The Creation vs Evolution debate thread... - Page 11

Morts · 12-09-09, 03:59 PM

sooo....nothing new from the creationist side ?

12-09-09, 05:49 PM

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sooo....nothing new from the creationist side ?

No not really, nothing interesting at all from the creationists recently.
At least not since they settled out of court after accusing each other of unethical business practices, fraud, heresy, sexual improprierty and witchcraft.
But now they have settled their differences they will be back on track spreading the truth to the world.

Onkel Neal · 12-09-09, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Morts

sooo....nothing new from the creationist side ?

What? You know their point of view isn't likely to evolve over time.

CaptainHaplo · 12-09-09, 08:34 PM

I havent forgotten this thread - I actually am trying to digest and research all the data that I have found here. I don't believe its helpful if I don't give it some intellectually honest effort.

August · 12-09-09, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What? You know their point of view isn't likely to evolve over time.

Ooh that pun was Biblical!

Morts · 12-10-09, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

What? You know their point of view isn't likely to evolve over time.

arharharhar, have you heard of bibleution

?

12-10-09, 06:31 AM

Hmmm.
I'll have to declare neutrality as I don't by into either THEORY.
Neither should be represented as fact.

Skybird · 12-10-09, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Snestorm

Hmmm.
I'll have to declare neutrality as I don't by into either THEORY.
Neither should be represented as fact.

science, if done honestly and seriously, does not mistake theory for fact, but always means "theory" in its conclusions, which is constantly tested, where needed: corrected, and eventually replaced with a better one.

currently darwin is quite dominant, a paradigm, thus it sees very small corrections only currently, also corrections only get done when needed: due to new observations that cannot be explained by theb old theory. This slowness in change can - but must not always - speak for the quality of the theory. But it is not engraved in stone. It's just the best explanation for things we so far could have come up with.

Creationism is sold not as theory, but as pure fact, and is not tested and does not get corrected or changed. And certainly it is unavailable for eventually being replaced.

so, you are a bit wrong there when saying both science and creationism are theories:
Evolution is a theory. Creationism is a dogma.
Dogmas are unavailable for critical reflection and analysis.

12-10-09, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Evolution is a theory. Creationism is a dogma.
Dogmas are unavailable for critical reflection and analysis.

Now this, I find quite acceptable. Well stated!

August · 12-10-09, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Dogmas are unavailable for critical reflection and analysis.

Why? You do it all the time!

Fish · 12-10-09, 05:32 PM

[quote=Snestorm;1217022]Hmmm.
I'll have to declare neutrality as I don't by into either THEORY.
Neither should be represented as fact.[/quote]

As do the THEORY of gravitation.

Shearwater · 12-10-09, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

As do the THEORY of gravitation.

Do you intend to open a thread about IF?

Sailor Steve · 12-10-09, 10:37 PM

There is no such thing as gravity.

The whole earth sucks.

August · 12-11-09, 12:00 AM

Why does it blow in Wyoming?

Because Nebraska sucks...

Platapus · 12-11-09, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Why does it blow in Wyoming?

Because Nebraska sucks...

HEY!! I spent eight pretty good years in Omaha in the military. Not a bad place at all. Pbpbpbpbpb

12-09-09, 08:34 PM	#154
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 0	I havent forgotten this thread - I actually am trying to digest and research all the data that I have found here. I don't believe its helpful if I don't give it some intellectually honest effort. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,372 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	There is no such thing as gravity. The whole earth sucks. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 22,300 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Why does it blow in Wyoming? Because Nebraska sucks... __________________ . If you're sitting in public and a stranger takes the seat next to you, just stare straight ahead and say, "Did you bring the money?

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Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	sooo....nothing new from the creationist side ?

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Snestorm Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Hmmm. I'll have to declare neutrality as I don't by into either THEORY. Neither should be represented as fact.

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Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	[quote=Snestorm;1217022]Hmmm. I'll have to declare neutrality as I don't by into either THEORY. Neither should be represented as fact.[/quote] As do the THEORY of gravitation.