The Wolves of Steel: Bugs, glitches and issues thread

[Mon Homme]

Originally Posted by kapuhy

I haven't found the culprit, sadly. In TWoS 2.2.25 there is no Allied group in area at this time or near this time. German destroyers, yes, sure, but no Allies.

Of course I might be missing something - my knowledge of how campaign works is very basic, Vecko would be the person to ask but he is a rare sight on Subsim recently.

I understood you.

I saw this battle because I moved the bunker and the start of the Total Germany campaign from Memel to Danzig. When my U-29 appeared in the Danzig bunker, then I saw this amazing battle. All this happened on 1 November 1939.

[DisUnds]

2.2.25 cant using any modified files in \data\Library and Objects? I modified cameras.cam,Shells.zon,torpedoes_g7a-e.sim and .zon,20mm_C38_Twin.sim,Deck_Gun_GE88mm.sim and Vierling.sim,when I load a save(use modified files) which already complete first patrol,and start second game will crash,use original files(start second patrol) will wont.

[Aktungbby]

DisUnds!

[kapuhy]

Originally Posted by DisUnds

2.2.25 cant using any modified files in \data\Library and Objects? I modified cameras.cam,Shells.zon,torpedoes_g7a-e.sim and .zon,20mm_C38_Twin.sim,Deck_Gun_GE88mm.sim and Vierling.sim,when I load a save(use modified files) which already complete first patrol,and start second game will crash,use original files(start second patrol) will wont.

TWoS will normally work with edited sim or zon files, provided there was nothing in your edits themselves that would cause game to crash.

[daemonofdecay]

I'm getting some crashes off the English coast with no warning. Did a clean install, followed the instructions, was even able to run a full patrol with no issues, and this is my second patrol.

Steam, latest version, no custom mods, etc.

Here is a link to the save file. To replicate it, I just have to wait a few minutes / turn on time compression and bam, crash to desktop.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/dfwmm...2.sh5save/file

[propbeanie]

Hey there daemonofdecay! Welcome back.

Are you using bog-stock-standard SH5, or do you have non-custom mods applied? What is your game's install path? Are you running the old disk version of the game, or a Steam or Ubisoft download?

[daemonofdecay]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Hey there daemonofdecay! Welcome back.

Are you using bog-stock-standard SH5, or do you have non-custom mods applied? What is your game's install path? Are you running the old disk version of the game, or a Steam or Ubisoft download?

Glad to be back - every now and again I get a craving for some submarines, you know?

The install path is to Steam, so still in Program Files, but no other mods are running. The only mod I have running through the mod manager included with WoS is the one that removes the plastic holder on the tools.

I was able to save the campaign by going to an earlier save and avoiding that area, but I have no idea what caused the crash. I did a bit of trouble shooting with what I could see in the threat, but didn't find anything made an impact. And by avoiding that area I was able to move past the rough time/date of the crash too.

Generic patcher applied fine, had my antivirus disabled during it, had Steam off, etc.

The CTD was without warning, and its the ONLY time I have had anything like in a few hours of playing. Everything else has been smooth.

[daemonofdecay]

I have another save that was my first one with the same issue I can upload as well, from a bit further south. I kept trying to figure out a way to avoid the crash - sinking a ship, not sinking it, etc. - and just couldn't find a way to avoid it.

[Aktungbby]

daemonofdecay! On the surface after 13 years' 'silent run'! So long ago you were overtaken by the photobucketprofit scam...your sig's marred photo needs a tad of rejuvenating.

[daemonofdecay]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

daemonofdecay! On the surface after 13 years' 'silent run'! So long ago you were overtaken by the photobucketprofit scam...your sig's marred photo needs a tad of rejuvenating.

Tells you just how long it has been.

EDIT: To avoid spamming I'll add that I've run two more patrols fully with zero incidents. Next time I'll head back to the Eastern Coast of England and see if I can replicate the issue.

[propbeanie]

I am not aware of any bad ship calls in the stock game, but there might be... However, you mention adding a small mod, and the fact that you are in "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamApps \common \SH5" (or whatever name yours used) with the game, which can cause issues, since Windows will interfere with mods. Neither SH5 nor JSGME are recognized as "authorized" programs in Windows Vista or later, since they were written to the WinXP paradigm. If you do not have many Steam games, then just un-install Steam, and re-install it choosing a folder you make yourself to put Steam and the resulting Steam Library folder into. If you have a 2nd hard drive you can use, you can create another Steam Library folder in that, and install SH5 there in a folder you create yourself. That way, Windows stays out of your way. If you have a lot of Steam games and do not have another hard drive, then life is much more difficult. You could refer to Moving a Steam Installation and Games and / or How to change default install location from the Steam site.

Also, had you emptied your Save folder after activating the little mod you added? I don't think it does much, other than change a few images, but if it changes and cfg, dat or similar files, Windows would get you, and you might have made the Save folder invalid, since it does not update properly, due to the way the game works. Save often, and avoid the area after you test again...

[daemonofdecay]

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I am not aware of any bad ship calls in the stock game, but there might be... However, you mention adding a small mod, and the fact that you are in "C:\Program Files (x86) \Steam \SteamApps \common \SH5" (or whatever name yours used) with the game, which can cause issues, since Windows will interfere with mods. Neither SH5 nor JSGME are recognized as "authorized" programs in Windows Vista or later, since they were written to the WinXP paradigm. If you do not have many Steam games, then just un-install Steam, and re-install it choosing a folder you make yourself to put Steam and the resulting Steam Library folder into. If you have a 2nd hard drive you can use, you can create another Steam Library folder in that, and install SH5 there in a folder you create yourself. That way, Windows stays out of your way. If you have a lot of Steam games and do not have another hard drive, then life is much more difficult. You could refer to Moving a Steam Installation and Games and / or How to change default install location from the Steam site.

Also, had you emptied your Save folder after activating the little mod you added? I don't think it does much, other than change a few images, but if it changes and cfg, dat or similar files, Windows would get you, and you might have made the Save folder invalid, since it does not update properly, due to the way the game works. Save often, and avoid the area after you test again...

I had actually only used the small mod which was included in the installer through an entirely fresh save - the readme suggested it could be added or removed at any time as well, but I still only did it for a fresh save.

I can report that I have conducted numerous other patrols afterwards, by avoiding that one area, and never had a single other CTD. And I've even been close to where it was happening and, again, not a single CTD since.

I've kept both save files in case anyone else ever reports anything similar, but at this point I'm just going to blame a weird unknown fluke. After this point I haven't had a single issue of note.