UK Politics Thread - Page 853

Skybird · 07-29-20, 11:10 AM

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/29/u...gbr/index.html

I think Johnson'S Brexit plan needed a strong EU attention focus on the issue, on which he then could surf his Brexit agenda. But the wave has been collapsed by Corona and now he has nothing to surf on. TheEU has issues on its mind that are more relevant for the EU members. This lack of attention focus on the UK is somethign that takes all wind out of the UK's sail, as far as its intended future relation the the continent was concerned. EU members simply do not care anymore. And Johnson has nothing anymore to use for blackmailing them to enforce their interest or attention.

Brexit simply is not much relevant for the EU anymore. The new terrible EU fiscal regime - open destruction of the Masstricht treaty, collectivisation of debts and the ECB now openly financing states nd no longer hiding it that it does, and the union collectively making new debts - renders the costs of an unregulated Brexit irrelevant.

Its a fiscal-political nightmare what they have done in those four days. Worst it could not have gotten.

The illusion the EU bought with this desaster summit, will last only shortly. But they will be enough to make it impossible for the UK to keep the EU busy with thgreats or intidmiation attempts. That all has become irrelevant, thanks to a tiny virus.

Jimbuna · 07-29-20, 01:19 PM

And so both sides must go on their separate ways.

Catfish · 07-29-20, 03:05 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightened_self-interest

Jimbuna · 08-01-20, 05:08 AM

Here is a list of those who are being honoured or should I say 'set up for life'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53606083

Jimbuna · 08-03-20, 12:48 PM

Documents on UK-US trade talks, leaked ahead of the 2019 general election, were stolen from an email account belonging to Conservative MP Liam Fox, it has emerged.

The papers were published online and used by Labour in the 2019 campaign to claim the NHS would be put at risk.

The UK government has said Russians almost certainly sought to interfere in the election through the documents.

A criminal inquiry into the leaking of the documents is underway.

A spokesman for the National Crime Agency confirmed it was leading the investigation, but added he could not comment further.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53642923

skidman · 08-03-20, 01:05 PM

Lock him up!

Jimbuna · 08-05-20, 08:01 AM

Boris Johnson: Spitting Image puppet unveiled ahead of relaunch

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53662230

Skybird · 08-06-20, 02:14 PM

An opinion piece from "Die Welt".

The media dismay over the decision by the British government to exclude foreign and security policy from the Brexit negotiations is limited. On the one hand, this is realistic: there is basically no common European foreign and security policy that would be worth negotiating about.

On the other hand, this impotence is an expression of the very lack of interest. In Germany, for example, they were never ready to evaluate the dependence on Russian gas supplies or Chinese car buyers from a strategic point of view. In Britain, on the other hand, the political class and the media maintain the primacy of politics. For example, Boris Johnson, along with the other powers in the Anglosphere - the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - has reacted much more sharply to the suspension of democracy in Hong Kong than the European Union, which is led by business interests.

Although Great Britain originally hoped to conclude advantageous business relations with China after breaking away from the EU as "Global Britain", it tacitly buried this hope in the face of Chinese aggression and also conceded its decision to allow the Chinese company Huawei to expand the UK 5G network participate. For the British, intelligence cooperation within the Anglosphere, the so-called "Five Eyes" alliance, was more important.

For a few months now, London has been promoting another form of international cooperation: a club of the ten most important democracies, the "D10", consisting of the G-7 members - USA, Canada, Great Britain, Germany, France, Italy and Japan - plus Australia, South Korea and India. The primary goal: to develop an alternative to Huawei technology for 5G and to secure critical supply chains.

Even if London assures that the club should not represent an anti-Chinese alliance, the contours of an alliance are emerging that defends liberal against state monopoly capitalism, democracy against authoritarianism. Germany should not stand aside, but actively promote the D10 with London and advocate that the EU should not only enjoy observer status there, as with the G7, but should also have a seat and vote. Thus, the most important foreign and security policy questions between the EU and its ex-member would be clarified.

https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommenta...gen-China.html

Jimbuna · 08-07-20, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Ex-Labour MP and former Army officer Eric Joyce has received a suspended sentence after he admitted making an indecent image of a child.

Joyce, 59, had a film on a device that "depicts a number of children" with one said to be 12 months old, Ipswich Crown Court heard.

The former shadow minister and ex-MP for Falkirk was arrested in 2018.

He was sentenced to eight months in prison, suspended for two years, and must complete 150 hours of unpaid work.

The court heard the 51-second category A film - the most serious there is - was accessed by Joyce, of Worlingworth, Suffolk, between August 2013 and November 2018.

It featured what appeared to be seven different children, aged between 12 months and seven years.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-53694012

What in Gods name goes on inside these peoples heads

Jimbuna · 08-08-20, 07:19 AM

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The UK and Japan hope to agree the details of a post-Brexit trade agreement by the end of the month.

The two sides said they had made progress during two days of face-to-face talks in London.

Japanese Foreign Minister Toshimitsu Motegi said there was "substantial" agreement in most areas.

And the UK's Liz Truss said there was a "consensus" on extending Japan's current trade standards with the EU in financial and digital services.

Earlier on Friday, there were reports that agriculture remained the last remaining obstacle to be overcome.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53697547

And most welcome it will be.

Jimbuna · 08-09-20, 11:41 AM

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The government is to spend up to £355m on a new system for moving goods into Northern Ireland from the rest of the UK.

The system is required as a consequence of the NI part of the Brexit deal.

From 1 January, goods entering NI from GB will need customs declarations.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53685266

I was wondering when the Irish problem would surface again.

Jimbuna · 08-13-20, 05:56 AM

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Chancellor Rishi Sunak said the government is "grappling with something that is unprecedented" after figures showed the UK economy suffered its biggest slump on record.

The economy shrank 20.4% between April and June compared with the first three months of the year.

The two consecutive quarters of decline caused by the Covid-19 lockdown pushed the UK officially into recession.

Mr Sunak told the BBC that it was "a very difficult and uncertain time".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53753189

Thus far I believe we have only seen the tip of the iceberg.

Jimbuna · 08-14-20, 10:19 AM

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Seven people have been arrested after attacks on four political party headquarters, in which paint was reportedly thrown and windows broken.

The Metropolitan Police sent officers to buildings used by the Conservatives, Labour, the Lib Dems and the Green Party in London.

Pictures posted on Twitter by the Beyond Politics Party show pink paint daubed on masonry and windows.

Five people were arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage.

Two more were held on suspicion of burglary.

The incidents took place early on Thursday morning in Matthew Parker Street, Victoria Street, St Georges Street and Clements Road.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53770794

I suppose one could say all parties were ' tarred with the same brush'

Jimbuna · 08-15-20, 12:42 PM

New Zealand is "very frustrated" with the pace of post-Brexit trade talks with the UK, the country's deputy prime minister has said.

Winston Peters said the UK's EU membership had not left it "match fit" to negotiate its own agreements around the world.

The UK opened trade talks with New Zealand in July, but will not be able to sign a deal until next year.

The government said talks on a deal had been "positive and productive" so far.

Speaking to Times Radio, Mr Peters said the "prescription" for an agreement "could have been already virtually signed up to".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53755640

Jimbuna · 08-16-20, 01:11 PM

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Some restaurants and pubs are withdrawing from the Eat Out to Help Out scheme because of "hostility towards staff".

Under the scheme the government pays half of the bill on meals served from Monday to Wednesdays throughout August.

Owners says a surge in demand on these days has led to staff being shouted at, and "physical and mental stress".

In tourist-heavy areas like the South West many say the scheme is not helping at an already busy time of year.

Some say fewer customers are dining on other weekdays as a result.

The Treasury said the scheme was working.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53769749

Some people just don't know when they are onto a good thing

07-29-20, 11:10 AM	#12781
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,477 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/29/u...gbr/index.html I think Johnson'S Brexit plan needed a strong EU attention focus on the issue, on which he then could surf his Brexit agenda. But the wave has been collapsed by Corona and now he has nothing to surf on. TheEU has issues on its mind that are more relevant for the EU members. This lack of attention focus on the UK is somethign that takes all wind out of the UK's sail, as far as its intended future relation the the continent was concerned. EU members simply do not care anymore. And Johnson has nothing anymore to use for blackmailing them to enforce their interest or attention. Brexit simply is not much relevant for the EU anymore. The new terrible EU fiscal regime - open destruction of the Masstricht treaty, collectivisation of debts and the ECB now openly financing states nd no longer hiding it that it does, and the union collectively making new debts - renders the costs of an unregulated Brexit irrelevant. Its a fiscal-political nightmare what they have done in those four days. Worst it could not have gotten. The illusion the EU bought with this desaster summit, will last only shortly. But they will be enough to make it impossible for the UK to keep the EU busy with thgreats or intidmiation attempts. That all has become irrelevant, thanks to a tiny virus. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-29-20, 01:19 PM	#12782
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,102 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	And so both sides must go on their separate ways. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

07-29-20, 03:05 PM	#12783
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 16,894 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightened_self-interest __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

08-01-20, 05:08 AM	#12784
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,102 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Here is a list of those who are being honoured or should I say 'set up for life'? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53606083 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

08-03-20, 12:48 PM	#12785
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,102 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Documents on UK-US trade talks, leaked ahead of the 2019 general election, were stolen from an email account belonging to Conservative MP Liam Fox, it has emerged. The papers were published online and used by Labour in the 2019 campaign to claim the NHS would be put at risk. The UK government has said Russians almost certainly sought to interfere in the election through the documents. A criminal inquiry into the leaking of the documents is underway. A spokesman for the National Crime Agency confirmed it was leading the investigation, but added he could not comment further. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53642923 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

08-03-20, 01:05 PM	#12786
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Lock him up! __________________ "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.” (Douglas Adams)

08-05-20, 08:01 AM	#12787
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,102 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Boris Johnson: Spitting Image puppet unveiled ahead of relaunch https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53662230 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

08-06-20, 02:14 PM	#12788
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,477 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	An opinion piece from "Die Welt". The media dismay over the decision by the British government to exclude foreign and security policy from the Brexit negotiations is limited. On the one hand, this is realistic: there is basically no common European foreign and security policy that would be worth negotiating about. On the other hand, this impotence is an expression of the very lack of interest. In Germany, for example, they were never ready to evaluate the dependence on Russian gas supplies or Chinese car buyers from a strategic point of view. In Britain, on the other hand, the political class and the media maintain the primacy of politics. For example, Boris Johnson, along with the other powers in the Anglosphere - the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand - has reacted much more sharply to the suspension of democracy in Hong Kong than the European Union, which is led by business interests. Although Great Britain originally hoped to conclude advantageous business relations with China after breaking away from the EU as "Global Britain", it tacitly buried this hope in the face of Chinese aggression and also conceded its decision to allow the Chinese company Huawei to expand the UK 5G network participate. For the British, intelligence cooperation within the Anglosphere, the so-called "Five Eyes" alliance, was more important. For a few months now, London has been promoting another form of international cooperation: a club of the ten most important democracies, the "D10", consisting of the G-7 members - USA, Canada, Great Britain, Germany, France, Italy and Japan - plus Australia, South Korea and India. The primary goal: to develop an alternative to Huawei technology for 5G and to secure critical supply chains. Even if London assures that the club should not represent an anti-Chinese alliance, the contours of an alliance are emerging that defends liberal against state monopoly capitalism, democracy against authoritarianism. Germany should not stand aside, but actively promote the D10 with London and advocate that the EU should not only enjoy observer status there, as with the G7, but should also have a seat and vote. Thus, the most important foreign and security policy questions between the EU and its ex-member would be clarified. https://www.welt.de/debatte/kommenta...gen-China.html __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-15-20, 12:42 PM	#12794
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 181,102 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	New Zealand is "very frustrated" with the pace of post-Brexit trade talks with the UK, the country's deputy prime minister has said. Winston Peters said the UK's EU membership had not left it "match fit" to negotiate its own agreements around the world. The UK opened trade talks with New Zealand in July, but will not be able to sign a deal until next year. The government said talks on a deal had been "positive and productive" so far. Speaking to Times Radio, Mr Peters said the "prescription" for an agreement "could have been already virtually signed up to". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53755640 __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)