SUBSIM Radio Room Forums



SUBSIM: The Web's #1 resource for all submarine & naval simulations since 1997

Go Back   SUBSIM Radio Room Forums > General > General Topics
Forget password? Reset here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-16-10, 10:14 AM   #16
NeonSamurai
Ocean Warrior
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia
Posts: 3,044
Downloads: 17
Uploads: 0


Default

Ironic a thread on global cooling has become Sky's birthday thread. But then most of us are not going to comment on an article from the daily mail.


Happy belated birthday Skybird and many more
NeonSamurai is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 11:42 AM   #17
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,340
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeonSamurai View Post
Ironic a thread on global cooling has become Sky's birthday thread.
Nobody hijacks threads like I do...! In the Chinese calender it is the year of the buccaneer!
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 12:08 PM   #18
SteamWake
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,224
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

Happy bday sky...

Now heres something from a 'little' bit more reputable source than the daily mail.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ns-to-unravel/

Quote:
But political fraud and scientific swindle can be measured by collapsing "science." The University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit in Britain was regarded as the leader in climate research and the fount of raw data on which the science was based until leaked e-mails between researchers revealed evidence of doctoring of data and manipulation of evidence.
Dont see much mention of the current weather conditions there.
__________________
Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648
SteamWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 12:15 PM   #19
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 22,632
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

I like this part:

Quote:
The global-warming hysteria, on which the Obama administration wants to base enormous new tax burdens, is just about as reliable as the weather hysteria presented nightly on your favorite television channel. Man is driven by his ego and finds it impossible to think even the weather is not all about him.
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is online   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 12:27 PM   #20
SteamWake
Rear Admiral
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 13,224
Downloads: 5
Uploads: 0
Default

This guy takes it seriously !

http://www.viddler.com/explore/failblog/videos/454/17/
__________________
Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648
SteamWake is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 01:32 PM   #21
mookiemookie
Navy Seal
 
mookiemookie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 9,404
Downloads: 105
Uploads: 1
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
I like this part:
Because it's laughable to think that man can change the environment. Just ask the herds of buffalo on the Great Plains, the Dodo birds and the passenger pigeons.
__________________
They don’t think it be like it is, but it do.

Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.
mookiemookie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 03:19 PM   #22
August
Wayfaring Stranger
 
August's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 22,632
Downloads: 0
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mookiemookie View Post
Because it's laughable to think that man can change the environment. Just ask the herds of buffalo on the Great Plains, the Dodo birds and the passenger pigeons.
And what effect exactly did the extinction of a couple species of birds have on the worlds climate?

Oh and I had extinct buffalo steaks this weekend. hmmm hmmm good!
__________________


Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.
August is online   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 03:53 PM   #23
Hitman
Pacific Aces Dev Team
 
Hitman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Spain
Posts: 6,099
Downloads: 109
Uploads: 2


Default

Late congratulations from me too Skybird

Quote:
Emaille pans. Let the cheese dry, then knock it off with a Zewa. Cleaning is easy.
Typichal Skybird reply: Don't use sheer force little grashopper, use his force against him and let his attack bleed his force, then strike back
__________________
One day I will return to sea ...
Hitman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 04:13 PM   #24
krashkart
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 5,292
Downloads: 100
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by August View Post
Oh and I had extinct buffalo steaks this weekend. hmmm hmmm good!
For shame! Were they any good??
__________________
sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard
krashkart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 04:20 PM   #25
Schroeder
Navy Seal
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Banana Republic of Germany
Posts: 6,170
Downloads: 62
Uploads: 0
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by krashkart View Post
For shame! Were they any good??
What part of
Quote:
hmmm hmmm good!
didn't you understand?
__________________
Putting Germ back into Germany.
Schroeder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 04:21 PM   #26
AVGWarhawk
Lucky Jack
 
AVGWarhawk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a 1954 Buick.
Posts: 27,339
Downloads: 90
Uploads: 0


Default

My brother in law is eating buffalo burgers now. He said the meat is fantastic. Not sure if I can try it myself.
__________________
“You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.”
― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road
AVGWarhawk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 04:29 PM   #27
Ducimus
Rear Admiral
 
Ducimus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 12,987
Downloads: 67
Uploads: 2


Default

IMO most of the anti global warming articles/posts/research/etc, is all politicaly inspired BS from industrial special interest groups who have a vested interest in keeping things status quo. Going green cuts into the profit margins and CEO's golden parachutes. Not to mention peoples natural resistance to change. There's alot that is so much engrained in our society we can't imagine the world differently.

The green movment, IMO was inspired by a bunch of tree hugging hippes. That said, i think they have something resembeling a point, or at the least, cleaning our act up couldn't hurt. As much as i hate the California smog gestapo, i remember how the LA basin looked before they really cracked down and got rid of leaded gasoline. (kinda looked like pictures of Bejing smog back then)

In any event, who's right or wrong doesn't matter to any of us personally and won't effect our lives, because none of us will be around to suffer the consequences if they are indeed real and valid. Your decendants might, but you won't, if thats any comfort.
Ducimus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 06:58 PM   #28
Reece
CINC Pacific Fleet
 
Reece's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Down Under
Posts: 32,566
Downloads: 171
Uploads: 0
Default

I had completely missed this thread till now!!
A bit late but I hope you had a happy birthday Skybird, Cheers!
__________________

Sub captains go down with their ship!
Reece is online   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 07:20 PM   #29
OneToughHerring
Stowaway
 
Posts: n/a
Downloads:
Uploads:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Schroeder View Post
What part of
didn't you understand?


Edit. This thread is totally derailed.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-10, 08:29 PM   #30
Skybird
Soaring
 
Skybird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: the mental asylum named Germany
Posts: 40,340
Downloads: 9
Uploads: 0


Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitman
Late congratulations from me too Skybird
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reece View Post
I had completely missed this thread till now!!
A bit late but I hope you had a happy birthday Skybird, Cheers!
I had. Thanks to both of you!


Quote:
Originally Posted by SteamWake View Post
Happy bday sky...


Quote:
Now heres something from a 'little' bit more reputable source than the daily mail.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ns-to-unravel/
Hardly.

There has been a discrediting of climate science in the past weeks, no denial. the email "scandal" however, claimed to have been the first step in this, still lacks the substance for quaolifying that - no matter how often you repeat to refer to it.

However, the reputation of the IPCC has been damaged in later reveleation following the - pretty much fabricated - email row. But one has to look closer here. The material in chapter 1 of the IPCC reports is the volume which is the important part that is used for political decisions. the basic statements in it are not opposed until today. there is global warming taking place, that is beyond doubt, and it also is pretty much beyond doubt that the major cause of it is man-made.

However, it seems there has been done a lot of dramatisation of effects in order to increase chances for wanted political agendas for greener policies being accepted - by spreading fear. This seems to have been possible by science heavily being corruoted by politxal lobbyists or scientists who at the same time served in a politcal and/or private-economy-related function, which is a sin for any science that tries to avoid getting corrupted. the most obvious signal for this is the controversy about the head of the IPCC board himself. But many scientists point out that this problem, that corrupts science by accepting to let science be influenced by classic interest conflicts of several of it'S influential actors, is not just about this single man. There is a self-made crisis of trustqworthiness of sciences, therefore, and that is where sceptics get their current fuel from. However, as much as the green propagandists pull the manipulative rope at their end of the spectrum, sceptics pull at their own end of the same rope. Many claims beihng raised by them, still lack ground and informational basis, or are in ignoration of data that until today is beyond doubt. the current winter this year, is shorttermed weather only. the January still has been the warmest January sinc eth ebeginning of satellite weather obsrvation, and the past ten years still have been the warmest decade since the beginning of weatehr recoridngs. A current discussion about american ground temperature measurements eventually delivering misleading data, means nothing here. Their is pretty much a cionsensus, that temperature measurements of satellites are far more reliable anyway.

As already said, the problem in trustworthiness of climate sciences is home-modade, but the scale of the substantial fraud that took place in several aspects, by far gets blown up in importance by sceptics, who see the chance to change the course of public discussion even if many of their own claims still are not suppported. It is a propaganda war going on, with massive financial interests at stake. And the green lobby allowed to get caught in this without need. Seen that way, they deserve the crisis they are in. but that does not really matter. Becasue the climate still is getting warmer, and this inevitably will have consequences. Maybe not that drastic consequences the fearmongers predict, nevertheless the changes will be massive, and global, and they will reach us - sooner or later.

And only acceopting that this developement in principle still is true can be seen as a reasonable basis for action and decision on our side. the rest is fruitless, self-destryojng conflict of ours,f ought on behalf of the ideoliogiuc or short-termed material profit of some lobby groups. We must not be so stupid to let them have their way - both the green fearmongers, and the sceptics.
__________________
If you feel nuts, consult an expert.
Skybird is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
climate, climate change, drought, global warming, hurricanes

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1995- 2024 Subsim®
"Subsim" is a registered trademark, all rights reserved.