The Official Unofficial Frau Kaleun Destroys The World* Thread

[Arclight]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

It's cheap, fast and with good overclocking potential. And it's cheap!

Right... so wouldn't it make sense to wait then? New tech brings price drops.

Have by now used it in quite a few gamers rigs for young lads on limited budgets - runs everything especially when paired with a decent graphics board.

With it being on par with an i7 in gaming terms I don't doubt that.

Die Frau won't be disappointed.

Not today, no. But I wonder what pops up in a few months. I bought a GTX460, and then the 560 popped up not long after. Bit faster, about the same price. I don't regret buying a 460, but if I had to pick today I'd buy a 560.

Considering your splurging on parts, I think you understand that point of view.


At any rate, good luck with the build, Frau. I'm sure there'll be no shortage of help here when you need it.

[LtzS_Petersen]

Why no new AM3+ Socket and a new Chipset? Asrock for instance make fine Boards with great Features, and you were compatible with next Generation Processors.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.de...l=890GX%20Pro3
And they are not so expensive like similar Boards from other Manufacturers. I build a Computer with one of these Boards and was amazed about the equipment of this Board. The Performance of the Chipsets in Crossfire was the same, the 890GX have the same amount of Lanes for the Grafikcards like the 790x Chipset.
And you get a Grafik Chip for free.
The Maimboard is the Basement of your Rig, all other is replacable without a lot of Work.

[Arclight]

Originally Posted by LtzS_Petersen

Why no new AM3+ Socket and a new Chipset?

Point. It would run that Phenom II while allowing future upgrades.

Wouldn't pick a board with integrated graphics though.

[NeonSamurai]

Originally Posted by Arclight

Right... so wouldn't it make sense to wait then? New tech brings price drops.

Problem always is though is when do you stop waiting, as new tech is always just around the corner. Though it is worth waiting if something major is about to come down the pipes.

[Arclight]

I'm talking about the new architectures, which come every 2 years. Die shrinks are fairly major too (those come every other year as well. One year new architecture, next year die shrink), but generally don't bring more than optimisations.

Even if Bulldozer turns out to be nothing noteworthy, the new chips will likely either force the older ones down in price, or offer more bang for the buck. Even if they don't, there's nothing lost in waiting a bit.

The right time depends on personal preference, but I would argue that buying just before an introduction like this is the wrong time.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by NeonSamurai

Problem always is though is when do you stop waiting, as new tech is always just around the corner. Though it is worth waiting if something major is about to come down the pipes.

I agree. No matter what you buy and when, there is always the chance that before you're ready something better will come along, and the price for the one you bought will drop.

[kiwi_2005]

Looking forward to seeing the finishing of Frau's mega kick ass gaming rig.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Looking forward to seeing the finishing of Frau's mega kick ass gaming rig.

I'll be happy if I don't break any of the parts and it runs.

This is more an exercise in, "can I actually build a working PC?"... which is why I'm satisfied to make a step up from what I have now if I can get a decent price on something, but don't feel the need to go all out for the latest and greatest on everything. I'm always well behind the curve when it comes to tech stuff anyway.

Besides which, in the time it takes you to assemble all the parts for one rig, somebody's already come up with something better, smaller, faster, and quieter. C'est la vie!

[Flaxpants]

Hi Frau, I just put in a 5770 and I have to say I'm very pleased with it. I did have an 8800GTX, which in its day was a pretty good card. In general the 5770 is giving me from 10-30fps more than the 8800GTX card did, plus now I can run DX11 of course. I was in two minds also over the 5770 and the 5870 but I'm glad I got the 5770, maybe I'll crossfire it later on, but to be honest after using it now for a month or two I no longer feel the need to go down that road.

In terms of Bang 4 Buck, the 5770 has to be one of the best deals out there right now.

[frau kaleun]

Yeah, I've got one in the current rig which will migrate to the new one, and the 4650 can go back in the current rig which I will find another home for... probably at the office.

Also - got the case today! Took it out of the box to make sure it looked okay and would fit in the space, I think it will do just fine. I guess at some point soon I will have to get a PSU in there at least long enough to make sure all the fans work. I can do that, right? Just plug in a PSU and hook up the fans to make sure? They came pre-installed with the case so if there's a problem with them I want to know now. I don't know how long it will be before I'm ready to start any serious system building.

I can probably bring one home from work just for that, we've got enough dead computers around and I don't think it was the PSU that died on all of them. They won't be high end but certainly enough to check out the fans.

Oh wait can you turn on the PSU without having the motherboard all hooked up? Now that I think about it, maybe not. You see what a n00b I am.

[Sailor Steve]

Hmm...I wonder what this one does???




Nope. Maybe this one...

[Jan Kyster]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

...can you turn on the PSU without having the motherboard all hooked up?

Absolutely!
Just shorten the green wire (PS On) with a black one (ground) with a paper clips!

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Absolutely!
Just shorten the green wire (PS On) with a black one (ground) with a paper clips!

Oh yeah that's the test thingy I saw on Corsair's web site I think.

So basically I will either find out if my fans work, or burn the building down.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Hmm...I wonder what this one does???




Nope. Maybe this one...

[Herr-Berbunch]

Dare you to lick the paper clip!

Usually if a manufacturer includes three fans built-in, they have the one at the front pushing air in, and the top/rear ones pushing out. Which is great, but 2x fans pushing more out than the one can push in leads to air (dust) being sucked in through all the other little cracks and crevices and making it dirty inside leading to potential overheating issues. It's not great sticking a vacuum cleaner nozzle to a mobo, nor spraying an airduster at the components. I'd move, if possible, the top fan and stick it on the side, as an intake fan. Or get a larger capacity fan on the side - cheap enough. Don't forget your filters for them.

And finally, was one thread for your PC build not enough?

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Dare you to lick the paper clip!

Usually if a manufacturer includes three fans built-in, they have the one at the front pushing air in, and the top/rear ones pushing out. Which is great, but 2x fans pushing more out than the one can push in leads to air (dust) being sucked in through all the other little cracks and crevices and making it dirty inside leading to potential overheating issues. It's not great sticking a vacuum cleaner nozzle to a mobo, nor spraying an airduster at the components. I'd move, if possible, the top fan and stick it on the side, as an intake fan. Or get a larger capacity fan on the side - cheap enough. Don't forget your filters for them.

There are three fans built in, front/top/rear. Plus I can put one or two more on the side for extra intake which I probably will do if only to add some more BIG BLUE LED LIGHTS WHOOOOOOO!!!!

Er, sorry, that last bit was just to make Jan's head explode.

There's also a filtered vent on the bottom, for the PSU intake I presume. Haven't checked to see about filters for the onboard fans but I think there is a removable filter for the front one. Any intake fan I add I'll put a filter with for sure (I assume I don't need them for exhaust vents, I mean, we're happy if dust gets blown out of the case, right?)

And finally, was one thread for your PC build not enough?

Are you mad, sir? An undertaking this massive and earthshaking can hardly be contained in one measly thread.

Besides which, I wasn't building anything in that thread, I was only contemplating buying some parts. It wasn't until I actually ordered them that I realized, oh crap, now I have to build a computer.