[TEC] Enemy visuals (settings in post)

Bubblehead1980 · 09-20-20, 04:55 PM

Trying to find proper balance for TMO visuals to stop hawkeyes at night so night surface attacks at realistic ranges are possible . Current settings they are not.

[Visual]
Detection time=0.5 ;[s] min detection time.
Sensitivity=0.1 ;(0..1) min detection threshold double detection time.
Fog factor=1.0 ;[>=0]
Light factor=3.0 ;[>=0]
Waves factor=3.0 ;[>=0]
Enemy surface factor=30 ;50 ;[m2]
Enemy speed factor=20 ;[kt]
Thermal Layer Signal Attenuation=1.0

I am guessing light factor is the major one. So should it be set higher or lower to allow darkness to reduce enemy visual sensors? Same for fog? Just need to know how that works before go through process of testing etc.

Remember most TMO escorts are set to veteran skill level because when set lower to "competent" they are actually incompetent, especially in submerged attacks. Even with to to veteran, could should be able to pull of night surface attacks on dark nights from respectable ranges.

Explain the surface factor?

propbeanie · 09-20-20, 09:43 PM

Increasing the light factor makes it more difficult, and I ~think~ the surface factor larger also... maybe? I determines the surface area of what the enemy has to "see" of your boat for the set time period for them to "detect" your sub...

Stock:

[Visual]
Detection time=0.5 ;[s] min detection time.
Sensitivity=0.1 ;(0..1) min detection threshold double detection time.
Fog factor=1.0 ;[>=0]
Light factor=2.5 ;[>=0]
Waves factor=4.0 ;[>=0]
Enemy surface factor=50 ;[m2]
Enemy speed factor=25 ;[kt]
Thermal Layer Signal Attenuation=1.0

Adjusting the AI - cliff notes version
From Ducimus, but there are others, and different details, but I cannot find the others as easily...

Bubblehead1980 · 09-20-20, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

Increasing the light factor makes it more difficult, and I ~think~ the surface factor larger also... maybe? I determines the surface area of what the enemy has to "see" of your boat for the set time period for them to "detect" your sub...

Stock:

[Visual]
Detection time=0.5 ;[s] min detection time.
Sensitivity=0.1 ;(0..1) min detection threshold double detection time.
Fog factor=1.0 ;[>=0]
Light factor=2.5 ;[>=0]
Waves factor=4.0 ;[>=0]
Enemy surface factor=50 ;[m2]
Enemy speed factor=25 ;[kt]
Thermal Layer Signal Attenuation=1.0

Adjusting the AI - cliff notes version
From Ducimus, but there are others, and different details, but I cannot find the others as easily...

Thanks and thank you for the link. I was searching for that tutorial by ducimus but would not come up.

propbeanie · 09-20-20, 11:10 PM

You are welcome. The way I can find it is I use a browser search engine, and then use "site:subsim.com/radioroom Ducimus Adjusting" and it will usually fall in the top 5 hits. I used to search on "editing", and it would usually be on the 2nd or 3rd page instead...

- I cannot remember the other authors of other similar write-ups, and have not been able to find theirs yet. s7rikeback has some of these in pdf on his mod gathering site... which I cannot find the link for in my bookmarks just now... sheesh!

09-20-20, 04:55 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 6,922 Downloads: 550 Uploads: 42	Enemy visuals (settings in post) Trying to find proper balance for TMO visuals to stop hawkeyes at night so night surface attacks at realistic ranges are possible . Current settings they are not. [Visual] Detection time=0.5 ;[s] min detection time. Sensitivity=0.1 ;(0..1) min detection threshold double detection time. Fog factor=1.0 ;[>=0] Light factor=3.0 ;[>=0] Waves factor=3.0 ;[>=0] Enemy surface factor=30 ;50 ;[m2] Enemy speed factor=20 ;[kt] Thermal Layer Signal Attenuation=1.0 I am guessing light factor is the major one. So should it be set higher or lower to allow darkness to reduce enemy visual sensors? Same for fog? Just need to know how that works before go through process of testing etc. Remember most TMO escorts are set to veteran skill level because when set lower to "competent" they are actually incompetent, especially in submerged attacks. Even with to to veteran, could should be able to pull of night surface attacks on dark nights from respectable ranges. Explain the surface factor?

09-20-20, 09:43 PM	#2
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	Increasing the light factor makes it more difficult, and I ~think~ the surface factor larger also... maybe? I determines the surface area of what the enemy has to "see" of your boat for the set time period for them to "detect" your sub... Stock: [Visual] Detection time=0.5 ;[s] min detection time. Sensitivity=0.1 ;(0..1) min detection threshold double detection time. Fog factor=1.0 ;[>=0] Light factor=2.5 ;[>=0] Waves factor=4.0 ;[>=0] Enemy surface factor=50 ;[m2] Enemy speed factor=25 ;[kt] Thermal Layer Signal Attenuation=1.0 Adjusting the AI - cliff notes version From Ducimus, but there are others, and different details, but I cannot find the others as easily... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

09-20-20, 11:10 PM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,743 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 2	You are welcome. The way I can find it is I use a browser search engine, and then use "site:subsim.com/radioroom Ducimus Adjusting" and it will usually fall in the top 5 hits. I used to search on "editing", and it would usually be on the 2nd or 3rd page instead... - I cannot remember the other authors of other similar write-ups, and have not been able to find theirs yet. s7rikeback has some of these in pdf on his mod gathering site... which I cannot find the link for in my bookmarks just now... sheesh! __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna