[REL] Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, full release - Page 206

propbeanie · 04-19-21, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mad Mardigan

Ahoy...

Per agreement, am reporting end results, after reordering mods list, & renesting of RSM.exe, into the main folder for FotRS...

Renesting the RSM.exe, no issues there. All good.

After reorganizing the mods list... well...

Loaded last save & ran across a tanker, that I ran across prior to the Subchaser class 13.

Before, I had no issues sinking it, the 1st time I ran across it.

However, this time.. still ended up with the same issue the 2nd time of coming across the subchaser. targeting was askew.. & range was crap. Except this time, it was with that tanker that I had it crop up...

No ideas... so... I just bit the bullet, exited & scrapped the game save folder.

Upon start of a new career, after resetting up options before shoving off on patrol.. & can report that thus far, have not had the issue show up yet... Knock on wood *knock.. knock...*

End report.

M. M.

Thanks for the report. Have fun!

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Originally Posted by flaminus

That's good

btw, i'm not bad-mouthing the original work, the texture in tmo just more reasonable, at least matched

I understand, and I was having fun with it.

All the years of testing and playing the mod, and hadn't noticed that the torp textures do not match... that is a riot. So we'll fix what we have, and include your mod as an add-in for those who want the TMO colors. The idea behind FotRSU is user configurability. Thank you!

flush deck · 04-21-21, 10:31 AM

Hi guys,

First, thanks for this awesome Mod and work behind.

propbeanie propose me, thanks for that, to get a look and test m'y skill on the texture of the USN and Japan ships of FotRSU. Very happy to start this new adventure, and give help to this great Project.

I'll post here (if it's ok of course) the WIP of the differents ships that I'll update.

First batch of reworked skin Will be for the USN DD

The Clemson DD186

Stay tuned

s7rikeback · 04-21-21, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flush deck

Hi guys,

First, thanks for this awesome Mod and work behind.

propbeanie propose me, thanks for that, to get a look and test m'y skill on the texture of the USN and Japan ships of FotRSU. Very happy to start this new adventure, and give help to this great Project.

I'll post here (if it's ok of course) the WIP of the differents ships that I'll update.

First batch of reworked skin Will be for the USN DD

The Clemson DD186

Stay tuned

I think I'm in love...

KaleunMarco · 04-21-21, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flush deck

Hi guys,

First, thanks for this awesome Mod and work behind.

propbeanie propose me, thanks for that, to get a look and test m'y skill on the texture of the USN and Japan ships of FotRSU. Very happy to start this new adventure, and give help to this great Project.

I'll post here (if it's ok of course) the WIP of the differents ships that I'll update.

First batch of reworked skin Will be for the USN DD

The Clemson DD186

Stay tuned

they look very sharp!
however, i kind of liked the one with the rust showing, here and there. it gives a more wartime look, if you know what i mean.

Mad Mardigan · 04-21-21, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flush deck

Hi guys,

First, thanks for this awesome Mod and work behind.

propbeanie propose me, thanks for that, to get a look and test m'y skill on the texture of the USN and Japan ships of FotRSU. Very happy to start this new adventure, and give help to this great Project.

I'll post here (if it's ok of course) the WIP of the differents ships that I'll update.

First batch of reworked skin Will be for the USN DD

The Clemson DD186

Stay tuned

Ahoy, flush deck...

Like s7rikeback...

Quote:

Originally Posted by s7rikeback

I think I'm in love...

but.. also like KaleunMarco...

Quote:

Originally Posted by KaleunMarco

they look very sharp!
however, i kind of liked the one with the rust showing, here and there. it gives a more wartime look, if you know what i mean.

What would be the possibilities of still retaining a couple that are still... rough about the edges, that have a weary wartime hard use look to them...

Like they haven't had an opportunity to hit the docks to have seen being repaired or reconfigured yet... kind of it between updated or upgraded... sort of look, if you follow.

Other than that, love the look of the reworked skins thus far proposed...

M. M.

flaminus · 04-21-21, 09:49 PM

i start a new campaign in middle 1943 with a gato, there is a upgrade pack of deck gun with "4 inch bow and 20mm AA stern", I adopt this upgrade and wierd thing happen: there is an additional crew slot with 4 crew members, but that should be 1 member since it's a 20mm AA. And in action, there is actually no man operating the new AA gun.

when I adopt the upgrade, there is no crew in deck gun solots. Then I test again with crew in original slots, after upgrading, nothing change, not even the additional solt for new AA gun, bug as well.

edit: i search deck gun issue in this thread and find the solution by saving and reloading without crew. It works! but only only one question: there are still 4 crew for 20mm AA gun, is that the mod intended or just another bug?

propbeanie · 04-21-21, 11:01 PM

As you found flaminus, check your guns crew before you do any "upgrades". This is the idea of the Green circles at a lot of the home ports - to be a reminder to the player to Save prior to entering port, which is near the smaller red circles. Also remove the crews from the guns, and put them back where you found them. Then you can safely enter port and dock, and ~most~ upgrades can't harm your people... maybe.

As you experienced on a new start and changing deck guns yourself, you have to Save the game so that the game engine properly initializes your gun crew positions at the new station(s). Usually, what you will find (if you don't Save) is that the location where the original gun was will be where the gun crew will properly report to their duty stations, while the other gun crew is in the torpedo room, sipping the juice...

As for the number of gun crew positions, remember first of all, it is now a deck gun, and as such, it must be fully manned as per union agreement. A deck gun is a deck gun, after all...

- I jest, but only on the union rules. The game dictates that what we do to the one deck gun, must be done to the other also (crew-wise), else we can't swap ends with the guns... Maybe if we had "auto" stations, the way the Stock game does things, we wouldn't have the issue, but FotRSU, in a early attempt to eliminate the gun problem put designated crew member in the gun slots, so it is what it is. It does eliminate most instances of missing gun crew positions.

Also, the game does not allow us to man that 2nd deck gun, whether it would be a 4" and a 20mm, or a 5" and a 20mm, or two 5" guns. There is only one position the player can jump into, and that is the "default" deck gun position for the boat, which on a Gato is the bow position. The 20mm deck gun will not shoot at airplanes, only surface targets... sigh. So don't expect some help for your AA crews on the conn positions. But definitely check your gun crew positions both before and after any changes you make to the guns.

btw: I was able to completely hose the gun crews on both the deck guns and the AA guns, just by trying to experiment a bit with the Gato... I don't like the idea of one little mistake trashing the boat like that... I'll do some tweaking on the in-progress careers, to see if similar can happen there...

@ flush deck: I love the new threads for the Clemson also. Is the Measure 12 a North Atlantic scheme? My dad was telling me that as they went across the Pacific for Leyte Gulf, they painted their ship twice. They went from store-bought grey through the Panama Canal, to a different Measure camo, which almost sounds like a dazzle as he describes it, and then they painted it a green camo scheme as they got closer to the Philippines and were going to be closer in toward shore. Looks good!

Mad Mardigan · 04-21-21, 11:23 PM

Ahoy, propbeanie...

Per last report, had restructured set up with v1.46 of FotRS to:

FotRSU-EN v1.46
Nippon v1.2.1
901_Strategic_Map_Symbols
452_MoonlightzSonarLines
International Radio mod
Fleetboat Interior-Officers Quarters_FOTRSU v1.39 EN
SEA_LIFE_SH4
1-MM's Gramophone music mix

with RSM.exe nested into the main SH4 folder that I am running with the updated FotRS.

After testing, & having the same issue showing up, I then dumped the game save folder, reset up & proceeded with a fresh career.

well, it appeared that set things right as it went with target lock & the correct tube assignment.. which was all good, as I saw of.

Got 1/2 way into the 1st patrol objective territory, which was to patrol the Camrahn Bay area for 10 days, got a 2ndary objective of sinkCamrahn3, what ever that is or was exactly.. well.. will not know. As right after I got that objective.. no message forth wit to explain what or where that was to be done (exactly...

) sad to say, I got hit with a CTD... & needless to say.. came to the decision to withdraw both Fleetboat interior & sea life and just roll with the activation of:

FotRSU-EN v1.46
Nippon v1.2.1
901_Strategic_Map_Symbols
452_MoonlightzSonarLines
International Radio mod
1-MM's Gramophone music mix

for now.

Until I can find out what caused it... as is, I know that before I ran into issues, that set up worked when I ran that S boat career, even though it ended badly for Me. Hopefully, can figure out why so that it can be corrected & those added in at another time. For now, am just going to forgo them..

Got to say, I have a lot of respect for our boys, who actually served aboard them S boats.. now even more so... for their perseverance in doing so... as well as for those boys, who served on Uboats. Serving on them, took a ton of guts...

Just wanted to give you an update...

M. M.

propbeanie · 04-22-21, 12:09 AM

I have tested that exact mission myself, and just went through it again in a text editor and found nothing "wrong", other than the secondary mission name...

- You should have received a message "Sink Ships" when you crossed into the patrol area, and then the "Sink tonnage" secondary is added to your list of Objectives. The mod is big, and even with LAA and the like, Windows still will not go beyond 2 gig of RAM for the game's memory space, and from what I remember of Home editions, ~all~ 32-bit apps reside in the same sandbox. If Moonlight or some other Windows 10 techie could let us know for certain.

flaminus · 04-22-21, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

As you found flaminus, check your guns crew before you do any "upgrades". This is the idea of the Green circles at a lot of the home ports - to be a reminder to the player to Save prior to entering port, which is near the smaller red circles. Also remove the crews from the guns, and put them back where you found them. Then you can safely enter port and dock, and ~most~ upgrades can't harm your people... maybe.

As you experienced on a new start and changing deck guns yourself, you have to Save the game so that the game engine properly initializes your gun crew positions at the new station(s). Usually, what you will find (if you don't Save) is that the location where the original gun was will be where the gun crew will properly report to their duty stations, while the other gun crew is in the torpedo room, sipping the juice...

As for the number of gun crew positions, remember first of all, it is now a deck gun, and as such, it must be fully manned as per union agreement. A deck gun is a deck gun, after all...

- I jest, but only on the union rules. The game dictates that what we do to the one deck gun, must be done to the other also (crew-wise), else we can't swap ends with the guns... Maybe if we had "auto" stations, the way the Stock game does things, we wouldn't have the issue, but FotRSU, in a early attempt to eliminate the gun problem put designated crew member in the gun slots, so it is what it is. It does eliminate most instances of missing gun crew positions.

Also, the game does not allow us to man that 2nd deck gun, whether it would be a 4" and a 20mm, or a 5" and a 20mm, or two 5" guns. There is only one position the player can jump into, and that is the "default" deck gun position for the boat, which on a Gato is the bow position. The 20mm deck gun will not shoot at airplanes, only surface targets... sigh. So don't expect some help for your AA crews on the conn positions. But definitely check your gun crew positions both before and after any changes you make to the guns.

btw: I was able to completely hose the gun crews on both the deck guns and the AA guns, just by trying to experiment a bit with the Gato... I don't like the idea of one little mistake trashing the boat like that... I'll do some tweaking on the in-progress careers, to see if similar can happen there...

Thank you for your explanation.

It seems that smoothly playing of this game needs lots of reading and researching

Mad Mardigan · 04-22-21, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

I have tested that exact mission myself, and just went through it again in a text editor and found nothing "wrong", other than the secondary mission name...

- You should have received a message "Sink Ships" when you crossed into the patrol area, and then the "Sink tonnage" secondary is added to your list of Objectives. The mod is big, and even with LAA and the like, Windows still will not go beyond 2 gig of RAM for the game's memory space, and from what I remember of Home editions, ~all~ 32-bit apps reside in the same sandbox. If Moonlight or some other Windows 10 techie could let us know for certain.

Dunno for definite, if any difference it makes, but with Win 10, am rolling with Win 10 Pro.. not Home. *shrugs* Not that I am impressed with it per se as it is... know that some time soon.. am likely going to get kicked up to whatever is slated to replace the version 1909 version I have of it now. Kicked up to it, kicking & screaming, the whole way, I might add...

& I don't go quietly, either...

Yeah, in the Capt. Log clipboard, in the messages section, where radio messages go in that clipboard.. was a Sink ships, as I recall.. but nothing else with regards to the sinkcamrahn3 added objective though, to denote to do so in a particular location of just go gung ho on any ship crossing My path.. or if it was to be a certain ship type... nothing. If at all possible, any info on what the tonnage is to be sunk with that & 2ndly... any chance of having a message be received from HQ as to that specifics to show in the Capt.'s Log clipboard... Just asking, Por favor... mi capitán...

Not that it will do any good now, but.. knowing that, I can keep it in Me ol' noggin, for future reference.. that is.. provided ol'man-itis doesn't wipe the memory banks...

M. M.

propbeanie · 04-22-21, 07:29 AM

If a person gets a "Proceed immediately to..." assignment, which is a "Sink" objective, those will generally be a minimum of 2500 to 10000 tons. The 10000 tons are usually designated by tonnage with something like "Sink 10,000 tons of enemy shipping" or similar. The others might not be. In all cases, a "Sink" assignment can be accomplished anywhere in the SH4 world, where you can find enemy traffic. When you have one of those "Sink" assignments as a secondary that kicks in upon arrival on a Patrol assignment, those might be as low a 1 ton, or up to 1500 tons, all generally obtainable with the sinking of one ship. No penalty of course, if you do not sink any shipping, other than not earning the points for completion of the objective. But you can still sink anything anywhere, though you are confined by the Patrol requirements still... it is best of course, if you play with duds enabled, and get to experience the frustration of several hours of set-up work ruined by BurOrd...

P.S.: I think the Pro version allows several sandboxes for the kiddies to play in... or would they be "old legacy kiddies"?? and it's 4 gig, not 2... lol

04-22-21, 07:45 AM

Hello everyone. I can't use torpedoes in my campaign. I prepare everything, press fire button, nothing happens. How can I fix it? Thanks.

mikesn9 · 04-22-21, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by froinchi

Hello everyone. I can't use torpedoes in my campaign. I prepare everything, press fire button, nothing happens. How can I fix it? Thanks.

first: did you open the torpedo tube door? "q" If not, you'll just hear a 'click' when you hit the fire button.

second : if you did open the door, try cntrl-enter. same thing? or not.?

either way put up all the info here for the guru's to use.
Ship type, home base, date, SH4 version, list of all mods in use, and anything else you can send.

Canonicus · 04-22-21, 03:36 PM

Was wondering why the SJ radar antenna keeps rotating while underwater. I could be wrong but I don't think this is accurate. Is there a way to turn off rotation when the set is off? Seems The captain should have the option to turn on SJ radar when surfaced, should he choose. Should'nt turn on without a direct order.

04-21-21, 10:31 AM	#3077
flush deck Mate Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Paris Posts: 54 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 2	Hi guys, First, thanks for this awesome Mod and work behind. propbeanie propose me, thanks for that, to get a look and test m'y skill on the texture of the USN and Japan ships of FotRSU. Very happy to start this new adventure, and give help to this great Project. I'll post here (if it's ok of course) the WIP of the differents ships that I'll update. First batch of reworked skin Will be for the USN DD The Clemson DD186 Stay tuned __________________ Against the overwhelming odds

04-21-21, 09:49 PM	#3081
flaminus Sparky Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 151 Downloads: 502 Uploads: 5	deck gun upgrade issue i start a new campaign in middle 1943 with a gato, there is a upgrade pack of deck gun with "4 inch bow and 20mm AA stern", I adopt this upgrade and wierd thing happen: there is an additional crew slot with 4 crew members, but that should be 1 member since it's a 20mm AA. And in action, there is actually no man operating the new AA gun. when I adopt the upgrade, there is no crew in deck gun solots. Then I test again with crew in original slots, after upgrading, nothing change, not even the additional solt for new AA gun, bug as well. edit: i search deck gun issue in this thread and find the solution by saving and reloading without crew. It works! but only only one question: there are still 4 crew for 20mm AA gun, is that the mod intended or just another bug? Last edited by flaminus; 04-21-21 at 10:17 PM.

04-21-21, 11:01 PM	#3082
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	As you found flaminus, check your guns crew before you do any "upgrades". This is the idea of the Green circles at a lot of the home ports - to be a reminder to the player to Save prior to entering port, which is near the smaller red circles. Also remove the crews from the guns, and put them back where you found them. Then you can safely enter port and dock, and ~most~ upgrades can't harm your people... maybe. As you experienced on a new start and changing deck guns yourself, you have to Save the game so that the game engine properly initializes your gun crew positions at the new station(s). Usually, what you will find (if you don't Save) is that the location where the original gun was will be where the gun crew will properly report to their duty stations, while the other gun crew is in the torpedo room, sipping the juice... As for the number of gun crew positions, remember first of all, it is now a deck gun, and as such, it must be fully manned as per union agreement. A deck gun is a deck gun, after all... - I jest, but only on the union rules. The game dictates that what we do to the one deck gun, must be done to the other also (crew-wise), else we can't swap ends with the guns... Maybe if we had "auto" stations, the way the Stock game does things, we wouldn't have the issue, but FotRSU, in a early attempt to eliminate the gun problem put designated crew member in the gun slots, so it is what it is. It does eliminate most instances of missing gun crew positions. Also, the game does not allow us to man that 2nd deck gun, whether it would be a 4" and a 20mm, or a 5" and a 20mm, or two 5" guns. There is only one position the player can jump into, and that is the "default" deck gun position for the boat, which on a Gato is the bow position. The 20mm deck gun will not shoot at airplanes, only surface targets... sigh. So don't expect some help for your AA crews on the conn positions. But definitely check your gun crew positions both before and after any changes you make to the guns. btw: I was able to completely hose the gun crews on both the deck guns and the AA guns, just by trying to experiment a bit with the Gato... I don't like the idea of one little mistake trashing the boat like that... I'll do some tweaking on the in-progress careers, to see if similar can happen there... @ flush deck: I love the new threads for the Clemson also. Is the Measure 12 a North Atlantic scheme? My dad was telling me that as they went across the Pacific for Leyte Gulf, they painted their ship twice. They went from store-bought grey through the Panama Canal, to a different Measure camo, which almost sounds like a dazzle as he describes it, and then they painted it a green camo scheme as they got closer to the Philippines and were going to be closer in toward shore. Looks good! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-21-21, 11:23 PM	#3083
Mad Mardigan Admiral Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 2,327 Downloads: 491 Uploads: 0	Ahoy, propbeanie... Per last report, had restructured set up with v1.46 of FotRS to: FotRSU-EN v1.46 Nippon v1.2.1 901_Strategic_Map_Symbols 452_MoonlightzSonarLines International Radio mod Fleetboat Interior-Officers Quarters_FOTRSU v1.39 EN SEA_LIFE_SH4 1-MM's Gramophone music mix with RSM.exe nested into the main SH4 folder that I am running with the updated FotRS. After testing, & having the same issue showing up, I then dumped the game save folder, reset up & proceeded with a fresh career. well, it appeared that set things right as it went with target lock & the correct tube assignment.. which was all good, as I saw of. Got 1/2 way into the 1st patrol objective territory, which was to patrol the Camrahn Bay area for 10 days, got a 2ndary objective of sinkCamrahn3, what ever that is or was exactly.. well.. will not know. As right after I got that objective.. no message forth wit to explain what or where that was to be done (exactly... ) sad to say, I got hit with a CTD... & needless to say.. came to the decision to withdraw both Fleetboat interior & sea life and just roll with the activation of: FotRSU-EN v1.46 Nippon v1.2.1 901_Strategic_Map_Symbols 452_MoonlightzSonarLines International Radio mod 1-MM's Gramophone music mix for now. Until I can find out what caused it... as is, I know that before I ran into issues, that set up worked when I ran that S boat career, even though it ended badly for Me. Hopefully, can figure out why so that it can be corrected & those added in at another time. For now, am just going to forgo them.. Got to say, I have a lot of respect for our boys, who actually served aboard them S boats.. now even more so... for their perseverance in doing so... as well as for those boys, who served on Uboats. Serving on them, took a ton of guts... Just wanted to give you an update... M. M. __________________

04-22-21, 12:09 AM	#3084
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	I have tested that exact mission myself, and just went through it again in a text editor and found nothing "wrong", other than the secondary mission name... - You should have received a message "Sink Ships" when you crossed into the patrol area, and then the "Sink tonnage" secondary is added to your list of Objectives. The mod is big, and even with LAA and the like, Windows still will not go beyond 2 gig of RAM for the game's memory space, and from what I remember of Home editions, ~all~ 32-bit apps reside in the same sandbox. If Moonlight or some other Windows 10 techie could let us know for certain. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-22-21, 07:29 AM	#3087
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	If a person gets a "Proceed immediately to..." assignment, which is a "Sink" objective, those will generally be a minimum of 2500 to 10000 tons. The 10000 tons are usually designated by tonnage with something like "Sink 10,000 tons of enemy shipping" or similar. The others might not be. In all cases, a "Sink" assignment can be accomplished anywhere in the SH4 world, where you can find enemy traffic. When you have one of those "Sink" assignments as a secondary that kicks in upon arrival on a Patrol assignment, those might be as low a 1 ton, or up to 1500 tons, all generally obtainable with the sinking of one ship. No penalty of course, if you do not sink any shipping, other than not earning the points for completion of the objective. But you can still sink anything anywhere, though you are confined by the Patrol requirements still... it is best of course, if you play with duds enabled, and get to experience the frustration of several hours of set-up work ruined by BurOrd... P.S.: I think the Pro version allows several sandboxes for the kiddies to play in... or would they be "old legacy kiddies"?? and it's 4 gig, not 2... lol __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

04-22-21, 07:45 AM	#3088
froinchi Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I can't fire torpedoes... Hello everyone. I can't use torpedoes in my campaign. I prepare everything, press fire button, nothing happens. How can I fix it? Thanks.

04-22-21, 03:36 PM	#3090
Canonicus XO Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In your baffles... Posts: 431 Downloads: 623 Uploads: 7	Was wondering why the SJ radar antenna keeps rotating while underwater. I could be wrong but I don't think this is accurate. Is there a way to turn off rotation when the set is off? Seems The captain should have the option to turn on SJ radar when surfaced, should he choose. Should'nt turn on without a direct order.