Battle of Britain II patch 2.08 near

[Steel_Tomb]

So where can one get BoBII? Is it available for free (legally) somewhere or do I need to buy it?

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

So where can one get BoBII? Is it available for free (legally) somewhere or do I need to buy it?

You have to buy it.

[LobsterBoy]

It's available as a download from matrix games. I don't know what version they give you as I got my copy a long time ago. Haven't played in a while and my last experience was with the 2.06 version (still installed). Could be time to update and give it another go. IL-2 has its advantages, but the AI (with the patches) and the sound (the engines sound MUCH better in BOB2) give BOB2 its own feel.

And the campaign. Well, it has one. IL-2 has a bunch of missions on the same map. BOB2 has a campaign.

[Oberon]

Went Mano-a-Mano with a 109 last night just over the coast, got a good burst into him on the first pass, his engine started putting out glycol. Second time I got behind him he broke violently to port and promptly went into a beautiful spin, I shot straight past him and had to bank sharp to starboard, it took me a couple of minutes to find him again but he was back down on the deck and trying to get away, so I dived down and got behind him again, opened up a streamer past his cockpit, and again he flung her violently to port and again she went into a spin, this time I slowed right down and began to follow him down, but we were only at about 1000 odd feet and just as he began to recover his wing clipped the sea and in he went.

[HunterICX]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Actually, I've been flying tons more BoBII than IL2 lately. Starting to be prettty bored with the latter one.

"mine, mine, mine"-attitude of Oleg.

its not a Mine Mine Mine attitude,
if you happen to know, Oleg forbidded Modding to keep ''Online'' Competition a Fair Game, I've red this somewhere some time ago.

if it would be allowed this would mean people ''could'' fly a J8A going 700KM/H with 4xMK108 cannons and make the aircraft be in a Godmode and invincible.
nice if there is no Admin around spoiling your game.
yeah, its a bit overeacting but its possible.

another nice fact:

BOB2 : 2005 (3 yrs old)
IL2 : 2001 (7 years old)

sure they could have changed some stuff in patches, but I dont know much about AI coding...but I think you'll have to modify the engine for it and start from scratch. the AI code is about 7 yrs old..dont know what was possible back then but heck I dont care, it may be annoying sometimes to see Olegs AI beeing ''perfectly'' trimmed and ''perfect'' engine managemant...but I can live with that as I know the core of the game is the same when I started to play the game in 2001 and I was overjoyed of the new Flightsim. back then there was no other game that could beat IL2.

another fact: IL2 has not really been for Single player purpose, it was made for Multiplayer, especially players versus players Competition, if you have IL2 Bonus disc you will see tons of photos from Lan-competitions
and thats IL2's strongest point.

BoBII, Campaign no doubt...that's where it wins hands down
even IL2's DCG doesnt even get close from what BOBII contains in its campaign

@Steel tomb: why we fly IL2?

because BoBII doesnt even have Multiplayer...(yet?)

HunterICX

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Went Mano-a-Mano with a 109 last night just over the coast, got a good burst into him on the first pass, his engine started putting out glycol. Second time I got behind him he broke violently to port and promptly went into a beautiful spin, I shot straight past him and had to bank sharp to starboard, it took me a couple of minutes to find him again but he was back down on the deck and trying to get away, so I dived down and got behind him again, opened up a streamer past his cockpit, and again he flung her violently to port and again she went into a spin, this time I slowed right down and began to follow him down, but we were only at about 1000 odd feet and just as he began to recover his wing clipped the sea and in he went.

What difficulty you had the AI on? If not already, I suggest to try the same fight with the highest difficulty. That's when the AI starts to use all those fancy tricks and maneuvers more.

Originally Posted by HunterICX

its not a Mine Mine Mine attitude,
if you happen to know, Oleg forbidded Modding to keep ''Online'' Competition a Fair Game, I've red this somewhere some time ago.

if it would be allowed this would mean people ''could'' fly a J8A going 700KM/H with 4xMK108 cannons and make the aircraft be in a Godmode and invincible.
nice if there is no Admin around spoiling your game.
yeah, its a bit overeacting but its possible.

another nice fact:

BOB2 : 2005 (3 yrs old)
IL2 : 2001 (7 years old)

sure they could have changed some stuff in patches, but I dont know much about AI coding...but I think you'll have to modify the engine for it and start from scratch. the AI code is about 7 yrs old..dont know what was possible back then but heck I dont care, it may be annoying sometimes to see Olegs AI beeing ''perfectly'' trimmed and ''perfect'' engine managemant...but I can live with that as I know the core of the game is the same when I started to play the game in 2001 and I was overjoyed of the new Flightsim. back then there was no other game that could beat IL2.

another fact: IL2 has not really been for Single player purpose, it was made for Multiplayer, especially players versus players Competition, if you have IL2 Bonus disc you will see tons of photos from Lan-competitions
and thats IL2's strongest point.

BoBII, Campaign no doubt...that's where it wins hands down
even IL2's DCG doesnt even get close from what BOBII contains in its campaign

@Steel tomb: why we fly IL2?

because BoBII doesnt even have Multiplayer...(yet?)

HunterICX

Sorry to bust your balls, mate, but yes, it is 'mine mine mine'. The horsepoo about fair MP is just that, horsepoo. You know, back yeaaars ago when I though of giving counter-strike a try, I was scared of numerous ppl saying "No, dont do it! It's full of cheaters!!!". Well, what ya know, took me almost a year to see a cheater, and CS had the possibility to; a)change sounds b) change textures and c) change player models.

IL2 is Oleg's "child", and only his.

[Stealth Hunter]

What year did you start playing Counter-Strike...? Until it started to use VAC2, it WAS filled with cheaters.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Stealth Hunter

What year did you start playing Counter-Strike...? Until it started to use VAC2, it WAS filled with cheaters.

I think it was called Beta 6 or Beta 5 back then. 1999 or 2000. You see very few cheaters if you keep out of the "statmonkey" maps. CS has De_dust, BF2 has Karkand etc.