GER politics thread - Page 92

Skybird · 07-15-21, 06:53 AM

Some more.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/15/e...ntl/index.html

Where they are now, my hometown has been seven years ago. I still had kind of luck and had the water knees-deep in the cellar, one door further the neighbouring house: water in the basement up to the shoulder and higher. Costed me a good part of my library.

Catfish · 07-15-21, 08:19 AM

I did not know it had been that bad

. Seems we here in the northern flatlands were lucky this time ..

mapuc · 07-15-21, 08:47 AM

Here on our island and in the rest of Denmark we are melting in the heat.
They have promised rain and thunder during the day though

Markus

Skybird · 07-15-21, 08:53 AM

At least 45 dead. At least 75 missing.

Skybird · 07-15-21, 09:49 AM

However, there is something positive in all this mess, and I mean that serious. The deep ground water levels and deep soil reservoirs in the West should be filled up, and the soil should be soaking wet, which must be a great relief to nature, trees and life. I see since two years how the Teutoburger forest, the small remains of it that is, are in a terrible, depressing state, with huge areas being plowed under and cut down due to need (dry weather, parasites). Last year on my first bicycle tours into the region, I did not recongiose some places anymore, and this year it even was worse, and new such places had been added. Terrible. It could make you cry. This water flood will not help the damage done to forest already, but slow down the death of the remaining forest by one or two years. A delay.

But the dry summers of the past three years in the main have affected the East of Germany much more serious, and unfortunately the East did not get much rain at all.

In the coming near future, pratcically all forests in Germany will be needed to get cut and repklaced with other tree species more robust to withstand the hotter lcimate here. This measn that many animals, esoecially squirrels

, will not have trees feeding them and giving them places to live for decades tio come. Thats why I say that red squirrels will dissappear in German ywithin the coming 20 years or so, and will be replaced with the expanding population of Greys form Italy and Switzerland. And again it could make you cry. By the end of this century sciurus vuilgaris will be found only in regions in the far North and Russia anymore, I think. In Europe, it will be gone. It could suriviv einc tiies, but there it will be driven out by the Greys, like in the forests.

Skybird · 07-15-21, 03:04 PM

A river dam threatens to break. Towns down the river are being evacuated since early afternoon. I saw images of it, it looks as if Godzilla had his prank stroking the dam, leaving scars from his claws. Doesn't look good, this could get become ugly. Very.

58 dead now. Many more missing.

In some of the devastated regions it has started to rain again. Heavily.

The low pressure zone does almost not move at all, stays in place. The same problem that causes the fires in America'S West: jetstream weakened due to warming at the poles and lacking global temperature contrasts, not moving the air pressure zones sufficiently around, so they stay in place, may they hold heat, may they hold water.

Catfish · 07-16-21, 02:09 AM

I heard there are a thousand people missing, though it is not clear whether they just cannot answer due to the breakdown of telecommunication in the areas, but it looks bad indeed.

Skybird · 07-16-21, 03:12 AM

Minimum 81 dead, minimum 1300 missing.

Skybird · 07-16-21, 04:57 AM

The counter is ticking upwards. In human sacrifices, this is much worse than the Elbe "century flooding" 2002.

Skybird · 07-21-21, 07:21 AM

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...raine-78951757

Nordstream 2 has been agreed to to get finished. Nobody is really happy, apparently, but it was out of the question to really expect Germany and Russia would stop it. The US squeezed out concessions that were in the game, and not more. After all, this never has been their business to stick their nose into.

What worriesd me more is recent info on how Russia uses pipelines like this for anti-sub sonar detection. This has so far playe dno role at all in debates, not from the German, not from the American, not from the EU or NATO sides. Either it is just science fiction, or they again suffered a major intellectual fail, them alltogether.

Catfish · 07-21-21, 01:29 PM

^ well i take it the Russians will be very frightened by the six german subs from which 4 are always in repair .. an attack on Russia via the baltic would be unwise to say at least, as would be a russian invasion via this pond.
I also take it the technical control of the pipeline will not only be in russian hands.

mapuc · 07-21-21, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

^ well i take it the Russians will be very frightened by the six german subs from which 4 are always in repair .. an attack on Russia via the baltic would be unwise to say at least, as would be a russian invasion via this pond.
I also take it the technical control of the pipeline will not only be in russian hands.

I don't think Russia should fear Germany On the other hand I think Russia has their attention pointed in another directions.

Neither Germany or Russia is interested in a conflict.

Markus

Skybird · 07-21-21, 03:27 PM

There are the Swedish subs, too - very silent ones.

The issue, the technical side, also affects the Black Sea.

Needless to say: a sonar system capable to track submarines also is potent enough to track all surface traffic, civilian and military, as well.

I posted a link some weeks ago. But the authors of the alarm all are three ukrainian experts who of course also are suspicous to act on behalf of the interests of the Ukraine.

Again, the link, whatever the story may be worth:
https://www.nzz.ch/meinung/nord-stre...zen-ld.1634007

Quote:

The Russian side of course dismissed the publication as an attempt to sabotage Nord Stream 2. Marine experts in Germany and NATO, on the other hand, take the problem very seriously. Nord Stream 2 is understood there as a gigantic chain of sensors that can be used by the military and that can become critical in the event of a crisis. The federal government neglects this aspect, however, because this skepticism does not fit into the policy of the federal government.

The autors say that the Russian ambitions do not stop at sonar surveillance, but that these are part of a bigger project for increasing capability of naval non-conventional warfare that aims at interrupting cable and pipeline connections for information and ressource transportation, communication, etc. Ironically the project name is "Harmony".

Skybird · 07-22-21, 01:16 AM

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/21/p...eal/index.html

Skybird · 07-23-21, 07:00 PM

Random find of the day.

"A country whose government wants to prevent global warming by more than two degrees in a hundred years, and ignores the warning of 200 liters rain per square meter for the next day, has one thing above all: a serious problem with reality."

From Roger Letsch's blog:
https://unbesorgt.de/die-uebermorgen...euteschlaefer/

07-15-21, 06:53 AM	#1366
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Some more. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/15/e...ntl/index.html Where they are now, my hometown has been seven years ago. I still had kind of luck and had the water knees-deep in the cellar, one door further the neighbouring house: water in the basement up to the shoulder and higher. Costed me a good part of my library. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-15-21 at 07:07 AM.

07-15-21, 08:19 AM	#1367
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,892 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I did not know it had been that bad . Seems we here in the northern flatlands were lucky this time .. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

07-15-21, 08:47 AM	#1368
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,836 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Here on our island and in the rest of Denmark we are melting in the heat. They have promised rain and thunder during the day though Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

07-15-21, 08:53 AM	#1369
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	At least 45 dead. At least 75 missing. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-15-21, 09:49 AM	#1370
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	However, there is something positive in all this mess, and I mean that serious. The deep ground water levels and deep soil reservoirs in the West should be filled up, and the soil should be soaking wet, which must be a great relief to nature, trees and life. I see since two years how the Teutoburger forest, the small remains of it that is, are in a terrible, depressing state, with huge areas being plowed under and cut down due to need (dry weather, parasites). Last year on my first bicycle tours into the region, I did not recongiose some places anymore, and this year it even was worse, and new such places had been added. Terrible. It could make you cry. This water flood will not help the damage done to forest already, but slow down the death of the remaining forest by one or two years. A delay. But the dry summers of the past three years in the main have affected the East of Germany much more serious, and unfortunately the East did not get much rain at all. In the coming near future, pratcically all forests in Germany will be needed to get cut and repklaced with other tree species more robust to withstand the hotter lcimate here. This measn that many animals, esoecially squirrels , will not have trees feeding them and giving them places to live for decades tio come. Thats why I say that red squirrels will dissappear in German ywithin the coming 20 years or so, and will be replaced with the expanding population of Greys form Italy and Switzerland. And again it could make you cry. By the end of this century sciurus vuilgaris will be found only in regions in the far North and Russia anymore, I think. In Europe, it will be gone. It could suriviv einc tiies, but there it will be driven out by the Greys, like in the forests. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-15-21, 03:04 PM	#1371
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	A river dam threatens to break. Towns down the river are being evacuated since early afternoon. I saw images of it, it looks as if Godzilla had his prank stroking the dam, leaving scars from his claws. Doesn't look good, this could get become ugly. Very. 58 dead now. Many more missing. In some of the devastated regions it has started to rain again. Heavily. The low pressure zone does almost not move at all, stays in place. The same problem that causes the fires in America'S West: jetstream weakened due to warming at the poles and lacking global temperature contrasts, not moving the air pressure zones sufficiently around, so they stay in place, may they hold heat, may they hold water. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-16-21, 02:09 AM	#1372
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,892 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	I heard there are a thousand people missing, though it is not clear whether they just cannot answer due to the breakdown of telecommunication in the areas, but it looks bad indeed. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

07-16-21, 03:12 AM	#1373
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Minimum 81 dead, minimum 1300 missing. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-16-21 at 05:06 AM.

07-16-21, 04:57 AM	#1374
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	The counter is ticking upwards. In human sacrifices, this is much worse than the Elbe "century flooding" 2002. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 07-16-21 at 05:09 AM.

07-21-21, 07:21 AM	#1375
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...raine-78951757 Nordstream 2 has been agreed to to get finished. Nobody is really happy, apparently, but it was out of the question to really expect Germany and Russia would stop it. The US squeezed out concessions that were in the game, and not more. After all, this never has been their business to stick their nose into. What worriesd me more is recent info on how Russia uses pipelines like this for anti-sub sonar detection. This has so far playe dno role at all in debates, not from the German, not from the American, not from the EU or NATO sides. Either it is just science fiction, or they again suffered a major intellectual fail, them alltogether. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-21-21, 01:29 PM	#1376
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,892 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ well i take it the Russians will be very frightened by the six german subs from which 4 are always in repair .. an attack on Russia via the baltic would be unwise to say at least, as would be a russian invasion via this pond. I also take it the technical control of the pipeline will not only be in russian hands. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

07-22-21, 01:16 AM	#1379
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/21/p...eal/index.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-23-21, 07:00 PM	#1380
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,458 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Random find of the day. "A country whose government wants to prevent global warming by more than two degrees in a hundred years, and ignores the warning of 200 liters rain per square meter for the next day, has one thing above all: a serious problem with reality." From Roger Letsch's blog: https://unbesorgt.de/die-uebermorgen...euteschlaefer/ __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.