PMDG 737-X about taking DCS A-10`s sim throne ?

Stormfly · 07-22-11, 07:32 AM

PMDG 737-X about taking DCS A-10`s sim throne ?

...check new videos here (over 1h lenght each)

http://vimeo.com/26700490

http://vimeo.com/26693770

Arclight · 07-22-11, 08:55 AM

Think I'm in love... this for FS9? FSX?

Ah nvm, FSX it is: http://www.precisionmanuals.com/pages/product/ngx.html

Skybird · 07-22-11, 11:52 AM

PMDG's 747 is available for FS9 since years and has now been carried over to FSX.

For FS9, it is usually been seen as one of the three or four most sophisticated packages for FS9, beside the 767 by Level-D, the ATR-72-500 by Flight1, and recently the 737 by iFly.

Knowing all the mntioned titles for FS9 myself, I can only say that it is packages like this that do justice to the claim that Microsoft's software can be used as a simulator indeed. Because what Microsoft delivers in the box by default, is not so much a simulation, but a game. The big advanatge of it is it strictly modular conception. And by exchanging all the modules that come out of the box, and replacing them with more sophisticated modules for cockpit functionality, weather, environment etc etc, you can turn a game into a sim, using FS only as kind of a framework to keep all the new modules linked together and interacting with each other.

The PMDG 747 is plenty of fun, and plenty of studying, especially if these kind of addons are new to you.

This is not to reduce the fame of DCS simulations. Getting A-10 next week, and knowing Black Shark so far, I do not say at all they are any less worthy simulation. In fact Black shark still gives me more prblems to master, than any other flightsim. Those Russian systems simply are not up to my taste, and I am also not used to their handling design philosophy. A problem I already had with the cockpit of Flanker 2.0/2.5. I even struggled when trying (infeiror) moduels for Airbus simulations in FS. I like the way Boeing does system handling simply better. Plus I am used to it. Currently reading the manual (the almanach...?) for A-10, and already feeling more at home within the sim, than I ever would feel in a Russian avionics package. The way systems and their handling are designed just are more familiar to me, from other sims over the past 12 years, including F4, of course.

Skybird · 07-22-11, 11:58 AM

Hehehe, it is the 737.

However, despite having shot myself in the leg, what I said in principle stays true. Only that the PMDG-737 for FS9 is many years old, and never became a favourite of mine, due to it having several issues that never got resolved. The new iFly 737 is much, much better. However, PMDG has redone the 737 for FSX from scratch, and not just "translated" the old FS9 packge, so the FS9 version in no way should be seen as a hint for the quality of the FSX version now.

FS9 users will not see this new plane, so they are left with the iFly 737 anyway. From the video, the FSX 737 looks like a prime argument to get and try FSX, too. Fantastic.

Arclight · 07-22-11, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

... PMDG has redone the 737 for FSX from scratch, and not just "translated" the old FS9 packge, so the FS9 version in no way should be seen as a hint for the quality of the FSX version now.

FS9 users will not see this new plane, so they are left with the iFly 737 anyway. From the video, the FSX 737 looks like a prime argument to get and try FSX, too. Fantastic.

That. Quite impressed with what they showed in the videos. I don't own any paid-for modules for any FS game (and I agree what MS delivers is rather light for a sim), but I've seen and read enough about them to recognise this as something special.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

This is not to reduce the fame of DCS simulations.

Mmm lets not even go there. DCS is at some point limited due to the fact some systems are classified and therefore can not be modeled 100% accurately. It sets out for the same goal: to model a given platform in as much detail as possible, but you still end up comparing a combat aircraft to a jetliner. With that restriction in mind, the comparison kinda falls apart imho.

(And yes, The A-10 doesn't give me nearly as much as a headache as the Ka-50. It's a lovely thing, but wrapping your head around it is far from intuitive.)

Herr-Berbunch · 08-02-11, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

(And yes, The A-10 doesn't give me nearly as much as a headache as the Ka-50. It's a lovely thing, but wrapping your head around it is far from intuitive.)

I'll say!

Skybird · 10-11-11, 05:31 PM

Nick has done two more videos on the 737.

The two videos Stormfly originally started with, are also available at Youtube.

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(At Youtube you can quickjump to parts of the movie that have not yet been cached, at Vimeo you cannot do that)

All videos in HD.

Skybird · 10-11-11, 05:41 PM

The HUD in action - from the simulation, not reality...!

And one night landing at Brussel. I had to look twice to be sure that it was no real multi million harware cabin simulator!

Skybird · 10-29-11, 03:00 PM

Service Pack 1 for 800/900 released. Also: the 737-addon 600/700 released.

Aerosoft marks release of the boxed 800/900 for November 25th (in Germany at least), for 60 Taler.

Oberon · 10-29-11, 04:40 PM

My god...that is beautiful. I'm going to have to look into this, I think.

Skybird · 10-31-11, 09:55 AM

German Amazon now has the same release date, but 10 Euros less in price. I just pre-ordered.

And here is a 45 minute tutorial in German (!), and with 1080 resolution!, showing a cockpit actiovity from pushback and Frankfurt 'til Landing at Paderborn. Gives a very good impression even if you do not understand German (he just explains what he actually is doing and what it is).

Skybird · 10-31-11, 10:23 AM

And this one for the beauty of graphical detail.

eddie · 10-31-11, 12:23 PM

If you want to really get "as real as it gets" skybird, then try your 737 in this upgraded version of FSX, by Lockheed Martin! For a small fee of $500.00, your 737 will be in a brand new flightsim world! The 737 looks great BTW!

http://www.prepar3d.com/

Arclight · 10-31-11, 12:58 PM

And you still will only turn knobs on the autopilot for 90% of the time.

Skybird · 11-19-11, 05:46 AM

DVD release at least in Germany delayed until December 9th.

07-22-11, 07:32 AM	#1
Stormfly Serial Port Protector Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,424 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	PMDG 737-X about taking DCS A-10`s sim throne ? PMDG 737-X about taking DCS A-10`s sim throne ? ...check new videos here (over 1h lenght each) http://vimeo.com/26700490 http://vimeo.com/26693770 __________________ Stormy......

07-22-11, 08:55 AM	#2
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Think I'm in love... this for FS9? FSX? Ah nvm, FSX it is: http://www.precisionmanuals.com/pages/product/ngx.html __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

07-22-11, 11:52 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	PMDG's 747 is available for FS9 since years and has now been carried over to FSX. For FS9, it is usually been seen as one of the three or four most sophisticated packages for FS9, beside the 767 by Level-D, the ATR-72-500 by Flight1, and recently the 737 by iFly. Knowing all the mntioned titles for FS9 myself, I can only say that it is packages like this that do justice to the claim that Microsoft's software can be used as a simulator indeed. Because what Microsoft delivers in the box by default, is not so much a simulation, but a game. The big advanatge of it is it strictly modular conception. And by exchanging all the modules that come out of the box, and replacing them with more sophisticated modules for cockpit functionality, weather, environment etc etc, you can turn a game into a sim, using FS only as kind of a framework to keep all the new modules linked together and interacting with each other. The PMDG 747 is plenty of fun, and plenty of studying, especially if these kind of addons are new to you. This is not to reduce the fame of DCS simulations. Getting A-10 next week, and knowing Black Shark so far, I do not say at all they are any less worthy simulation. In fact Black shark still gives me more prblems to master, than any other flightsim. Those Russian systems simply are not up to my taste, and I am also not used to their handling design philosophy. A problem I already had with the cockpit of Flanker 2.0/2.5. I even struggled when trying (infeiror) moduels for Airbus simulations in FS. I like the way Boeing does system handling simply better. Plus I am used to it. Currently reading the manual (the almanach...?) for A-10, and already feeling more at home within the sim, than I ever would feel in a Russian avionics package. The way systems and their handling are designed just are more familiar to me, from other sims over the past 12 years, including F4, of course. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-22-11, 11:58 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Hehehe, it is the 737. However, despite having shot myself in the leg, what I said in principle stays true. Only that the PMDG-737 for FS9 is many years old, and never became a favourite of mine, due to it having several issues that never got resolved. The new iFly 737 is much, much better. However, PMDG has redone the 737 for FSX from scratch, and not just "translated" the old FS9 packge, so the FS9 version in no way should be seen as a hint for the quality of the FSX version now. FS9 users will not see this new plane, so they are left with the iFly 737 anyway. From the video, the FSX 737 looks like a prime argument to get and try FSX, too. Fantastic. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-22-11 at 12:13 PM.

10-11-11, 05:31 PM	#7
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Nick has done two more videos on the 737. The two videos Stormfly originally started with, are also available at Youtube. . (At Youtube you can quickjump to parts of the movie that have not yet been cached, at Vimeo you cannot do that) All videos in HD. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-11-11, 05:41 PM	#8
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The HUD in action - from the simulation, not reality...! And one night landing at Brussel. I had to look twice to be sure that it was no real multi million harware cabin simulator! __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-29-11, 03:00 PM	#9
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Service Pack 1 for 800/900 released. Also: the 737-addon 600/700 released. Aerosoft marks release of the boxed 800/900 for November 25th (in Germany at least), for 60 Taler. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-29-11 at 06:57 PM.

10-29-11, 04:40 PM	#10
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	My god...that is beautiful. I'm going to have to look into this, I think.

10-31-11, 09:55 AM	#11
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	German Amazon now has the same release date, but 10 Euros less in price. I just pre-ordered. And here is a 45 minute tutorial in German (!), and with 1080 resolution!, showing a cockpit actiovity from pushback and Frankfurt 'til Landing at Paderborn. Gives a very good impression even if you do not understand German (he just explains what he actually is doing and what it is). __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 10-31-11 at 10:16 AM.

10-31-11, 10:23 AM	#12
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	And this one for the beauty of graphical detail. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

10-31-11, 12:23 PM	#13
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	If you want to really get "as real as it gets" skybird, then try your 737 in this upgraded version of FSX, by Lockheed Martin! For a small fee of $500.00, your 737 will be in a brand new flightsim world! The 737 looks great BTW! http://www.prepar3d.com/ __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

10-31-11, 12:58 PM	#14
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	And you still will only turn knobs on the autopilot for 90% of the time. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

11-19-11, 05:46 AM	#15
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,471 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	DVD release at least in Germany delayed until December 9th. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.