Questions about Mods, and close support planes.

Zgok · 11-05-12, 03:10 PM

So, I now have IL-1946 with HSFX 6 and the playable Ki-46 mod, and play it on full realism save the external views and complex engine management. The point is, that There are some planes that HSFX 6 doesnt have, and the reason I use that mod is because its the only mega mod that is compatible with patch 4.11.1 ( I use that patch because the Ki-45 mod requires it). I want to add the Ju-88G-6 Night fighter mod to it, but it is meant for Dark Blue World Mod (which uses 4.101), any way to do so, even If it means scripting? Also, I decided to go out of my Heavy/night fighter "comfort zone" for a tad and actually fly ground attack planes. I can use the IL-2 decently(mainly because of the rockets), but it is the HS-129 that I can't use effectively with bombs, all my bombs miss the tanks I drop them at. Any advice on how to bomb tanks effectively with the Hs-129, and other planes?

Red October1984 · 11-05-12, 06:01 PM

I usually guesstimate. If I want anything close to accurate, I just dive bomb.

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 11-05-12, 10:37 PM

A couple of general rules of thumb for ground attack, if your going for a truck convoy, tank coloum, or trains try attacking from direct front or behind to minimize missing the target. If the target is a bridge, factory, ships, or airfields dive bombing is your best bet.

As far as I'm aware any mod made for DBW/UP3 might work with HSFX 6 but its try at your own risk.

The newest version of UltraPack is still WIP but when it gets done the DBW will get updated too, probably.

Oberon · 11-06-12, 01:25 AM

Alternatively use a Mosquito with a cookie cutter. Not only do you take out the target vehicle, but you also take out the vehicle next to it, the one next to that, and every surrounding structure for about a quarter of a mile.

There's no kill like overkill as they say.

Otherwise, I can only echo what the two above have said, it varies from kite to kite, I think some aircraft have the Stuvi, the Stuka and the Ju-88 are two that come to mind. I'm not sure how it works but it's a highly accurate dive-bomb sight. I'm sure there are guides out there to explain how to use it, either that or Raptor might see this thread at some point and explain, he's the resident dealer of bomb shaped high explosives after all.

If you're not planning on flying online, then make a backup of your install and go ahead and try it, otherwise try and leave things as close to the original mod install as possible otherwise it'll just get messy and confusing. That's my general uneducated advice anyway.

HunterICX · 11-06-12, 07:22 AM

Real men dive bomb with a Heinkel 111 to take out a ship!

HunterICX

Raptor1 · 11-06-12, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Otherwise, I can only echo what the two above have said, it varies from kite to kite, I think some aircraft have the Stuvi, the Stuka and the Ju-88 are two that come to mind. I'm not sure how it works but it's a highly accurate dive-bomb sight. I'm sure there are guides out there to explain how to use it, either that or Raptor might see this thread at some point and explain, he's the resident dealer of bomb shaped high explosives after all.

Oh, and I thought I was the resident dealer of occasionally intentional ramming attacks. In either case, the Stuvi bombsight on the Stuka and the Ju 88 works as follows:

1. Set the altitude you want to drop the bomb at.
2. Set the airspeed you think you'll be going at when you reach at that altitude.
3. Dive at target as usual.
4. Place the cursor-thing on the target and release the bombs when you get to the altitude you set (it helpfully informs you with a horn).

After that, both aircraft are supposed to pull up automatically if you've engaged the dive brake. I think...

Zgok · 11-06-12, 10:37 PM

Thank you all for replying, I try adding the Ju-88G-6 but I get a crash at 60% loading. Unfortunately. Thanks, I shall play around with the Mosquito and the Stuka for some practice. @HunterICX Really? Oh dear, I can imagine how difficult it would be to pull up from that dive..

Zgok · 11-06-12, 11:28 PM

Blast, I just discovered a K-45 mod for 4.10..

I have to download UP3 all over again as I deleted it to install HSFX 6. On to face the 6 GB download it is, Huzzah! (x3)

11-05-12, 03:10 PM	#1
Zgok Seaman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Side 3 (Principality of Zeon) Posts: 36 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Questions about Mods, and close support planes. So, I now have IL-1946 with HSFX 6 and the playable Ki-46 mod, and play it on full realism save the external views and complex engine management. The point is, that There are some planes that HSFX 6 doesnt have, and the reason I use that mod is because its the only mega mod that is compatible with patch 4.11.1 ( I use that patch because the Ki-45 mod requires it). I want to add the Ju-88G-6 Night fighter mod to it, but it is meant for Dark Blue World Mod (which uses 4.101), any way to do so, even If it means scripting? Also, I decided to go out of my Heavy/night fighter "comfort zone" for a tad and actually fly ground attack planes. I can use the IL-2 decently(mainly because of the rockets), but it is the HS-129 that I can't use effectively with bombs, all my bombs miss the tanks I drop them at. Any advice on how to bomb tanks effectively with the Hs-129, and other planes? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

11-05-12, 06:01 PM	#2
Red October1984 Airplane Nerd Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 6,241 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	I usually guesstimate. If I want anything close to accurate, I just dive bomb. __________________

11-05-12, 10:37 PM	#3
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,244 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	A couple of general rules of thumb for ground attack, if your going for a truck convoy, tank coloum, or trains try attacking from direct front or behind to minimize missing the target. If the target is a bridge, factory, ships, or airfields dive bombing is your best bet. As far as I'm aware any mod made for DBW/UP3 might work with HSFX 6 but its try at your own risk. The newest version of UltraPack is still WIP but when it gets done the DBW will get updated too, probably. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin

11-06-12, 07:22 AM	#5
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,749 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Real men dive bomb with a Heinkel 111 to take out a ship! HunterICX __________________

11-06-12, 10:37 PM	#7
Zgok Seaman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Side 3 (Principality of Zeon) Posts: 36 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Thank you all for replying, I try adding the Ju-88G-6 but I get a crash at 60% loading. Unfortunately. Thanks, I shall play around with the Mosquito and the Stuka for some practice. @HunterICX Really? Oh dear, I can imagine how difficult it would be to pull up from that dive.. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

11-06-12, 01:25 AM	#4
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Alternatively use a Mosquito with a cookie cutter. Not only do you take out the target vehicle, but you also take out the vehicle next to it, the one next to that, and every surrounding structure for about a quarter of a mile. There's no kill like overkill as they say. Otherwise, I can only echo what the two above have said, it varies from kite to kite, I think some aircraft have the Stuvi, the Stuka and the Ju-88 are two that come to mind. I'm not sure how it works but it's a highly accurate dive-bomb sight. I'm sure there are guides out there to explain how to use it, either that or Raptor might see this thread at some point and explain, he's the resident dealer of bomb shaped high explosives after all. If you're not planning on flying online, then make a backup of your install and go ahead and try it, otherwise try and leave things as close to the original mod install as possible otherwise it'll just get messy and confusing. That's my general uneducated advice anyway.

11-06-12, 11:28 PM	#8
Zgok Seaman Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Side 3 (Principality of Zeon) Posts: 36 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	Blast, I just discovered a K-45 mod for 4.10.. I have to download UP3 all over again as I deleted it to install HSFX 6. On to face the 6 GB download it is, Huzzah! (x3) __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]