Ship recognition

[toni007]

Hi all. I am interested does anyone know if captain logbook lists ship type sunk accurately even if you misidentified the ship manually before?

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by toni007

Hi all. I am interested does anyone know if captain logbook lists ship type sunk accurately even if you misidentified the ship manually before?

Yes, always

[toni007]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Yes, always

That means I was very accurate in ship recognition

Thanks for your help!

[Fifi]

Interesting thing is in real life, they didn’t have 100% accurate log book.
They (the kaleun) had to estimate the ship tonnage, and quite often even had to ask (a ship sailor survival) for ship name, and then find the tonnage...
I wish we could have something like that in SH3

[Eastwa]

There is the SH3 log creator.

It replaces the captains Log and you have to keep a track of the ships you sink with estimated tonnage then enter it in at the end of the patrol and BDU either accepts or deny's your claim.

Its good fun.

[derstosstrupp]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Interesting thing is in real life, they didn’t have 100% accurate log book.
They (the kaleun) had to estimate the ship tonnage, and quite often even had to ask (a ship sailor survival) for ship name, and then find the tonnage...
I wish we could have something like that in SH3

Very true! Best thing to do if you’re interested in historical play is to just not look at the rec manual, unless you’ve got something like a capital ship or other well-documented warship.

[Fifi]

Originally Posted by Eastwa

There is the SH3 log creator.

It replaces the captains Log and you have to keep a track of the ships you sink with estimated tonnage then enter it in at the end of the patrol and BDU either accepts or deny's your claim.

Its good fun.

Do you have a link to original thread or download please?

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by Fifi

Do you have a link to original thread or download please?

Fifi,

Look at SH3 Log Tool by LGN1, that is most likely what your looking for :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/bur3k0...g_v1.0.7z/file

Here's the readme ;

SH3 Log Tool Readme

Version 1.0

Written by LGN1, Feb. 2015

Hi,

Have you ever wondered how your crew in SH3 can tell you that you have just sunken a ship although the ship is more than 10km away and you are heavily depth-charged? Probably not, because it's obviously completely unrealistic that your crew knows exactly which ships you have sunken, how large these were, of what kind they were,...

The aim of the present mod/app is to change this unrealistic aspect of SH3 by removing/hiding your successes as much as possible during a patrol. Now it's you (instead of the spy-sat log) who has to pay attention which ships sink, how large they are,... Now YOU must properly identify the targets, witness the sinking, keep a log, and...report to BdU after the patrol via the mod/app. BdU will then check your report...and decide what to believe. Here's an example:

Pic2.jpg

BdUdoubts.jpg

LogBdUdoubts.jpg


How it works:
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The mod removes/hides your results during a patrol as good as possible. In addition, the information is hidden in the menu screens, i.e., you cannot accidently see the results in a menu screen. During a patrol you must keep notes about your sinkings,... After a patrol you start the app and enter your data (see Pic1.jpg and Pic2.jpg). After submitting the data, your claimed results are checked and (internally) compared to the true results. Depending on the difference, BdU will accept or reject the claims.


Installation:
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The app is a perl script converted to an executable. If you want you can open the executable (e.g., with 7zip) and see what the script does. You must copy the executable to the directory where SH3 stores the save-games/careers (usually ...\Documents\SH3\data\cfg). It should be in the same directory as, e.g., GameplaySettings.cfg, main.cfg, and the Careers folder. I recommend to send a link to your desktop to easily start/access the app.

To hide the information from your SH3 installation, you have to do the following (for stock GWX and NYGM the changes are included in a jsgme-ready mod):


1.) Remove command for accessing captain's log. The standard key is 'k' (players with enough self-discipline can skip this):

[Cmd65]
Name=Toggle_captain_log
Ctxt=1
;Key0=0x4B,,"K" <-- put a semicolon in front of this line


2.) Remove icons for sunken/destroyed units. Copy the files AirDestroyed.tga and ShipDestroyed.tga to ...\data\Menu\Gui\Units.


3.) Change the text entries 582,583(Screen when ending patrol); 4140, 4141, 4142(Crew message for sinking),4173, 4174, 4175, 4176(Status reports):

de_menu.txt:
582=Einsatz beendet|||||||Anfangsbesatzung:|Endbesatzung:
583=;%d|%d|%d|%d|%d|%d
4140=Folge festgelegtem Kurs! ;Feindliche Einheit zerstört
4141=Folge festgelegtem Kurs! ;Verbündete Einheit zerstört
4142=Folge festgelegtem Kurs! ;Neutrale Einheit zerstört
4173=Tanker versenkt. ;Versenkte Tanker: %d
4174=Frachter versenkt. ;Versenkte Frachter: %d
4175=Kriegsschiff(e) versenkt. ;Versenkte Kriegsschiffe: %d
4176=;Gesamttonnage: %d

en_menu.txt:
582=Mission ended|||||||Starting crew:|Ending crew:
583=;%d|%d|%d|%d|%d|%d
4140=Following plotted course!;She's going down!
4141=Following plotted course!;She's going down!
4142=Following plotted course!;She's going down!
4173=Tanker(s) sunk.;: %d
4174=Cargo ship(s) sunk.;: %d
4175=Warship(s) sunk.;: %d
4176=;Total tonnage: %d


4.) Adjust positions in menu.ini:

[G08 I2]
Name=Hist
Type=1040;Scroll text
ItemID=0x8000002
ParentID=0x8000000
;Pos=623,589,389,468
Pos=623,589,389,180

5.) The following two entries remove the renown value on the main campaign screen.
NYGM players can see on this screen their true tonnage value (probably only critical for first patrol).

[G04 I2]; (Not required for players using renown system, i.e., non-NYGM players)
Name=Layer
Type=1030;Static bmp
ItemID=0x4000009
ParentID=0x4000000
;Pos=57,270,233,270
Pos=1157,270,233,270

[G04 I3]; (Not required for players using renown system, i.e., non-NYGM players)
Name=Desc
Type=1029;Static text
ItemID=0x400000A
ParentID=0x4000000
;Pos=85,260,188,250
Pos=85,90,188,100

6.) Players who use the ship-name feature in SH3 Commander should open the file 'Ship names.cfg' (located in the cfg folder in their SH3 Commander installation) and use the following parameters:

[SETTINGS]
...
AddText=1

[TEXT]
AddAsNewLine=1

If only ship names should be added (and no cargo information and losses), set 'AddText=0'. In case of 'AddText=1' always choose 'AddAsNewLine=1'.

For the ship-name feature to work properly it is neccessary to use exactly the same name for the type as in the EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg in the Sea folder of the SH3 installation. I recommend to put a copy of the EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg into the same folder as the executable. The log executable will read this file and offer all the names in a drop-down menu (the included EnglishNames.cfg/GermanNames.cfg is from GWX).


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Some important notes:
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1) This script is probably not 100% foolproof. Unreasonable input parameters may lead to messed-up output.
It is not checked whether the input parameters make sense. I recommend to leave the backup-option always ticked.

2) Feel free to modify/improve the script as you wish. If you do so, please share it with others. The script is probably not very elegant, but straight-forward. If you have any question don't hesitate to ask.

3) Use at own risk! Please post any feedback here at Subsim:


Thanks to sublynx and to BigWalley for testing.


Cheers, LGN1

Not for comercial use!


Good hunting,
FUBAR295

[Fifi]

Thank you Fubar

[LGN1]

Hi,


I'm glad someone is still using this old mod! Here is the original thread with discussions:


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...d.php?t=205223


If you have any ideas about improvements please let me know!


Best, LGN1

[FUBAR295]

Originally Posted by LGN1

I'm glad someone is still using this old mod! Here is the original thread with discussions:

I use yours ( thanks by the way) in conjunction with "Just Following Orders" as both add some needed immersion at least for this Uboot nerd.

Good hunting,
FUBAR295