[REL] BLACK SEA. «30 Unterseebootflottille»

Poul · 07-30-10, 05:46 AM

HISTORY of 30th FLOTILLA. BLACK SEA.

Only for mod «GWX 3.0 Gold».
Only operations on Black sea.

In «Silent Hunter III» this theme is very badly made. For example, at east coast of Black sea the Soviet bases were on distance of 15-20 km from each other. In the project «Sillent Hunter» them only three! Besides - their names are mixed. Dates of operations are incorrectly made. And many other things about Black sea 1942-1944. It is strange! Magnificent "Silent Hunter III", has been made by guys of Romania. 12 Romanian submarines participated in operations of Black sea (and one Italian submarine). But they have told nothing about it. And about many other things also.

I was in these areas. I have many times dived into the sea near to east coast. From Sukhumi to Sochi. I have many times dived into the sea near to coast of Crimea. I have plunged into these waters. I saw this sea-bottom. This theme is interesting to me.

Therefore I have made this project.

It is analogue of my projects:

«Mediterranean: Sea All Battles» - about fights 23 and 29th flotilla in Mediterranean sea and

«Red Baltic» - about fights at capture of the Baltic coast, Moonzud archipelago and gulf of Finland.

All operations real. All actions, events, dates and time - too historically authentic. I worked with this project more half a year. Used many the historical literature, archives, memoirs.

Tactics of German submarines on Black sea:

They approached to east coast. Communications along the Caucasian coast were under a strong covering. Submarines a lot of time were to depth. As it rescued them from blows of the Soviet planes. They emerged on depth of a periscope when heard noise of ship propellers. Very often - one ship was accompanied by many ships охранения. Therefore it was necessary to attack on the big distance. Submarines operated in the conditions of the absolute control from air and strong anti-submarine defence on the Soviet communications.

Especially on approaches to ports of basing of the Soviet Navy fleet on Black sea:

Gelendjik, Tuapse, Poti, Batum, Novorossisk (after September, 16th, 1943).

But no German submarine of 30th flotilla has been sunk by the ships of the Soviet anti-submarine defence.

«U-9» has been sunk in Constance by the Soviet aircraft on August, 20th, 1944.
(In game you can see it after August, 20th: 500 metres on the east from a pier in Constance on depth of 17 metres.)

«U-18» and «U-24» — are flooded in Constance by the crews five days later, on August, 25th.
(In game you can see them after August, 25th: 6.2 km on the east from Constance on depth of 28 metres.)

«U-19», «U-20», «U-23» - Other three boats have been flooded by the crews on September, 10th, 1944 at coast of Turkey in connection with capture by the Soviet Armies of all ports at coast of Black sea.
(In game you can see them after September, 10th: three km on the north from Turkish port Zonguldak On depth of 160 metres. If you can survive before this date.).

What the new?

The main thing - historical real dates of events and seaports new. Real co-ordinates and names of ports at east coasts of Black sea and sea of Azov. Also at coasts of Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria.

Two new German sea bases: Feodosiya and Sevastopol. It historically originally. From the middle 1943 some submarines Were based there. You will be moved there to corresponding time.

On a map of the navigator now there are names of islands and new harbours. They are very important for historical reliability. There there will
be real operations. In due time. New harbours are present at game too. There the ships. Movement and protection in ports. Coastal artillery.
Waterway. Mines and nets. Only there are no port buildings. But they symbolically have a floating beacon.

Sound: on rafts seamen shout in Russian.

Users of Russian variant of this project will have possibility to accept the radiogramms. In Russian. There they will receive all necessary updatings and orders from the Commander of 30th flotilla. And always to be in a proper place in due time. Also dates and time of all events. Real historical time of all exits in campaigns and returnings from campaigns of all submarines of 30th flotilla. Also their adventures.

But I the disgusting expert of English language. I cannot make a clear translation into English.

Black Sea (Engl):

http://www.mediafire.com/?0w3om5r7in9c58o

Russian variant - Black Sea (Ru):

http://www.mediafire.com/?i8z7385b4c5zf8v

makman94 · 07-30-10, 07:06 AM

A big thank you Poul !
i enjoyed very much the ''Mediterranean: Sea All Battles'' when you released it !
for me ,your mods are 'must have' mods
very good job

.

ps: just for my mod collection : did you (or someone else) ever made an english version of your ''Red_Baltic_is_1941_year'' ?

Jankowski · 07-30-10, 07:24 AM

sounds intresting! i especcially like the extra etails of the sunken submarines! i cant wait to try it out!

Poul · 07-30-10, 09:45 AM

Thanks, Jankowski. I hope - this mod will be interesting to you!

Thanks, makman94 for your good words about "Mediterranean: _ Sea_All_Battles". This opinion of the person which lives in Mediterranean sea. It is very valuable to me! It means that I there have made few errors! I hope that "Black_Sea" will not disappoint also. "Red_Baltic_is_1941_year" have erased from FailFront. But if it is interesting that - I will load this project again.

makman94 · 08-03-10, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poul

.... "Red_Baltic_is_1941_year" have erased from FailFront. But if it is interesting that - I will load this project again...

you don't understand me Poul ! i have the "Red_Baltic_is_1941_year".is there other version ? i am asking you if there is an ENGLISH version of red baltic

and also if there ever made by you (or others) a FULL ENGLISH messages for all years at ''Mediterranean_Sea_All_Battles_(Engl)''.

bye

GOZO · 08-03-10, 05:40 PM

Dear Poul,

This IS one of the coolest campaign mods in SHIII ever. A brief history covering an intense land campaign where the German navy actually played an important role with the little canoes.

Soo cool. I will make the mod mandatory for our R-P gaming site, "The Wolves at war" in its 5:th version soon to start up.

Great work matey!!!

Cheers

/Per

Jankowski · 08-04-10, 07:08 AM

my internet has been acting funny, so i havnt been able to download it. but could you post some pics of this mod/campaign up?

Borgneface · 08-05-10, 02:56 PM

Hello Poul,
I am going to try your Black sea campaign looks fantastic.
Just one question...
Tere is a folder called "Maps" where must i copy this folder, I caanot find the installation instruction for this?

Kind regards et merci

Poul · 08-06-10, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makman94

you don't understand me Poul ! i have the "Red_Baltic_is_1941_year".is there other version ? i am asking you if there is an ENGLISH version of red baltic

and also if there ever made by you (or others) a FULL ENGLISH messages for all years at ''Mediterranean_Sea_All_Battles_(Engl)''.

bye

OK. Is not present - nobody did English versions "FULL ENGLISH messages" for these mods.

Poul · 08-06-10, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GOZO

Dear Poul,

This IS one of the coolest campaign mods in SHIII ever. A brief history covering an intense land campaign where the German navy actually played an important role with the little canoes.

Soo cool. I will make the mod mandatory for our R-P gaming site, "The Wolves at war" in its 5:th version soon to start up.

Great work matey!!!

Cheers

/Per

Thanks. It is very pleasant.

Poul · 08-06-10, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jankowski

my internet has been acting funny, so i havnt been able to download it. but could you post some pics of this mod/campaign up?

But it is usual pictures for SH3: aviation attacks, deep bombs, maneuvers of evasion from bombardment from destroyers. "Routine" of a fighting life of submariners.

Poul · 08-06-10, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgneface

Hello Poul,
I am going to try your Black sea campaign looks fantastic.
Just one question...
Tere is a folder called "Maps" where must i copy this folder, I caanot find the installation instruction for this?

Kind regards et merci

No, no. These maps not for installation. These simply information on areas of battles of the Black Sea theater. But I can place and them in game. They will be visible on a map of the navigator. Instead of tables for calculations of speed.

Borgneface · 08-06-10, 05:40 AM

Salute Poul,
Thank you very much for your fast reply. I will start the campaign this week end

Amicalement

Borgneface · 08-07-10, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Borgneface

Salute Poul,
Thank you very much for your fast reply. I will start the campaign this week end

Amicalement

This might sound a silly question, But is started the black sea campaign ylast night. I had printed all the maps with names in Russian, not a problem...but for the 1st patrol I need to patrol Grid OST.....does it mean the EAST part of the map (10.1942 Tuapse Batu area? Cause their is no grid with number ort names on the maps?
Merci

Magic1111 · 08-07-10, 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poul

But it is usual pictures for SH3: aviation attacks, deep bombs, maneuvers of evasion from bombardment from destroyers. "Routine" of a fighting life of submariners.

Hello Poul !

Short question to the above pictures:

What did you use for an Environment MOD ? It looks really nice !

Best regards,
Magic

07-30-10, 05:46 AM	#1
Poul Machinist's Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kazakhstan Posts: 125 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	[REL] BLACK SEA. «30 Unterseebootflottille» HISTORY of 30th FLOTILLA. BLACK SEA. Only for mod «GWX 3.0 Gold». Only operations on Black sea. In «Silent Hunter III» this theme is very badly made. For example, at east coast of Black sea the Soviet bases were on distance of 15-20 km from each other. In the project «Sillent Hunter» them only three! Besides - their names are mixed. Dates of operations are incorrectly made. And many other things about Black sea 1942-1944. It is strange! Magnificent "Silent Hunter III", has been made by guys of Romania. 12 Romanian submarines participated in operations of Black sea (and one Italian submarine). But they have told nothing about it. And about many other things also. I was in these areas. I have many times dived into the sea near to east coast. From Sukhumi to Sochi. I have many times dived into the sea near to coast of Crimea. I have plunged into these waters. I saw this sea-bottom. This theme is interesting to me. Therefore I have made this project. It is analogue of my projects: «Mediterranean: Sea All Battles» - about fights 23 and 29th flotilla in Mediterranean sea and «Red Baltic» - about fights at capture of the Baltic coast, Moonzud archipelago and gulf of Finland. All operations real. All actions, events, dates and time - too historically authentic. I worked with this project more half a year. Used many the historical literature, archives, memoirs. Tactics of German submarines on Black sea: They approached to east coast. Communications along the Caucasian coast were under a strong covering. Submarines a lot of time were to depth. As it rescued them from blows of the Soviet planes. They emerged on depth of a periscope when heard noise of ship propellers. Very often - one ship was accompanied by many ships охранения. Therefore it was necessary to attack on the big distance. Submarines operated in the conditions of the absolute control from air and strong anti-submarine defence on the Soviet communications. Especially on approaches to ports of basing of the Soviet Navy fleet on Black sea: Gelendjik, Tuapse, Poti, Batum, Novorossisk (after September, 16th, 1943). But no German submarine of 30th flotilla has been sunk by the ships of the Soviet anti-submarine defence. «U-9» has been sunk in Constance by the Soviet aircraft on August, 20th, 1944. (In game you can see it after August, 20th: 500 metres on the east from a pier in Constance on depth of 17 metres.) «U-18» and «U-24» — are flooded in Constance by the crews five days later, on August, 25th. (In game you can see them after August, 25th: 6.2 km on the east from Constance on depth of 28 metres.) «U-19», «U-20», «U-23» - Other three boats have been flooded by the crews on September, 10th, 1944 at coast of Turkey in connection with capture by the Soviet Armies of all ports at coast of Black sea. (In game you can see them after September, 10th: three km on the north from Turkish port Zonguldak On depth of 160 metres. If you can survive before this date.). What the new? The main thing - historical real dates of events and seaports new. Real co-ordinates and names of ports at east coasts of Black sea and sea of Azov. Also at coasts of Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria. Two new German sea bases: Feodosiya and Sevastopol. It historically originally. From the middle 1943 some submarines Were based there. You will be moved there to corresponding time. On a map of the navigator now there are names of islands and new harbours. They are very important for historical reliability. There there will be real operations. In due time. New harbours are present at game too. There the ships. Movement and protection in ports. Coastal artillery. Waterway. Mines and nets. Only there are no port buildings. But they symbolically have a floating beacon. Sound: on rafts seamen shout in Russian. Users of Russian variant of this project will have possibility to accept the radiogramms. In Russian. There they will receive all necessary updatings and orders from the Commander of 30th flotilla. And always to be in a proper place in due time. Also dates and time of all events. Real historical time of all exits in campaigns and returnings from campaigns of all submarines of 30th flotilla. Also their adventures. But I the disgusting expert of English language. I cannot make a clear translation into English. Black Sea (Engl): http://www.mediafire.com/?0w3om5r7in9c58o Russian variant - Black Sea (Ru): http://www.mediafire.com/?i8z7385b4c5zf8v

07-30-10, 07:06 AM	#2
makman94 Hellas Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,325 Downloads: 182 Uploads: 7	A big thank you Poul ! i enjoyed very much the ''Mediterranean: Sea All Battles'' when you released it ! for me ,your mods are 'must have' mods very good job . ps: just for my mod collection : did you (or someone else) ever made an english version of your ''Red_Baltic_is_1941_year'' ? __________________ Knowledge is the only thing that nobody can ever take from you... Mediafire page:http://www.mediafire.com/folder/da50.../Makman94_Mods

08-03-10, 05:40 PM	#6
GOZO Commander Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Linkoping, Sweden Posts: 478 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 0	Dear Poul, This IS one of the coolest campaign mods in SHIII ever. A brief history covering an intense land campaign where the German navy actually played an important role with the little canoes. Soo cool. I will make the mod mandatory for our R-P gaming site, "The Wolves at war" in its 5:th version soon to start up. Great work matey!!! Cheers /Per __________________ SHIV:TMo 2.5, RSRD, SCAF OLC, Ralle's modpack SHIV: WDAD, Med Campaign SHIII: GWX3 GOLD, OLCII Gold, ACM-reloaded interface mod, SHIIIcmndr 3.2, Full Realism/DiD SHIII: LSH3 2015 Cold Waters with all bells and whistles Finally SHV but still unmodded and still a noob....

08-05-10, 02:56 PM	#8
Borgneface Captain Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Near La Rochelle - On board U-205 Posts: 519 Downloads: 657 Uploads: 0	Hello Poul, I am going to try your Black sea campaign looks fantastic. Just one question... Tere is a folder called "Maps" where must i copy this folder, I caanot find the installation instruction for this? Kind regards et merci __________________ Borgneface

08-06-10, 05:40 AM	#13
Borgneface Captain Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Near La Rochelle - On board U-205 Posts: 519 Downloads: 657 Uploads: 0	Salute Poul, Thank you very much for your fast reply. I will start the campaign this week end Amicalement __________________ Borgneface

07-30-10, 07:24 AM	#3
Jankowski Frogman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 306 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	sounds intresting! i especcially like the extra etails of the sunken submarines! i cant wait to try it out!

07-30-10, 09:45 AM	#4
Poul Machinist's Mate Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kazakhstan Posts: 125 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Thanks, Jankowski. I hope - this mod will be interesting to you! Thanks, makman94 for your good words about "Mediterranean: _ Sea_All_Battles". This opinion of the person which lives in Mediterranean sea. It is very valuable to me! It means that I there have made few errors! I hope that "Black_Sea" will not disappoint also. "Red_Baltic_is_1941_year" have erased from FailFront. But if it is interesting that - I will load this project again.

08-04-10, 07:08 AM	#7
Jankowski Frogman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 306 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	my internet has been acting funny, so i havnt been able to download it. but could you post some pics of this mod/campaign up?