[WIP] Candy for the eyes VII-D Playabel - Page 4

bigboywooly · 08-18-07, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SquareSteelBar

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

...but I cant find the mod which does it now

Steinbarsch Walter

danke SSB

Jimbuna · 08-18-07, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bigboywooly

Well heres a thought
Take the Steinbarsch Walter torp which isnt used ingame

[TORPEDO_TYPE10]; T VII - Steinbarsch Walter (G7ut)
Idx=10
Year=1944
Month=5
PrototypeYear=1943
PrototypMonth=12
Renown=500

It can be enabled but I cant find the mod which does it now

Make that the mine entry
Clone the torp that CB made and remodel the torp inside to look like a TMB

All needs to be done then is make that Steinbarsch Walter point to the new mine model

:rotfl:
Simple really

Nowt like keeping a 'captive audience'

soma · 08-18-07, 05:59 PM

Very nice! Also I love the skins!

Kpt. Lehmann · 08-18-07, 06:21 PM

I agree that using the Steinbarsch torpedo entry is best, as opposed to the widely used TII.

DarkFolle · 08-19-07, 10:59 AM

so...maybe this thing can be added to GWX 1.04? AAAAAAAAARRRRRFFFFFFFF

bigboywooly · 08-19-07, 11:14 AM

Too late for that now but a JSGME unit should work on any install providing done right

The Munster · 08-19-07, 03:13 PM

This is the info I have on the subject ..

The type VII D was a lengthened sub-variant of the successful type VII C battle submarine.
To enable it to transport and lay type SMA moored mines, a section with five mine silos each holding 3 SMA mines was incorporated behind the conning tower. This extended the overall length by 9.80m.
The six subs [U-213 - U218] were built at the Germania shipyard at Kiel and engaged in a total of 31 operations against the enemy, in which they sank 10 ships with a total of 42,622 GRT. Only U-218 survived the war and arrived in Bergen, Norway on 8.5.1945.

mr chris · 08-30-07, 02:50 PM

Any fresh news on this project?

Tomi_099 · 08-31-07, 03:00 AM

Hello of people!

For the moment I lost very much time,
because I wanted to bring out the boat with pennants.
Now I have a convering problem

(from Integer to Float32 and back )
Iwould like to wait for the version of Racerboy.
In addition I would have the boat with exhausts mod with the Racerboy in work am out-skillful.
Probably Racerboy is very busy.

With the mines I could not myself employ intensively yet.
It is in work.
:hmm:
I will re-tool thies days a boat on travel send ,and it gradually with your assistance.

Regards Tomi-099

TheDarkWraith · 08-31-07, 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi_099

Hello of people!

For the moment I lost very much time,
because I wanted to bring out the boat with pennants.
Now I have a convering problem

(from Integer to Float32 and back )
Iwould like to wait for the version of Racerboy.
In addition I would have the boat with exhausts mod with the Racerboy in work am out-skillful.
Probably Racerboy is very busy.

With the mines I could not myself employ intensively yet.
It is in work.
:hmm:
I will re-tool thies days a boat on travel send ,and it gradually with your assistance.

Regards Tomi-099

I am working on the Playable VII-D to give it exhaust smoke and the flags and pennants. Very busy isn't the word......
How can I help you with the mines? I would love to see this part of your VII-D work.

Tomi_099 · 08-31-07, 07:16 AM

:hmm: Now I think one having to go an English mine boat ( Destroyer )
under the magnifying glass take.
The mines are thrown in the water and go on the depth.
One must find out this part with hexeditor and insert in the submarine.
Indeed, should not fall minen down, but upwards swimmen.
Because the boat in the dipped one was entitled minen from the upwards eject .
Now should swim minen on the water surface what to share from Diving Duck has been done. This lasts one

:hmm:
This lasts gigantic advanced. I do not show whether one this can move.
-----
What do you think, this is possible???

bigboywooly · 08-31-07, 10:36 AM

Hi Tomi
The mines released by the VIID shouldnt float - The TMA was a floating mine but wasnt used after 1939
They should be shallow depth only ( 20-25m ) magnetic mines fired from the torp tubes like a torpedo
Only smaller in length

TMA

The TMA was a moored mine, which meant that it was secured by a heavy anchor and a cable attached to the mine. The mine floated above the surface, while the anchor secured its position in the sea. Two could be carried in each torpedo tube.
Length/Diameter: 11.1ft (3.38m)/21in (533mm)
Maximum Depth: 270m
Warhead: 215kg

It was redesigned as the TMC in late 1939

TMB

The TMB was a ground mine, which meant it settled at the bottom of the seabed. It was detonated by the magnetic or acoustic signature of a passing ship. For maximum effectiveness, it could be laid only in shallow waters of up to 20 meters. Three could be carried in each torpedo tube.
Length/Diameter: 7.6ft (2.3m)/21in (533mm)
Maximum Depth: 20m
Warhead: 580kg

DivingDuck · 08-31-07, 12:07 PM

Hey,

a pretty interesting thread indeed. Nice boat Tomi, congrats. Nice pic Alex

. Where the hell did you catch me?
I´m not up to date yet with all the new threads and topics, but this one seems to be outstanding.
BBW, can you tell how the mines have been deployed. Have they been released through the torpedo tubes? Did the TMA have an automated mooring mechanism, or did the boat carry scuba divers to moore them? But no matter how they have been used, the only 2 ways I can imagine is:

TMA-floating mines wihtout a securing anchor (holding position the same way as the buoys do)
TMB-ground settleing mines

Don´t know wether it is possible to make them surface after beeing released at a certain depth or make them sink to the bottom without getting destroyed. But that´s what I can imagine and would like to see in the end.

Regards,
DD

bigboywooly · 08-31-07, 12:29 PM

Hi DD
They used the TMB after 1939 anyway = 14 x torpedoes or 26 TBM mines and 15 x SMA mines
Fired through torp tubes same as a torp then settled on the seabed

The shafts behind the conning tower were for SMA mines

SMA (Schachtmine or Shaft mine) mines were designed to be laid by specially designed mine laying submarines equipped with vertical shafts. An anchored mine, of the same style as the TMA, SMA mines were 2.15 metres in length with a diameter of 1.33 metres. Type VIID and Type X U-boats were to be the principal U-boat carriers of this weapon. However, as the U-boats became operational it was found that an internal fault within SMA weapons would lead to premature detonation once deployed. An embargo was placed on their use until March 1943 when the problem had been rectified. U117 was the first U-boat to deploy the redesigned SMA off the Moroccan coast after transfer to Bordeaux's 12th U-Flotilla

http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMGER_Mines.htm

Tomi_099 · 08-31-07, 01:41 PM

GREATLY
( Grossartig!!! )

Diving Duck is also here.
A great reference I believes now can nevertheless nothing more
inclined go.
With such reference like bigboywooly and DD and Racerboy and the
others..... there a result must come nevertheless.:hmm:
I do not know which mines and how carrying out it in play for the eye
as for the player is also interesting.
In addition the conversion. I always am for a type of surviving for
the player. (malicious ones( Tückischen minen) the word on Englich does not
know that unfortunately.
No joy would make the player. I personally am for the rounds swimming
contact contacts you something from the water surface look there and
the players opportunity have to evade.
Now is there the TMB mines of bigboywooly which we last responded
(Steinbarsch walter) a solution.

We see forward which we transferring

can with your pover and know. I am still another beginner here
however with your assistance could it which become.

P.S: Best thanks on bigboywooly for the info.

(THANKS)

08-18-07, 05:59 PM	#48
soma A-ganger Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: breda, the netherlands Posts: 77 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very nice! Also I love the skins! __________________ Kretchmer is dead, Lüth is dead, Topp is dead, and I dont feel good also....

08-18-07, 06:21 PM	#49
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,875 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	I agree that using the Steinbarsch torpedo entry is best, as opposed to the widely used TII. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

08-19-07, 11:14 AM	#51
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Too late for that now but a JSGME unit should work on any install providing done right __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

08-19-07, 03:13 PM	#52
The Munster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Deepest Dumbria Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	This is the info I have on the subject .. The type VII D was a lengthened sub-variant of the successful type VII C battle submarine. To enable it to transport and lay type SMA moored mines, a section with five mine silos each holding 3 SMA mines was incorporated behind the conning tower. This extended the overall length by 9.80m. The six subs [U-213 - U218] were built at the Germania shipyard at Kiel and engaged in a total of 31 operations against the enemy, in which they sank 10 ships with a total of 42,622 GRT. Only U-218 survived the war and arrived in Bergen, Norway on 8.5.1945. __________________ *GWX Team Member; Retired* GWX Home Page

08-31-07, 03:00 AM	#54
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	Hello of people! For the moment I lost very much time, because I wanted to bring out the boat with pennants. Now I have a convering problem (from Integer to Float32 and back ) Iwould like to wait for the version of Racerboy. In addition I would have the boat with exhausts mod with the Racerboy in work am out-skillful. Probably Racerboy is very busy. With the mines I could not myself employ intensively yet. It is in work. :hmm: I will re-tool thies days a boat on travel send ,and it gradually with your assistance. Regards Tomi-099 Last edited by Tomi_099; 08-31-07 at 03:13 AM.

08-19-07, 10:59 AM	#50
DarkFolle A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 79 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	so...maybe this thing can be added to GWX 1.04? AAAAAAAAARRRRRFFFFFFFF

08-30-07, 02:50 PM	#53
mr chris Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herefordshire, England Posts: 3,562 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Any fresh news on this project?

08-31-07, 07:16 AM	#56
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	:hmm: Now I think one having to go an English mine boat ( Destroyer ) under the magnifying glass take. The mines are thrown in the water and go on the depth. One must find out this part with hexeditor and insert in the submarine. Indeed, should not fall minen down, but upwards swimmen. Because the boat in the dipped one was entitled minen from the upwards eject . Now should swim minen on the water surface what to share from Diving Duck has been done. This lasts one :hmm: This lasts gigantic advanced. I do not show whether one this can move. ----- What do you think, this is possible??? Last edited by Tomi_099; 08-31-07 at 08:49 AM.

08-31-07, 10:36 AM	#57
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Hi Tomi The mines released by the VIID shouldnt float - The TMA was a floating mine but wasnt used after 1939 They should be shallow depth only ( 20-25m ) magnetic mines fired from the torp tubes like a torpedo Only smaller in length TMA The TMA was a moored mine, which meant that it was secured by a heavy anchor and a cable attached to the mine. The mine floated above the surface, while the anchor secured its position in the sea. Two could be carried in each torpedo tube. Length/Diameter: 11.1ft (3.38m)/21in (533mm) Maximum Depth: 270m Warhead: 215kg It was redesigned as the TMC in late 1939 TMB The TMB was a ground mine, which meant it settled at the bottom of the seabed. It was detonated by the magnetic or acoustic signature of a passing ship. For maximum effectiveness, it could be laid only in shallow waters of up to 20 meters. Three could be carried in each torpedo tube. Length/Diameter: 7.6ft (2.3m)/21in (533mm) Maximum Depth: 20m Warhead: 580kg __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

08-31-07, 12:07 PM	#58
DivingDuck Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 902 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 1	Hey, a pretty interesting thread indeed. Nice boat Tomi, congrats. Nice pic Alex . Where the hell did you catch me? I´m not up to date yet with all the new threads and topics, but this one seems to be outstanding. BBW, can you tell how the mines have been deployed. Have they been released through the torpedo tubes? Did the TMA have an automated mooring mechanism, or did the boat carry scuba divers to moore them? But no matter how they have been used, the only 2 ways I can imagine is: TMA-floating mines wihtout a securing anchor (holding position the same way as the buoys do) TMB-ground settleing mines Don´t know wether it is possible to make them surface after beeing released at a certain depth or make them sink to the bottom without getting destroyed. But that´s what I can imagine and would like to see in the end. Regards, DD __________________ http://www.filefront.com/user/DivingDuck \| OpenHatch_V3_RH (SHIII)

08-31-07, 12:29 PM	#59
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Hi DD They used the TMB after 1939 anyway = 14 x torpedoes or 26 TBM mines and 15 x SMA mines Fired through torp tubes same as a torp then settled on the seabed The shafts behind the conning tower were for SMA mines SMA (Schachtmine or Shaft mine) mines were designed to be laid by specially designed mine laying submarines equipped with vertical shafts. An anchored mine, of the same style as the TMA, SMA mines were 2.15 metres in length with a diameter of 1.33 metres. Type VIID and Type X U-boats were to be the principal U-boat carriers of this weapon. However, as the U-boats became operational it was found that an internal fault within SMA weapons would lead to premature detonation once deployed. An embargo was placed on their use until March 1943 when the problem had been rectified. U117 was the first U-boat to deploy the redesigned SMA off the Moroccan coast after transfer to Bordeaux's 12th U-Flotilla http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMGER_Mines.htm __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41 Last edited by bigboywooly; 08-31-07 at 12:43 PM.

08-31-07, 01:41 PM	#60
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	Best thanks on bigboywooly for the info. (THANKS) GREATLY ( Grossartig!!! ) Diving Duck is also here. A great reference I believes now can nevertheless nothing more inclined go. With such reference like bigboywooly and DD and Racerboy and the others..... there a result must come nevertheless.:hmm: I do not know which mines and how carrying out it in play for the eye as for the player is also interesting. In addition the conversion. I always am for a type of surviving for the player. (malicious ones( Tückischen minen) the word on Englich does not know that unfortunately. No joy would make the player. I personally am for the rounds swimming contact contacts you something from the water surface look there and the players opportunity have to evade. Now is there the TMB mines of bigboywooly which we last responded (Steinbarsch walter) a solution. We see forward which we transferring can with your pover and know. I am still another beginner here however with your assistance could it which become. P.S: Best thanks on bigboywooly for the info. (THANKS)