Ai subs in Sh4, how important it for you - Page 2

Tarnish_UK · 10-06-06, 05:13 PM

I'm about a 1/4 of the way into reading "Thunder Below!" and already there have been several mentions of possible encounters with IJN subs , particularly midgit subs. I'm in agreement with the opinion that at least AI IJN subs should be included. My first subsim was Silent Service on the C64 many moons ago and with SH4 being what a 4th/5th/6th Generation subsim? Well then I would really hope that a feature that was obviously such an important one during the real wartime events be included in the final product. Obviously the ideal would be AI and playable IJN and US subs to confront or wolfpack with respectively but I appreciate there's no chance of that. I'd quite happily see the game delayed for AI subs to be implemented, I've still got SH3 to keep me amused after all.

Sulikate · 10-07-06, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

If we cant drive them, we should at least be able to shoot them.

Agreed.

Hylander_1314 · 10-08-06, 01:43 AM

If they have the time and resources available, then yes, but it won't break my heart if they aren't able to get it in the sim by the deadline, whatever that may be.

JU_88 · 10-14-06, 07:12 AM

I think it will be pretty pathetic if they cant manage it this time round...

Safe-Keeper · 10-14-06, 04:09 PM

I made this little sub vs. sub mission in a Norwegian fjord in Silent Hunter III, and it was actually quite nerve-wrecking. You know that S-Class is there someplace, and then all of a sudden this submarine icon pops up right next to you.

If done right (with good AI), computer-controlled submarines can add a lot to the game.

tycho102 · 10-16-06, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JU_88

It was missing in SH3, considering this is a dynamic naval sim how important do think computer controlled subs in SH4 is....
No matter which side the subs are on (or both), thats not relevant. just weather the devs should take the time to include Sub AI this time around.

*IF* they get all the other bugs worked out, and *IF* they get all the allied subs working properly. (that is already a tall order)

I'd like to see AI subs. Not real important to me. It might be interesting to be able to coordinate some kind of balanced attack.

JU_88 · 10-16-06, 01:49 PM

It would be nice to get ambushed by the odd japanese sub too, (very occasionally) it would break up the usual aircraft and escort combo (which can get predictable after a while) and keep us on our toes.

fire-fox · 10-20-06, 09:41 AM

well from he books that i have read about (and in my opinan) most of the IJN ships that were sunk in the early part of the Pasific sub war where subs (I-24 ext.) and if any one here, which there will be can fire up SH 1 then just try to run a campan with out runing into about 1 or 2 IJN subs evary other mission.

yubba · 12-24-19, 11:44 AM

start a thread but found this,, Cold Waters I can't play on this machine but SH-4 nukes I can

Col7777 · 04-05-20, 10:28 AM

I recently returned to SH and funny enough I was only thinking it would be great to have AI subs.
I remember SergButo in SH2 made some and they worked good, I made a few missions using them as a Wolfpack, it was great fun.

Sorry if this is an old thread but a vote yes from me too although a bit late lol.

Col.

yubba · 11-15-20, 04:59 PM

Bump,, I got a couple of Destroyers in 1.4 that could stand to have depth charges playable.

Armistead · 11-22-20, 06:34 PM

I actually found one of those submerged Japanese midget subs in the Bungo going 10 kts, obvious no AI, didn't attack and barely underwater. After many attempts I was able to get under it and catch it between my deckgun and conning tower and took it all the way back to base. No medal given...

KaleunMarco · 11-24-20, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I actually found one of those submerged Japanese midget subs in the Bungo going 10 kts, obvious no AI, didn't attack and barely underwater. After many attempts I was able to get under it and catch it between my deckgun and conning tower and took it all the way back to base. No medal given...

what a ripoff.

i would have given you a medal.

l02turner · 12-20-20, 11:50 AM

I'd like to see it. It would add a level of realism that was present in WW2. From IJN adversaries to spar with to fellow USN boats to create wolf packs & attack convoys, I think it would dramatically add to the realism of the game.

View Poll Results: Are AI / computer controlled subs impotant to you?
YES !Ai subs is a must! Weather it be US subs to collaberate with, IJN subs for engagement or BOTH	71	62.83%
I would be nice but not a deal breaker for me	38	33.63%
Not an issue at all, i can handle being the only sub in the whole ocean	4	3.54%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

10-06-06, 05:13 PM	#16
Tarnish_UK Watch Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Southampton, UK Posts: 28 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I'm about a 1/4 of the way into reading "Thunder Below!" and already there have been several mentions of possible encounters with IJN subs , particularly midgit subs. I'm in agreement with the opinion that at least AI IJN subs should be included. My first subsim was Silent Service on the C64 many moons ago and with SH4 being what a 4th/5th/6th Generation subsim? Well then I would really hope that a feature that was obviously such an important one during the real wartime events be included in the final product. Obviously the ideal would be AI and playable IJN and US subs to confront or wolfpack with respectively but I appreciate there's no chance of that. I'd quite happily see the game delayed for AI subs to be implemented, I've still got SH3 to keep me amused after all. Last edited by Tarnish_UK; 10-06-06 at 05:17 PM.

10-08-06, 01:43 AM	#18
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	If they have the time and resources available, then yes, but it won't break my heart if they aren't able to get it in the sim by the deadline, whatever that may be. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

10-14-06, 04:09 PM	#20
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I made this little sub vs. sub mission in a Norwegian fjord in Silent Hunter III, and it was actually quite nerve-wrecking. You know that S-Class is there someplace, and then all of a sudden this submarine icon pops up right next to you. If done right (with good AI), computer-controlled submarines can add a lot to the game. __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

10-20-06, 09:41 AM	#23
fire-fox Chief Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Peoples Republic of West Yorkshire Posts: 325 Downloads: 70 Uploads: 0	well from he books that i have read about (and in my opinan) most of the IJN ships that were sunk in the early part of the Pasific sub war where subs (I-24 ext.) and if any one here, which there will be can fire up SH 1 then just try to run a campan with out runing into about 1 or 2 IJN subs evary other mission. __________________ Running subs aground since SH1 and Silent Service Running SH5 @ 100% difficulty + TWoS 2.2.19(RealNav + BDU + port smoke + food) + Carotio_IntercontinentalRadioPack tweaked + The Little Ships of SH5 - Coaster Pack

10-14-06, 07:12 AM	#19
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I think it will be pretty pathetic if they cant manage it this time round...

10-16-06, 01:49 PM	#22
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,727 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	It would be nice to get ambushed by the odd japanese sub too, (very occasionally) it would break up the usual aircraft and escort combo (which can get predictable after a while) and keep us on our toes.

12-24-19, 11:44 AM	#24
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Bump was going to start a thread but found this,, Cold Waters I can't play on this machine but SH-4 nukes I can

04-05-20, 10:28 AM	#25
Col7777 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 944 Downloads: 260 Uploads: 0	I recently returned to SH and funny enough I was only thinking it would be great to have AI subs. I remember SergButo in SH2 made some and they worked good, I made a few missions using them as a Wolfpack, it was great fun. Sorry if this is an old thread but a vote yes from me too although a bit late lol. Col. __________________ Silent and Violent

11-15-20, 04:59 PM	#26
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Bump,, I got a couple of Destroyers in 1.4 that could stand to have depth charges playable.

11-22-20, 06:34 PM	#27
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,864 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I actually found one of those submerged Japanese midget subs in the Bungo going 10 kts, obvious no AI, didn't attack and barely underwater. After many attempts I was able to get under it and catch it between my deckgun and conning tower and took it all the way back to base. No medal given... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

12-20-20, 11:50 AM	#29
l02turner Soundman Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Va Posts: 143 Downloads: 167 Uploads: 0	AI Subs in SH4 - A Survey I'd like to see it. It would add a level of realism that was present in WW2. From IJN adversaries to spar with to fellow USN boats to create wolf packs & attack convoys, I think it would dramatically add to the realism of the game.