Who / What / Where Game Part 2 - Page 24

Aktungbby · 06-23-22, 11:05 AM

that's a "heck of a pike"! I knew I'd seen the picture, a few years back studying the Drebble, but couldn't place it...more Aricept?

Catfish · 06-23-22, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The Steinhuder Hecht ('Steinhude Pike') from 1772. said to be the first submarine built in Germany?

YES, that's the one. Prototype (probably) built in the village of Steinhude near Hannover, at the "Steinhuder Meer".

The small area of Schaumburg-Lippe was a small monarchy/republic, then ruled by Count Wilhelm of Schaumburg-Lippe. He had an internationally recognized talent for war and strategy, and was even called to come and help by Portugal to (successfully) defend the country against the Habsburg-reigned Spain. He was accompanied by the inventor Jakob Chrysostomus Praetorius, who had already thought of several new kinds of technology. To get information to and from Portugal there was his idea to build a ship for information exchange that could not be intercepted.

"The Steinhuder Hecht was a design submitted in 1762 by the engineer, officer and military school teacher Jakob Chrysostomus Praetorius from Schaumburg-Lippe for a mail boat between the river Weser (flowing ino the North sea at Bremerhaven) and Lisbon. It is considered the first German design of a submarine."
It was an idea for a mailboat/packet ship or also as an "Aviso" (recconnaissance boat) that would be able to get past enemy navies or ships by diving. The masts were intended to be lowered before diving to reduce resistance, the propulsion done via some tail fin operated from inside via cables.

The smaller prototype from 1772 is said to have had no sails but rows instead, having an oak hull with leather covering to make it watertight and is said to have been tested on the Steinhuder Meer staying submerged for 12 minutes. Said to have had "real" ballast tanks with a piston system, but not sure how this should have worked or how it looked. There are only sketches and a model left, exhibited at Wilhelmstein, a small artificial island in the lake.

It may be doubted if this strange thing ever dived, since the Steinhuder Meer has a depth of 2 and a half meters at its deepest parts.. at least today.

Short fim in german about the invention:
https://www.ndr.de/fernsehen/sendung...dasx26618.html

Over to Jim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

that's a "heck of a pike"! I knew I'd seen the picture, a few years back studying the Drebble, but couldn't place it...more Aricept?

I'm not sure maybe i even had it in this first thread of WhoWhatWhere(?

), but then maybe i also need some of this aricept

Ostfriese · 06-24-22, 12:57 AM

I admit that I've never heard of that thing before - and I was born less than 80km/50mi away from Steinhude.

Jimbuna · 06-25-22, 07:11 AM

What is this?

mapuc · 06-25-22, 07:18 AM

Left front wheel on an airplane.

Markus

Jimbuna · 06-25-22, 07:41 AM

Afraid not.

Aktungbby · 06-25-22, 10:37 AM

does it fly?

Jimbuna · 06-25-22, 10:53 AM

It does.

Aktungbby · 06-25-22, 10:55 AM

propeller driven?

Jimbuna · 06-25-22, 10:57 AM

Nope

mapuc · 06-25-22, 10:59 AM

Powered by wind ?

Markus

Aktungbby · 06-25-22, 11:04 AM

combat jet?

Eichhörnchen · 06-25-22, 12:42 PM

Carrier-borne?

Catfish · 06-25-22, 04:01 PM

Central landing gear?

Jimbuna · 06-26-22, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Powered by wind ?

Markus

Sorry Markus but I'm not quite sure I understand what you mean. All aircraft need an element of wind to stay up in the air as far as I'm aware.

06-23-22, 11:05 AM	#346
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,822 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	that's a "heck of a pike"! I knew I'd seen the picture, a few years back studying the Drebble, but couldn't place it...more Aricept? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

06-25-22, 07:11 AM	#349
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06-25-22, 07:41 AM	#351
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,962 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Afraid not. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-25-22, 10:37 AM	#352
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,822 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	does it fly? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

06-24-22, 12:57 AM	#348
Ostfriese Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2004 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,174 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I admit that I've never heard of that thing before - and I was born less than 80km/50mi away from Steinhude.

06-25-22, 10:53 AM	#353
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,962 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It does. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-25-22, 10:55 AM	#354
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06-25-22, 10:57 AM	#355
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,962 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Nope __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

06-25-22, 10:59 AM	#356
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,831 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Powered by wind ? Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

06-25-22, 11:04 AM	#357
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 27,822 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	combat jet? __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness; and I'm not too sure about the Universe"

06-25-22, 12:42 PM	#358
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