VIIc engine-room - Page 15

Admiral Von Gerlach · 11-03-09, 06:25 PM

wonderful. You are at work again

thank you so much.

Tomi_099 · 11-03-09, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Von Gerlach

wonderful. You are at work again

thank you so much.

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Yes my friend, I still have the problem with the 3Finger.
I only have to be careful that I do not exaggerate.
Otherwise I get hurt.

How stupid of me.

NZsnowman · 11-04-09, 04:27 AM

Hi Tomi.

What way did you run this pipe (Green pipe - Red Arrow) to the bow or the stern of the boat?

Thanks, Simon.

Tomi_099 · 11-04-09, 06:06 AM

Sorry, I must correct myself.
This pipe goes round down to the other, and on the tank.
It is a green pipe

NZsnowman · 11-04-09, 02:34 PM

Sad news

My engine is approximately 108 mm (real world) to small or 2.5 mm on my drawing at 1:43 scale. Will have to fix that tomorrow

Can not have the engine drawing 2.5 mm too small

NZsnowman · 11-04-09, 06:03 PM

Hi Tomi

Not sure how you scale your engine with rest of the U-boat, but here how I did it

The U-Boat ribbings through the engine room are space 600 mm. I have set up my U-boat drawing to be 100% correct for all the ribbings and frames base on real German U-Boat measurements (You got to love 1/1000 of an mm drawing precision software

). All my measurements for my drawings are base on the ribbings and frames! I needed a way to scale the engine with the ribbings and frames. This morning I found a way to do this.

I found on the Engine plans two pipe outlets (Fig. 1) and I found these pipes outlets on a U-boat plan (Fig. 2). All I had to do was match the width of these pipes outlets with the Lightening holes between the ribbings.

Simon

Fig 1

Fig 2

NZsnowman · 11-04-09, 10:08 PM

Hi Tomi

I found these two round opens (Fig 2 - Blue circle) and there look like there are four other

Simon

Fig 1

Fig 2

Tomi_099 · 11-05-09, 05:08 AM

Good work my friend.
When it comes to the Corel Graphics Phaint Shop Pro Photo XI is a very good Program,

it has a good future, as can convert pdf format into Jpg.
Scaling an image is not a problem.

Good work my friend,
it is important and very good to see how the pipes run.
I have often spent hours to figure out how to pipes goas .
Is just a pity that we have so little drawings and have to imagine things.

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Gute Arbeit mein Freund .
Wenn es um Graphik geht ist der Corel phaint shop Pro Photo XI ein sehr gutes
Programm, es hat gute Future wie das man Pdf Formate in Jpg umwandeln kann.
Das Skalieren eines Bildes ist bei solchen Programmen kein Problem.

Gute Arbeit mein Freund es ist wichtig und sehr gut zu sehe wie die Rohre verlaufen.
Ich habe oft Stunden verbracht um herauszufinden wie und Sie hinführen.
Schade ist nur das wir so wenig Zeichnungen haben und sich vieles vorstellen muss.

Tomi_099 · 11-05-09, 08:24 PM

Who can help?

NZsnowman · 11-05-09, 11:06 PM

Hi Tomi

Not sure

I will look into it.

Simon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi_099

Who can help?

NZsnowman · 11-05-09, 11:17 PM

Hi Tomi

After spending 4 hours looking at piping plans

I have work out the pipe layout for the two outlet pipe from the engine.

The outlets (Green arrows) flow (Red arrows) to the value and out into the two tanks (Orange arrows)

NZsnowman · 11-05-09, 11:45 PM

Hi Tomi

If you look at the Plate 14A: Engine lubricating oil system, the valve symbol look like there is only one valve with a handle, the second valve is control by the first.

Simon

Update: Now I am not to sure what do you think Tomi?

Tomi_099 · 11-06-09, 05:30 AM

Ja du hast recht, allerdings ist das Rohr genau auf der gegenüberliegenden Seite.
Dort steht die Aufschrift Motorölvorratstank 2.
Links auf den Bild sehe ich wo das hinläuft , könntest du auch die rechte Seite zeigen ??

Danke mein freund. Sehr gute Arbeit hast du gemacht!!

Yes you are right, but the tube just on the opposite side.
There, the oil storage tank 2 ( Motorölvorratstank2 )is labeled

Left to the image I see where the gon, you could also show the right side?
This is the small pipe shown here.

Thank you my friend. Very good work have you done!

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Myxale · 11-06-09, 07:45 AM

Hammer sache alter!!

NZsnowman · 11-07-09, 02:31 AM

After 6 hours of research and 3 hours of drawing

Fig. 1. A system of piping.

Fig. 2. Piping from the engine outlets.

Fig. 3. Closeup view of the valve.

11-03-09, 06:25 PM	#211
Admiral Von Gerlach Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Colorado and California Posts: 726 Downloads: 358 Uploads: 0	wonderful. You are at work again thank you so much. __________________ Erlaubnis an Bord zu kommen.

11-04-09, 04:27 AM	#213
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Pipe? Hi Tomi. What way did you run this pipe (Green pipe - Red Arrow) to the bow or the stern of the boat? Thanks, Simon.

11-04-09, 06:06 AM	#214
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	pipes Sorry, I must correct myself. This pipe goes round down to the other, and on the tank. It is a green pipe __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com Last edited by Tomi_099; 11-04-09 at 07:18 AM.

11-04-09, 06:03 PM	#216
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Scale 1:43 Hi Tomi Not sure how you scale your engine with rest of the U-boat, but here how I did it The U-Boat ribbings through the engine room are space 600 mm. I have set up my U-boat drawing to be 100% correct for all the ribbings and frames base on real German U-Boat measurements (You got to love 1/1000 of an mm drawing precision software ). All my measurements for my drawings are base on the ribbings and frames! I needed a way to scale the engine with the ribbings and frames. This morning I found a way to do this. I found on the Engine plans two pipe outlets (Fig. 1) and I found these pipes outlets on a U-boat plan (Fig. 2). All I had to do was match the width of these pipes outlets with the Lightening holes between the ribbings. Simon Fig 1 Fig 2 Last edited by NZsnowman; 11-04-09 at 10:10 PM.

11-05-09, 05:08 AM	#218
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	Gute Arbeit !! Good work my friend. When it comes to the Corel Graphics Phaint Shop Pro Photo XI is a very good Program, it has a good future, as can convert pdf format into Jpg. Scaling an image is not a problem. Good work my friend, it is important and very good to see how the pipes run. I have often spent hours to figure out how to pipes goas . Is just a pity that we have so little drawings and have to imagine things. ----------------------------------- Gute Arbeit mein Freund . Wenn es um Graphik geht ist der Corel phaint shop Pro Photo XI ein sehr gutes Programm, es hat gute Future wie das man Pdf Formate in Jpg umwandeln kann. Das Skalieren eines Bildes ist bei solchen Programmen kein Problem. Gute Arbeit mein Freund es ist wichtig und sehr gut zu sehe wie die Rohre verlaufen. Ich habe oft Stunden verbracht um herauszufinden wie und Sie hinführen. Schade ist nur das wir so wenig Zeichnungen haben und sich vieles vorstellen muss. __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com

11-04-09, 02:34 PM	#215
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Sad news My engine is approximately 108 mm (real world) to small or 2.5 mm on my drawing at 1:43 scale. Will have to fix that tomorrow Can not have the engine drawing 2.5 mm too small

11-04-09, 10:08 PM	#217
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Hi Tomi I found these two round opens (Fig 2 - Blue circle) and there look like there are four other Simon Fig 1 Fig 2

11-05-09, 08:24 PM	#219
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	?-?-? Who can help? __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com

11-05-09, 11:17 PM	#221
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Pipe System Hi Tomi After spending 4 hours looking at piping plans I have work out the pipe layout for the two outlet pipe from the engine. The outlets (Green arrows) flow (Red arrows) to the value and out into the two tanks (Orange arrows)

11-05-09, 11:45 PM	#222
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	valve Hi Tomi If you look at the Plate 14A: Engine lubricating oil system, the valve symbol look like there is only one valve with a handle, the second valve is control by the first. Simon Update: Now I am not to sure what do you think Tomi? Last edited by NZsnowman; 11-06-09 at 02:01 AM.

11-06-09, 05:30 AM	#223
Tomi_099 The Old Man Join Date: May 2007 Location: München / Germany Posts: 1,486 Downloads: 426 Uploads: 0	Hmm ?? Ja du hast recht, allerdings ist das Rohr genau auf der gegenüberliegenden Seite. Dort steht die Aufschrift Motorölvorratstank 2. Links auf den Bild sehe ich wo das hinläuft , könntest du auch die rechte Seite zeigen ?? Danke mein freund. Sehr gute Arbeit hast du gemacht!! Yes you are right, but the tube just on the opposite side. There, the oil storage tank 2 ( Motorölvorratstank2 )is labeled Left to the image I see where the gon, you could also show the right side? This is the small pipe shown here. Thank you my friend. Very good work have you done! ####### [/quote] __________________ http://www.thegreywolves.com Last edited by Tomi_099; 11-06-09 at 05:42 AM.

11-06-09, 07:45 AM	#224
Myxale Admiral Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: PQ AN 25 Posts: 2,178 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	Hammer sache alter!! __________________ SH3+GWX SH5+WoS Still Sailing....still Deep

11-07-09, 02:31 AM	#225
NZsnowman Machinist's Mate Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 127 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Pipe System After 6 hours of research and 3 hours of drawing Fig. 1. A system of piping. Fig. 2. Piping from the engine outlets. Fig. 3. Closeup view of the valve.