were no names on the ballot, just political parties. In my state, local elections below a certain level only have candidates identified by their names and no political party. Almost every such election, I will have voters complain to me that they can't fill out their ballots if they don't know which political party links up with which candidate. Yikes! __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-29-20, 09:51 AM	#242
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	well no the answer is lot simpler, most potential voters have very limited interest in actual news unless it affects them personally, so they form their opinion based on very limited info. As Winston Churchill apparently once said "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” __________________

10-29-20, 10:42 AM	#244
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I would like to up date that with "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with people on the Internet.” __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-29-20, 10:45 AM	#245
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,793 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	that is why I said apparently. It is certainly something I could see him saying. __________________

10-31-20, 04:44 AM	#248
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	(Reuters) Exclusive: Russian hackers targeted California, Indiana Democratic parties https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN27F1CP __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

10-31-20, 04:35 PM	#249
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 18,946 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	__________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-31-20, 05:25 PM	#250
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,870 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Following is an off topic comment and hopefully written in a funny way Year: 2025 Season: Early Summer. Time: 17.50 Local time Place: In some local tv studios in Washington. Anchor in news at 6. - Before the weather forecast our man at the White House as something special to tell us. What makes it special Dave ? Camera change from studio to the journalist Dave who is standing in front of the White House. Dave: As mentioned before President Mitchell had a meeting with Mr. Chairman, some other people earlier today and they didn't just discuss economy. I quote The President "I feel pity for this poor bastard, isn't there anything we can do ?" One of the other participant who was at the meeting came up with an idea why not expand behind the left wing. Build an annex where an exact copy of the Oval office would be placed inside. The others approved this idea and now the President and Mr. Chairman will go on to realize this project. When this has been realized, this poor man can sit in this fake Oval office and make lots of decrees Journalist says goodbye to his viewer. Back to the studio Anchor Those of you who is wondering who this poor person is. It's Mr. Trump a former President who was in charge between 2016 to 2020 and who the election to Mr. Biden. Mr. Trump didn't accept the outcome of this election and have refused to leave the White House where he still is. (I have tried to make it funny this off topic comment and it's based on some old statement from Mr. Trump..who said he wouldn't accept the outcome of the 2020 election) Markus

11-01-20, 04:22 AM	#251
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ This is actually very good, stuff for a novel __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-02-20, 03:23 AM	#254
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,897 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	It seems Trump is not the cause but the result of the divide in the US. But it is not statesmanlike to deepen the trenches for his personal benefit. He may not be racist himself but he embraces anyone who will support him, giving licence to people to be racist and xenophobic. It looks like Trump will declare himself the winner before the votes are all counted, regardless the outcome. - If the counts suppport it, ok. - If there are more Biden voters and electors, Trump will tweet that the election was a fraud, and we all can imagine what happens next. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

11-02-20, 06:33 AM	#255
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,122 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Final push for Trump and Biden with a day to go Donald Trump continues his frenetic pace of campaigning in North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. His Democratic rival Joe Biden will campaign in Pennsylvania and Ohio ahead of Tuesday's poll. Biden will be joined by Lady Gaga at a rally in Pittsburgh, while singer John Legend appears with running-mate Kamala Harris in Philadelphia. Some 90 million people have already voted. The country is on course for its highest electoral turnout rate in more than a century. A court in Houston is to consider a Republican claim that drive-through voting is illegal and 120,000 votes should be void. The FBI says it's investigating after a convoy of vehicles with Trump flags surrounded a bus carrying Biden campaign staff on a Texas highway. The final push for votes follows America’s worst ever week for new coronavirus cases, with more than 1,000 people dying each day. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)