Afghanistan deadline

[3catcircus]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Would China make a different. Here I'am thinking. The government in Kabul is under pressure from Taliban so they speed up the agreement with the Chinese.

This in hope the Chinese would send troops to protect Chinese workers.

Markus

China doesn't care who is running Afghan. They'll deal with the current regime or a Taliban-run one, so long as they can run a pipeline or access to natural resources. The difference is that unlike westerners, the CHICOMs have decades of oppressing Muslims to draw upon when dealing with them. That, and they don't give a hoot about the optics of razing Afghan villages and putting everyone to the proverbial sword.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by 3catcircus

China doesn't care who is running Afghan. They'll deal with the current regime or a Taliban-run one, so long as they can run a pipeline or access to natural resources. The difference is that unlike westerners, the CHICOMs have decades of oppressing Muslims to draw upon when dealing with them. That, and they don't give a hoot about the optics of razing Afghan villages and putting everyone to the proverbial sword.

Perhaps not, but all the talk is about infrastructure, not invasion, plus I don't see Iran, India, Pakistan, or Afganistan sitting around and letting that happen.

[Catfish]

"George W. Bush says ending U.S. military mission in Afghanistan is a mistake", for moral and humane reasons
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ake/ar-AAM92qF

"China could soon have an unlikely supporter in Central Asia -- the Taliban"
"Following the withdrawal of American troops from Afghanistan, the Taliban is again resurgent, taking control of great swathes of the country. The speed at which Afghan security forces have lost control to the Taliban has shocked many, and led to concerns the capital Kabul could be next to fall."
China is a welcome friend ..
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/07/14/a...hnk/index.html

[Moonlight]

The Afghan government and the Taliban welcome infrastructure improvements do they, I hope these people are not under the misapprehension that China is going to pay for it all because they're not.
Its going to be a loan, and when the loan repayments from the Afghans stop, so does the Chinese Company workers, well at least the Chinese won't be shooting at the Afghans as they'll be too busy financially shafting them instead.

COWBOY BUILDERS Roads to nowhere, abandoned railways and half-built bridges – China’s ‘debt traps’ schemes which cost nations BILLIONS

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/154935...na-debt-traps/

[Otto Harkaman]

Interesting twisting bits of logic in this article from Pravda

Turkey plans to reach an agreement with the Taliban* to threaten Russia

The Taliban* threatens Turkey, but they will find common language some day, and Turkey will have an opportunity to control and influence many countries, including the countries of the former Soviet Union, expert Yuri Knutov believes.

https://english.pravda.ru/world/21111-turkey_taliban/

[Skybird]

And the Sultan's next attempt to bite off a bigger bit than he can chew. It will fail like the ones before. Clear symptoms of megalomania. Not that they are a first.

[Rockstar]

This was from a Middle East Institute article written in 2018.

“…Commentary in the Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corp outlets indicate that Iran’s support to the Taliban is aimed at expelling US and NATO forces from Afghanistan, particularly from western Afghan provinces. In addition, one IRGC news agency raised alarm about the “growing influence” of Arab Gulf states in western Afghanistan, specifically citing Saudi Arabia’s interest to help finance the Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) natural gas pipeline, which will connect Central Asia to South Asia through western Afghanistan. According to Afghan officials, Tehran wants to undermine the TAPI project because it rivals Iran's own regional pipeline project.”


Lots going on over there.

[mapuc]

One thing is certain, well I think it is

One day the entire Middle east, North Africa and parts of former Soviet will explode in huge regional war.

If it happens I wonder how NATO will act ? It would be pure speculations.

Markus

[Otto Harkaman]

Erdogan calls for US support for Turkey to protect Kabul airport

Turkey could run Afghan capital’s airport if US meets conditions on logistics and financing, President Erdogan says.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...-kabul-airport



Russia bewildered about Turkey protecting Kabul International Airport

The Russian Foreign Ministry is bewildered about the decision to deliver the mission to ensure security of the Kabul International Airport to Turkey after the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan.

https://english.pravda.ru/news/world...-turkey_kabul/

[Jimbuna]

I wonder what Erdogan's true motives are

[Otto Harkaman]

The Taliban explained
The armed group has emerged as a strong player as US-led foreign forces pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...iban-explained


The Taliban has set up a parallel state calling it the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan with their own white flag

[Jimbuna]

US airstrikes against the Taliban were carried out as recently as two or three days ago,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...an-airstrikes/

[Otto Harkaman]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

US airstrikes against the Taliban were carried out as recently as two or three days ago,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...an-airstrikes/

Asked by a reporter about news reports of a Navy FA-18 airstrike in the Kandahar area, Pentagon press secretary John Kirby did not confirm specifics, including the type of aircraft or location, but said, "In the last several days we have acted, through airstrikes, to support the ANDSF," using an acronym for the Afghan national defense and security forces. "But I won't get into technical details of those strikes."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...an-forces.html

These are the approximate positions of the U.S. Navy’s deployed carrier strike groups and amphibious ready groups throughout the world as of July 19, 2021, based on Navy and public data. In cases where a CSG or ARG is conducting disaggregated operations, the chart reflects the location of the capital ship.


https://news.usni.org/2021/07/19/usn...r-july-19-2021

Long drive to work

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Otto Harkaman

Asked by a reporter about news reports of a Navy FA-18 airstrike in the Kandahar area, Pentagon press secretary John Kirby did not confirm specifics, including the type of aircraft or location, but said, "In the last several days we have acted, through airstrikes, to support the ANDSF," using an acronym for the Afghan national defense and security forces. "But I won't get into technical details of those strikes."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/...an-forces.html

These are the approximate positions of the U.S. Navy’s deployed carrier strike groups and amphibious ready groups throughout the world as of July 19, 2021, based on Navy and public data. In cases where a CSG or ARG is conducting disaggregated operations, the chart reflects the location of the capital ship.


Long drive to work

We’ve also extended our reach a few years back with the ‘Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Understanding’ (LEMOA) with India who has graciously allowed use of a few of their naval ports and aiirfields at Adampur, Ambala, Chandigarh, Halwara, Hindan, Jaiselmer, Jamnagar, Jodhpur and Pathankot. Though its said only for logistics and fuel, latest scuttlebutt says other things have been going on too.

India

[Aktungbby]

All of which will augment our base at Diego Garcia....