[REQ] Scharnhorst/Bismarck - Page 2

d5j55 · 05-17-08, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ivank

looking at the Admiral Graf Spee and thought a playable Scharnhorst, or Bismarck would be sweet. anyone agree?, can anyone do this?

other than the bismarck make the tirpitz it has way more guns. just look at the 1944 version --- http://www.bismarck-class.dk/technic...t_tirpitz.html ---

miner1436 · 05-17-08, 10:28 AM

My ships: Ise: 90%, Ise conversion: 93%, Takao: 78%.

W4lt3r · 05-17-08, 10:55 AM

You're gonna release them to the public or just keep 'em as private mods, miner? I'd really like to try driving that thing.. How many small cal AA guns it has in total? (preferred picture from top and the positions marked) ^^

Im not that enlightened about the Ise's Anti Aircraft armament.. All i can recall is:
6x 16/14" dual cannons
12x (6 per side) 6" casket cannons
4x 4.7" dual anti aircraft cannons, 2 per side..

Small arms : unknown ^^

miner1436 · 05-17-08, 11:10 AM

I will release them.

ivank · 05-17-08, 12:30 PM

are they for 1.4 or 1.5?

Ishigami · 05-17-08, 12:37 PM

Thanks for the information, really looking forward to it.

I guess these ships are for 1.5 U-Boat Missions as they will use the German campaign and solo mission, right?

ivank · 05-18-08, 10:15 PM

any one been able to make something out of this idea yet? (not being pushy, just wanted to know if this will go anywhere

Xantrokoles · 05-19-08, 02:28 PM

When you check out the yamato you will see it is boring:rotfl:
I stay with this oppinion

ivank · 05-19-08, 02:57 PM

i actully liked the IJN Yamato. i have a 3D model of the Bismarck/Tirpitz in googlesketchup6 but i dont know what to do w/ it. when do you think the Ise and the heavy cruiser will be out?

Xantrokoles · 05-20-08, 06:50 AM

IMO you can forget sketchup models. It is difficult to convert them in obj. I recommend to look for the Silent hunter 3 model. It is working in SH4

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when do you think the Ise and the heavy cruiser will be out?

This question goes to Miner1436.

ivank · 05-20-08, 05:16 PM

can we improve the graphics on the SH3 models? b/c i would enjoy better graphics?

miner1436 · 05-20-08, 05:19 PM

The cruiser and Ise BBs will be out after my exams are over.

Xypher · 05-21-08, 12:45 AM

While the idea is pretty damn cool there is one huge problem i have with trying to use the big guns in SH4.

One) Unless there is no damage control there is no way to know whats happening or if your ship is in critical condition.

Two) Your alone, While being a one sub is OK. Without any kind of support your a single target for a whole fleet

Three) It seems that the AI has no idea how to send air attacks after your BB, so all you rally see are small scout groups... food for such a large ship. Carriers just dance around before taking a shell in the side like they forgot how to scramble planes.

Four) ANY ship can see you and fire on you well before you can make visual contact. Apperently Fletchers can out range a yammy...

This seems to be a just for fun only idea at the moment, unless you can get some kind of escort or maybe some tweaks to gun ballistics and AI sight range modifactions this a just for fun mode. I would love to be able to go round for round agaisnt another BB, but its just not there yet

W4lt3r · 05-21-08, 09:57 AM

Xypher, i know this issue aswell and seems like it's the limited # of deck watch members is the one that affects the maximum range, this has like 3 while the PBB had 5 or 6, and the PBB spotters can see up to 18km or so.

IF xan could teach how to alternate the # of crew on the ship, i'd add at least to the deck watch. :hmm: And trust me, i've adjusted the values so that the spotters can see up to 18km in PBB Mod, im yet to do some tests on how to boost the maximum sight range for the Yamato.

Xypher · 05-21-08, 11:24 AM

Well i hope it changes soon, i would really like see something come from this. It might have to be a little arcade like to really be fun though. Because in a realistic setting there is no way that a BB will be able to chase down a strike force by its self and mow it down. And i dont want to just be chasing down convoys... but with huge guns instead of torps.

05-19-08, 02:28 PM	#23
Xantrokoles Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 659 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	When you check out the yamato you will see it is boring:rotfl: I stay with this oppinion __________________

05-17-08, 10:28 AM	#17
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 3	My ships: Ise: 90%, Ise conversion: 93%, Takao: 78%.

05-17-08, 10:55 AM	#18
W4lt3r Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 222 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	You're gonna release them to the public or just keep 'em as private mods, miner? I'd really like to try driving that thing.. How many small cal AA guns it has in total? (preferred picture from top and the positions marked) ^^ Im not that enlightened about the Ise's Anti Aircraft armament.. All i can recall is: 6x 16/14" dual cannons 12x (6 per side) 6" casket cannons 4x 4.7" dual anti aircraft cannons, 2 per side.. Small arms : unknown ^^

05-17-08, 11:10 AM	#19
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 3	I will release them.

05-17-08, 12:30 PM	#20
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	are they for 1.4 or 1.5?

05-17-08, 12:37 PM	#21
Ishigami Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 177 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the information, really looking forward to it. I guess these ships are for 1.5 U-Boat Missions as they will use the German campaign and solo mission, right?

05-18-08, 10:15 PM	#22
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	any one been able to make something out of this idea yet? (not being pushy, just wanted to know if this will go anywhere

05-19-08, 02:57 PM	#24
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	i actully liked the IJN Yamato. i have a 3D model of the Bismarck/Tirpitz in googlesketchup6 but i dont know what to do w/ it. when do you think the Ise and the heavy cruiser will be out?

05-20-08, 05:16 PM	#26
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	can we improve the graphics on the SH3 models? b/c i would enjoy better graphics?

05-20-08, 05:19 PM	#27
miner1436 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 808 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 3	The cruiser and Ise BBs will be out after my exams are over.

05-21-08, 12:45 AM	#28
Xypher Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	While the idea is pretty damn cool there is one huge problem i have with trying to use the big guns in SH4. One) Unless there is no damage control there is no way to know whats happening or if your ship is in critical condition. Two) Your alone, While being a one sub is OK. Without any kind of support your a single target for a whole fleet Three) It seems that the AI has no idea how to send air attacks after your BB, so all you rally see are small scout groups... food for such a large ship. Carriers just dance around before taking a shell in the side like they forgot how to scramble planes. Four) ANY ship can see you and fire on you well before you can make visual contact. Apperently Fletchers can out range a yammy... This seems to be a just for fun only idea at the moment, unless you can get some kind of escort or maybe some tweaks to gun ballistics and AI sight range modifactions this a just for fun mode. I would love to be able to go round for round agaisnt another BB, but its just not there yet

05-21-08, 09:57 AM	#29
W4lt3r Ensign Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 222 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Xypher, i know this issue aswell and seems like it's the limited # of deck watch members is the one that affects the maximum range, this has like 3 while the PBB had 5 or 6, and the PBB spotters can see up to 18km or so. IF xan could teach how to alternate the # of crew on the ship, i'd add at least to the deck watch. :hmm: And trust me, i've adjusted the values so that the spotters can see up to 18km in PBB Mod, im yet to do some tests on how to boost the maximum sight range for the Yamato.

05-21-08, 11:24 AM	#30
Xypher Watch Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 29 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Well i hope it changes soon, i would really like see something come from this. It might have to be a little arcade like to really be fun though. Because in a realistic setting there is no way that a BB will be able to chase down a strike force by its self and mow it down. And i dont want to just be chasing down convoys... but with huge guns instead of torps.