New Computer Contest - Page 2

ivank · 06-09-09, 08:48 PM

Corsair Dominator RAM would be compatible with your rig Mr Nichols?

I like your rig, might change a thing or two, the case maybe. And build her!

Where do I get info on water cooling?

ivank · 06-09-09, 09:30 PM

how are these cases:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811215009
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133056
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160

these power supplies:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182096
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817121037

ivank · 06-09-09, 10:01 PM

edit: I am thinking of 2x eVGA GTX 285 1GB SUPERCLOCKED, should I go with just the two or step up to 3?

ivank · 06-10-09, 02:46 PM

Okay layout so far, just need to decide on water-cooling or not.

Intel i7 920 processor
Asus P6T motherboard
Corsair dominator 6GB( 3 X 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000)
2 X EGVA GTX285 (SLI)
WD 300GB Velociraptor HD
Seagate 1.5TB Barracuda HD
Cooler Master HAF 932 case
Corsair 1000 W. PSU
Samsunf 22'' FHD LCD monitor

Any suggestions on the water-cooling front, feel free to speak up!
Should I go with just a standard DVD-ROM/RW or a Blu-Ray also?

FIREWALL · 06-10-09, 03:04 PM

Sorry about the Dell post.

I hope you take up the challenge of building your own rig.

Besides the good feeling of doing it yourself just, think of the bragging rights when you take it to college.

ivank · 06-10-09, 04:10 PM

No problem

.

I am dying to build her myself, but my mom is giving me sh*t about it!!
saying what if I dont do it right, I said I have 2 computer savy friends and SUBSIM!!
She said, what if parts break? I say there is warrenty, she said not unless you get from company to makes computers. I need to sit her down and show her Newegg.com!!

Task Force · 06-10-09, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivank

No problem

.

I am dying to build her myself, but my mom is giving me sh*t about it!!
saying what if I dont do it right, I said I have 2 computer savy friends and SUBSIM!!
She said, what if parts break? I say there is warrenty, she said not unless you get from company to makes computers. I need to sit her down and show her Newegg.com!!

My mother thought the same thing... runs fine, no broke parts.

Task Force · 06-10-09, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ivank

Okay layout so far, just need to decide on water-cooling or not.

Intel i7 920 processor
Asus P6T motherboard
Corsair dominator 6GB( 3 X 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000)
2 X EGVA GTX285 (SLI)
WD 300GB Velociraptor HD
Seagate 1.5TB Barracuda HD
Cooler Master HAF 932 case
Corsair 1000 W. PSU
Samsunf 22'' FHD LCD monitor

Any suggestions on the water-cooling front, feel free to speak up!
Should I go with just a standard DVD-ROM/RW or a Blu-Ray also?

hmm watercooling... what you looking into. and whats your current price for it all.

Bill Nichols · 06-11-09, 06:42 AM

Water cooling won't be needed with your rig unless you intend on overclocking. Remember, if you overclock you're doing it on your own risk, don't expect Intel to give you a replacement if you make a mistake and fry your chip.

(Now standing by for incoming from water cooling advocates...)

Bill Nichols · 06-11-09, 06:58 AM

Oh, one more thing... If your mom absolutely insists on a commercially-build PC, then go with a Dell XPS. I own three (and have had more in the past) and have always been happy. Dell's XPS customer support, in my experience, can't be beat. Whenever anything has broke, they sent a technician to my house to replace it.

Onkel Neal · 06-11-09, 04:47 PM

Yeah, I second that, I got a Dell XPS in Feb, runs like a rocket. Of course, you will have about $1000 left over, that will buy a lot of Dr Pepper.

Bill Nichols · 06-11-09, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Yeah, I second that, I got a Dell XPS in Feb, runs like a rocket. Of course, you will have about $1000 left over, that will buy a lot of Dr Pepper.

Or games

CaptainHaplo · 06-11-09, 07:22 PM

Water cooling in a rig like your looking at should be done with a case that has it built in.

www.thermaltake.com

www.Arcticmod.com

www.Xoxide.com

However - if you want a "brand" built one - don't go water cooled. Major companies like Dell won't build a water cooled box.

You could always contact Alienware (owned by Dell I believe) to see if they might - as a specialty division they might. But I wouldn't count on it. If you want someone to put the box together for you - and you go water - then you need to look locally for a reputable company that has done it before. Ask for customer references and check them yourself.

Water cooling is NOT just for overclockers. Its more efficient, quieter and cleaner than air cooling. Run a PC for 3 months with air cooling - then open it up and look at the dust. Run a water cooled PC for 3 months and look inside - its all clean.

Alot of people freak out at the thought of water and electronics. The cooling solution is normally non-conductive electrically, is not corrosive, and has anti-oxidizers in it as well. Water cooling is safe, as long as its done RIGHT. And lets face it - cooler temp components are going to last you longer. Do you want to open up your box every month and blow it out? Or would you rather see a gauge (or hear a audible signal) telling you that you need to put a little liquid in the tank to keep it topped off every once in a while?

SUBMAN1 · 06-12-09, 12:17 AM

Outside of the hassle of water cooling and the potential of leaking parts, I have to disagree with posts above about water cooling. It is a valid thing to do if you plan to 'silence' your system from the constant whirr of fans. I'm almost tempted to do it myself one day but I don't want to monitor the contraption.

On a side note, speed is no longer the ultimate end-game like it was in the PIII days or so. A good quad can be bought for cheap. The end game these days if to make a silent machine, yet one that still can crank out the FPS's with the best of them. That is the challenge. Water cooling is almost cheating in this regard, but it is the ultimate way to go. Large copper sinks are second.

The two types of sinks - copper and aluminum. aluminum will disapate more heat quicker than copper pound for pound. However, copper has much more mass in the same physical area and same form factor - probably 2 x the mass, so copper ultimately will be the better heat sink if they are of the same exact form factor, though it will weigh twice as much. Copper will also take longer to heat up - think large iron skillet vs small frying pan. So quick changes in temp will be ironed out as an average where the aluminum could theoretically overheat you component under the same conditions. Copper = less spikes.

A site you must visit to learn of quiet parts:

http://www.silentpcreview.com/

Those guys will teach you the best of the best for making a silent rig. Full MP3's on the sound outputs from fans to PSU's. You will be able to tell in advance if a PSU or fan will annoy you prior to putting it in your rig.

As for video card - NVidia is no longer and option this year. They are out of the game till some time next year.

As for CPU - that is the crap shoot. i7 or 955. Both work. Both have their pluses and minuses if you are talking the 920 vs the 955. If you are talking a faster i7, then the i7 will be the clear winner with the real drawback being a crazy price tag. What does the i7 965 go for these days? $1000 just for a desktop CPU? That is just wrong. It is not even a server CPU where I could understand the price tag. This is for the person willing to pay the money for a part that probably is just a clocked up 920.

Remember, Intel is usually not out for the customer, but more out for the profit. They do not have your best interest in mind. So maybe it is a moral thing with you. If not, buy what you want.

-S

ivank · 06-12-09, 02:32 PM

@subman1: so your saying go with AMD and ATI? I do not know the differecne between Intel and AMD so please help me compare them. I have an AMD now in my HP.

As for water-cooling, I need a silent rig because this is going to be in a dorm room, and I do not want to disrupt my room-mate. So if I can get a silent rig with fans and heatsinks, then bring it on

06-09-09, 08:48 PM	#16
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	Corsair Dominator RAM would be compatible with your rig Mr Nichols? I like your rig, might change a thing or two, the case maybe. And build her! Where do I get info on water cooling? __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

06-09-09, 09:30 PM	#17
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	how are these cases: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811215009 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811133056 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119160 these power supplies: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182096 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817121037 __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

06-09-09, 10:01 PM	#18
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	edit: I am thinking of 2x eVGA GTX 285 1GB SUPERCLOCKED, should I go with just the two or step up to 3? __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1 Last edited by ivank; 06-10-09 at 01:48 AM.

06-10-09, 02:46 PM	#19
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	Okay layout so far, just need to decide on water-cooling or not. Intel i7 920 processor Asus P6T motherboard Corsair dominator 6GB( 3 X 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) 2 X EGVA GTX285 (SLI) WD 300GB Velociraptor HD Seagate 1.5TB Barracuda HD Cooler Master HAF 932 case Corsair 1000 W. PSU Samsunf 22'' FHD LCD monitor Any suggestions on the water-cooling front, feel free to speak up! Should I go with just a standard DVD-ROM/RW or a Blu-Ray also? __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

06-10-09, 03:04 PM	#20
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Sorry about the Dell post. I hope you take up the challenge of building your own rig. Besides the good feeling of doing it yourself just, think of the bragging rights when you take it to college. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

06-10-09, 04:10 PM	#21
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	No problem . I am dying to build her myself, but my mom is giving me sh*t about it!! saying what if I dont do it right, I said I have 2 computer savy friends and SUBSIM!! She said, what if parts break? I say there is warrenty, she said not unless you get from company to makes computers. I need to sit her down and show her Newegg.com!! __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

06-11-09, 06:42 AM	#24
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Water cooling won't be needed with your rig unless you intend on overclocking. Remember, if you overclock you're doing it on your own risk, don't expect Intel to give you a replacement if you make a mistake and fry your chip. (Now standing by for incoming from water cooling advocates...) __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

06-11-09, 06:58 AM	#25
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	Oh, one more thing... If your mom absolutely insists on a commercially-build PC, then go with a Dell XPS. I own three (and have had more in the past) and have always been happy. Dell's XPS customer support, in my experience, can't be beat. Whenever anything has broke, they sent a technician to my house to replace it. __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

06-11-09, 04:47 PM	#26
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,283 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Yeah, I second that, I got a Dell XPS in Feb, runs like a rocket. Of course, you will have about $1000 left over, that will buy a lot of Dr Pepper. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

06-11-09, 07:22 PM	#28
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Water cooling in a rig like your looking at should be done with a case that has it built in. www.thermaltake.com www.Arcticmod.com www.Xoxide.com However - if you want a "brand" built one - don't go water cooled. Major companies like Dell won't build a water cooled box. You could always contact Alienware (owned by Dell I believe) to see if they might - as a specialty division they might. But I wouldn't count on it. If you want someone to put the box together for you - and you go water - then you need to look locally for a reputable company that has done it before. Ask for customer references and check them yourself. Water cooling is NOT just for overclockers. Its more efficient, quieter and cleaner than air cooling. Run a PC for 3 months with air cooling - then open it up and look at the dust. Run a water cooled PC for 3 months and look inside - its all clean. Alot of people freak out at the thought of water and electronics. The cooling solution is normally non-conductive electrically, is not corrosive, and has anti-oxidizers in it as well. Water cooling is safe, as long as its done RIGHT. And lets face it - cooler temp components are going to last you longer. Do you want to open up your box every month and blow it out? Or would you rather see a gauge (or hear a audible signal) telling you that you need to put a little liquid in the tank to keep it topped off every once in a while? __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

06-12-09, 12:17 AM	#29
SUBMAN1 Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,866 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Outside of the hassle of water cooling and the potential of leaking parts, I have to disagree with posts above about water cooling. It is a valid thing to do if you plan to 'silence' your system from the constant whirr of fans. I'm almost tempted to do it myself one day but I don't want to monitor the contraption. On a side note, speed is no longer the ultimate end-game like it was in the PIII days or so. A good quad can be bought for cheap. The end game these days if to make a silent machine, yet one that still can crank out the FPS's with the best of them. That is the challenge. Water cooling is almost cheating in this regard, but it is the ultimate way to go. Large copper sinks are second. The two types of sinks - copper and aluminum. aluminum will disapate more heat quicker than copper pound for pound. However, copper has much more mass in the same physical area and same form factor - probably 2 x the mass, so copper ultimately will be the better heat sink if they are of the same exact form factor, though it will weigh twice as much. Copper will also take longer to heat up - think large iron skillet vs small frying pan. So quick changes in temp will be ironed out as an average where the aluminum could theoretically overheat you component under the same conditions. Copper = less spikes. A site you must visit to learn of quiet parts: http://www.silentpcreview.com/ Those guys will teach you the best of the best for making a silent rig. Full MP3's on the sound outputs from fans to PSU's. You will be able to tell in advance if a PSU or fan will annoy you prior to putting it in your rig. As for video card - NVidia is no longer and option this year. They are out of the game till some time next year. As for CPU - that is the crap shoot. i7 or 955. Both work. Both have their pluses and minuses if you are talking the 920 vs the 955. If you are talking a faster i7, then the i7 will be the clear winner with the real drawback being a crazy price tag. What does the i7 965 go for these days? $1000 just for a desktop CPU? That is just wrong. It is not even a server CPU where I could understand the price tag. This is for the person willing to pay the money for a part that probably is just a clocked up 920. Remember, Intel is usually not out for the customer, but more out for the profit. They do not have your best interest in mind. So maybe it is a moral thing with you. If not, buy what you want. -S __________________

06-12-09, 02:32 PM	#30
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	@subman1: so your saying go with AMD and ATI? I do not know the differecne between Intel and AMD so please help me compare them. I have an AMD now in my HP. As for water-cooling, I need a silent rig because this is going to be in a dorm room, and I do not want to disrupt my room-mate. So if I can get a silent rig with fans and heatsinks, then bring it on __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1