US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by MaDef

I was being facetious.

I was being serious.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Guam will capsize at any time.

This gentleman is an idiot.

That's putting it mildly.

[Onkel Neal]

[August]

Dude! Spoiler alert that stuff!

[Rockstar]

[JU_88]

[Onkel Neal]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elect...ous/ar-AAK5nO8

Fear That Good News for the President is Bad News for the Democrats

The stock market is roaring. Unemployment is at a record low. The economy added 266,000 new jobs in November. Though these things are objectively good, of course, they are less good if you are a Democrat and you don’t want the current president to get credit for anything that might help him get re-elected.

It's so little reported, how well the economy is doing. If Obama was in office now we would be hearing about the great economic boom.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

It's so little reported, how well the economy is doing. If Obama was in office now we would be hearing about the great economic boom.

With that kind of news? If Obama was office they would be promoting and voting on a third term

[Buddahaid]

Christmas bump of temp jobs.

[Rockstar]

Just an FYI these real honest to goodness lawyers having a constructive Q&A. It should be easy to discern the difference between them and armchair lawyers. Unfortunetly you wont see Schiff offering any legal opinions here. I think he's too busy making the rounds on those late night comedy shows.

[FeatsOfStrength]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Hunter Biden is busy bedding his dead brothers wife and siring a child with another woman. He is a real piece of work. I think the stink on Hunter Biden runs deeper then we know.

Donald Trump slept with porn star Stormy Daniels, and then with Karen McDougal and paid both of them off with campaign funds. Michael Cohen went to jail for it... all whilst married to the First Lady, Melania Trump. Donald Trump used the money from his charitable foundation as his personal piggy bank without giving a penny to charity (until forced by court order), including money from a veteran's fundraiser. Donald Trump dodged the draft due to "Bone Spurs" and denigrated John McCain an American war hero. Man, this list could go on all day..

He is a real piece of work. I think the stink on Donald Trump runs deeper than we know.

[August]

Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

Donald Trump slept with porn star Stormy Daniels, and then with Karen McDougal and paid both of them off with campaign funds. Michael Cohen went to jail for it... all whilst married to the First Lady, Melania Trump. Donald Trump used the money from his charitable foundation as his personal piggy bank without giving a penny to charity (until forced by court order), including money from a veteran's fundraiser. Donald Trump dodged the draft due to "Bone Spurs" and denigrated John McCain an American war hero. Man, this list could go on all day..

He is a real piece of work. I think the stink on Donald Trump runs deeper than we know.

So what?

The nation knew all about Trump when we elected him. The Democrats hypocritically want to pretend they are morally outraged but the fact is they were perfectly fine with all of that stuff until he became a Republican, just like they were fine with that sexual predator Bill Clinton raping his way through two terms as president, flying out to orgy island what 0ver 20 times with his pedophile buddy Epstein to molest underage girls.

The real stinky pieces of work are the Democrats and I think the next election will reflect that.

[FeatsOfStrength]

Originally Posted by August

So what?

The nation knew all about Trump when we elected him. The Democrats hypocritically want to pretend they are morally outraged but the fact is they were perfectly fine with all of that stuff until he became a Republican, just like they were fine with that sexual predator Bill Clinton raping his way through two terms as president, flying out to orgy island what 0ver 20 times with his pedophile buddy Epstein to molest underage girls.

The real stinky pieces of work are the Democrats and I think the next election will reflect that.

Well actually in the examples of misconduct, the actual affairs are not the issue it's the fact that he used campaign funds to try and shut down the story that is the issue, breaking the law.

It's the same with the current impeachment hearings, it's not the "deep state" or Democrats with a chip on their shoulder trying to take him down for partisan reasons, it's literally the fact that President Trump committed misconduct in asking a foreign government to investigate his main political rival in the forthcoming election. The White House doesn't even deny it, which is sad considering if he had any actual intent on investigating serious misconduct connected to the democrats he would have asked the DOJ to do it, not back channels involving Rudy Giuliani and the resulting Quid Pro Quo shakedown of the Ukranian Government who he only wanted to announce an investigation, clearly so he would be able to use it against Biden in 2020.

I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the word, but I can still see that this is seriously wrong and that the credibility of the United States fundamental democratic and constitutional ideals are in serious doubt if there are no consequences.

[August]

Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

Well actually in the examples of misconduct, the actual affairs are not the issue it's the fact that he used campaign funds to try and shut down the story that is the issue, breaking the law.

But he didn't use campaign funds, he used his own funds which he is legally able to do. Believe me if there was any substance to those charges congress would certainly have included them in order to bolster their impeachment coup attempt. It is so ridiculously weak they could not have passed it up but there is no case there and they know it.

As for Biden just because he is running for the democrat party nomination it does not make him immune to investigation of past crimes as much as the liberals want that to be the de facto law of the land. Biden bragged publicly about his own quid pro quo effort and Trump has every right to make sure that he's not going to get away with it, just as he has every right to make sure Ukraine is going to take their corruption issues seriously before we hand over a boatload of lethal aid. Given what happened to that billion dollars Biden used to get the heat off his kid it's a perfectly reasonable request to make.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by FeatsOfStrength

Donald Trump slept with porn star Stormy Daniels, and then with Karen McDougal and paid both of them off with campaign funds. Michael Cohen went to jail for it... all whilst married to the First Lady, Melania Trump. Donald Trump used the money from his charitable foundation as his personal piggy bank without giving a penny to charity (until forced by court order), including money from a veteran's fundraiser. Donald Trump dodged the draft due to "Bone Spurs" and denigrated John McCain an American war hero. Man, this list could go on all day..

He is a real piece of work. I think the stink on Donald Trump runs deeper than we know.

You're right, I won't argue with any of that. Trump is pretty much the worst person as President I've seen in my lifetime. But, what was the alternative in 2016? Do I need to post that picture again? Is 2020 going to offer us a better alternative?

Even though Trump is a bona fide huckster and degenerate, you have to admit he is getting a few things right. The economy is has responded to tax cuts and trimming regulations, he's called China out for their bad practices, and he is attempting to limit illegal immigration (while the Dems want to throw the borders wide open and provide tax payer funded health care to illegals).