[WIP] Trevally Tutorials (for TDWs UI)

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by plj

So yeah ... could someone please explain this ?

Mission: RAOBF tutorial mission

Target data:

Range: 1080m
Bearing: 221
AOB: 51
Speed: 0kts

Result: not even close, see attached jpg's. Notice settings, and verify with RAOBF wheel .. AOB is right for given ship length. AOB should be irrelevant tho, as speed is 0. Bearing is deffinately 221 .. unless I'm starting to become blind. Own course is 0.

If your are heading north and the ship is bearing 221 (behind you) - try using the stern tube
Everything else looks good

[plj]

Yeah, I just noticed

Any way to make this work with the forward tubes as well ? (not that there is a good reason too, just for theory's sake :p)

[plj]

Any reason I'm on CTD 4 now, loading RAOBF for the 7th time or so ? I went back to NewUI's 7.4.2 from 7.5.0 test 12 .. which did not allow to play tutorials due to automations cript not being compatible .. now it loads .. sometimes :/

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[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by plj

Any way to make this work with the forward tubes as well ? (not that there is a good reason too, just for theory's sake :p)

No - not really
The further away from a zero gyroangle - the more chance of a miss.
This is due to how the torp first turns (turning radius) the more the torp has to turn - the more precise the range must be.

So turn you boat to target for a higher % chance hit

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by plj

Any reason I'm on CTD 4 now, loading RAOBF for the 7th time or so ? I went back to NewUI's 7.4.2 from 7.5.0 test 12 .. which did not allow to play tutorials due to automations cript not being compatible .. now it loads .. sometimes :/

Sorry - that mod list just runs in front of my eyes

Try UI and tutorials only no ctds

[plj]

grinn .. it's *just* sober's list with a little extra audio and a few more DynEnv mods

I'm about to drop NewUI completely, see what that does for my game.

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by plj

grinn .. it's *just* sober's list with a little extra audio and a few more DynEnv mods

I'm about to drop NewUI completely, see what that does for my game.

Sobers list (and any other large tested list) is exact. There is huge scope for a list like that to go wrong.
I would even go as far as to say that if you use Sobers list you must follow it to the letter - even the gameplay options (TC restricted to 512 etc)

If users don't do this and then come across problems - they call it Sobers list, but it is not.
Even the smallest change will cause ctd

So - to drop TDWs UI would in my view be a mistake - that one mod offers so much. You would be far better off getting rid of all those small mods in your list - thus less will be lost.

you should try a smaller list with the bigger mods that have been worked on for many years and will work together if order of install is followed (oldest first)

[plj]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Sobers list (and any other large tested list) is exact. There is huge scope for a list like that to go wrong.
I would even go as far as to say that if you use Sobers list you must follow it to the letter - even the gameplay options (TC restricted to 512 etc)

I do I just added SFX and a few mods that do not conflict. (Checked with JSGME and red up on documentation)

If users don't do this and then come across problems - they call it Sobers list, but it is not.
Even the smallest change will cause ctd

My game was a copy of that list at a point .. no change in CTD's. Including each and every option that was mentioned.

So - to drop TDWs UI would in my view be a mistake - that one mod offers so much. You would be far better off getting rid of all those small mods in your list - thus less will be lost.

I should, for fun and commenting, bombard you with the diffrent mep files I have here tring to isolate the problem as being one of those .. I'd love to ..

you should try a smaller list with the bigger mods that have been worked on for many years and will work together if order of install is followed (oldest first)

I did .. check CTD hunt topic, minimal list. The only consistent thing has been NewUI.

[Farbaute]

I've installed the tutorial via JSGME after I installed TDW's UI, I didn't any overwrite warnings and when I start the game, the main menu doesn't show tutorials anywhere, I don't know what might have gone wrong here

[Trevally.]

Originally Posted by Farbaute

I've installed the tutorial via JSGME after I installed TDW's UI, I didn't any overwrite warnings and when I start the game, the main menu doesn't show tutorials anywhere, I don't know what might have gone wrong here

Sounds like TDW's UI is not installed correctly
Uninstall it and check the folder structure
the folder "data" MUST be the first subfolder for every mod
TDW packs his mods in many folders - so look for the data one, back up one level and paste that folder into your MODS folder

[Farbaute]

I couldn't figure it out, so I tried with OHII and the OHII tutorial version instead, but still no tutorial ot the main menu

[Trevally.]

Yes - your problem in that TDWs UI is not installed correctly
you need to fix this first

check where the data folder is

[Mikemike47]

Originally Posted by Trevally.

Yes - your problem in that TDWs UI is not installed correctly
you need to fix this first

check where the data folder is

Please do what Trevally suggests. Click on my signature link below and go to post #3. There it talks about the data folder and double/multiple folders, etc.

[Farbaute]

Does this look right to you have I done something wrong (I haven't reinstalled the mods yet, just extracted them)

[Trevally.]

Yes - that is wrong and is the cause of your issue.
Remove that whole folder from your MODS folder (use jsgme to uninstall it first)
then place this marked folder in your MODS folder and install with jsgme