merchants - sonar? - Page 2

Gray Lensman · 11-05-20, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

I was refering to the books by EE Doc Smith

I know... Read the books several times. I adopted the name years ago (in my younger years) but over time it's taken on a new meaning for me since my hair is mostly gray/white and I have to wear readers now. The ole Gray Lensman just ain't what he used to be. LOL

jorgegonzalito · 11-06-20, 01:38 AM

A sincere recognition to all those who have contributed their time, creating mods that allow to give a little more common sense to this game. My mood has changed a lot in recent weeks, and each mission that I undertake I am gradually increasing the level of realism. I am using numerous mods that solve a number of annoying issues, and also provide more fair rules of the game. Thank you all very much!

Gray Lensman · 11-06-20, 08:16 AM

UPDATE: Nicolas Mod (the AI-FIX-3) for the last week was just giving the normal "false" alerts, but today Windows Defender started being specific about it containing a specific possible Trojan so I'm no longer recommending its usage. I'm not seeing any real signs of Malware activity but better safe than sorry.

Red Devil · 11-06-20, 08:22 AM

I had a problem a while back with Malwarebytes throwing up a 'false positive'. It turned out that they were 'at war' with Iobit and a piece of software I had in my pc. So they made sure that any pc found with Iobit software in it threw up alarms. FPs just might be someone throwing a wobbly about someone else.

Gray Lensman · 11-06-20, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

I had a problem a while back with Malwarebytes throwing up a 'false positive'. It turned out that they were 'at war' with Iobit and a piece of software I had in my pc. So they made sure that any pc found with Iobit software in it threw up alarms. FPs just might be someone throwing a wobbly about someone else.

I'm generally a little "loose" about warnings since there are a lot of "false" positives, but when I start getting specific Malware warnings from Win Defender, (some sort of alphabet soup coded gibberish), I can no longer ignore the situation. I don't want to spend several hours blitzing the machine and reinstalling everything.

Since this old (2010) software mod had been repackaged and recently reuploaded just this year (2020), I can't rule out that the repackage job just might have introduced something.

Red Devil · 11-06-20, 11:15 AM

oh boy, did we go off track, must have been a dud torp

Sniper297 · 11-13-20, 10:19 PM

Some Japanese merchant ships were indeed equipped with sonar for defense, see page 7 in this;

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20E-10.pdf

Red Devil · 11-14-20, 09:17 AM

sniper - thats brilliant, many thanks.

KaleunMarco · 11-14-20, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper297

Some Japanese merchant ships were indeed equipped with sonar for defense, see page 7 in this;

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20E-10.pdf

did you catch the date on the report? a lot of good it did our skippers and crews during the war!

Red Devil · 11-14-20, 03:29 PM

yes, it was when US Intelligence hit japan big time finding out all they could.

Sniper297 · 11-14-20, 10:58 PM

"did you catch the date on the report? a lot of good it did our skippers and crews during the war!"

Only thing I could find with a quick search, pretty sure it was known during the war, especially when some of the marus started dropping depth charges by rolling them off the stern.

IJN ASW started out kinda lame, got a lot better toward the end of the war, including new tech like magnetic anomaly detectors and infra-red carried in ASW aircraft. Better coordination between planes and destroyers too, which was how they got the Wahoo. Gotta remember that a lot of that stuff wasn't documented because it was classified top secret during the war.

Red Devil · 11-15-20, 08:11 AM

yes indeed. Which is why CIA etc flooded the Japanese mainland as soon as the surrender was signed.

something that might be of interest to you is Operation Downfall which were the US military plans for the invasion of japan proper. a million body bags were stored on Okinawa for the expected casualties.

www.39-45war.uk/downfall.html

Moonlight · 11-15-20, 02:01 PM

^That was a cracking read.

KaleunMarco · 11-15-20, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

yes indeed. Which is why CIA etc flooded the Japanese mainland as soon as the surrender was signed.

something that might be of interest to you is Operation Downfall which were the US military plans for the invasion of japan proper. a million body bags were stored on Okinawa for the expected casualties.

www.39-45war.uk/downfall.html

try Hell to Pay by Giangreco.

give it as a present to all of those Boomers who think that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were genocidal war crimes.

Gray Lensman · 11-15-20, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniper297

Some Japanese merchant ships were indeed equipped with sonar for defense, see page 7 in this;

http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20E-10.pdf

That's hydrophones (listening equipment) not sonar. SH4 makes the merchants act as if they have sonar itself. Big difference.

11-06-20, 01:38 AM	#17
jorgegonzalito Officer Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina. Posts: 237 Downloads: 322 Uploads: 0	thank you very much to all! A sincere recognition to all those who have contributed their time, creating mods that allow to give a little more common sense to this game. My mood has changed a lot in recent weeks, and each mission that I undertake I am gradually increasing the level of realism. I am using numerous mods that solve a number of annoying issues, and also provide more fair rules of the game. Thank you all very much!

11-06-20, 08:16 AM	#18
Gray Lensman Frogman Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: USA Posts: 308 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	UPDATE: Nicolas Mod (the AI-FIX-3) for the last week was just giving the normal "false" alerts, but today Windows Defender started being specific about it containing a specific possible Trojan so I'm no longer recommending its usage. I'm not seeing any real signs of Malware activity but better safe than sorry. __________________ . Member since February 2007 Wargaming since 1971 (1st game Avalon Hill's Stalingrad) Hobby/Gaming Computng since 1977 (TRS-80) (adhoc programming & game modding ever since)

11-06-20, 08:22 AM	#19
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	I had a problem a while back with Malwarebytes throwing up a 'false positive'. It turned out that they were 'at war' with Iobit and a piece of software I had in my pc. So they made sure that any pc found with Iobit software in it threw up alarms. FPs just might be someone throwing a wobbly about someone else. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

11-06-20, 11:15 AM	#21
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	oh boy, did we go off track, must have been a dud torp __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

11-14-20, 09:17 AM	#23
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	sniper - thats brilliant, many thanks. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

11-13-20, 10:19 PM	#22
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Some Japanese merchant ships were indeed equipped with sonar for defense, see page 7 in this; http://www.fischer-tropsch.org/prima...ort%20E-10.pdf

11-14-20, 03:29 PM	#25
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	yes, it was when US Intelligence hit japan big time finding out all they could. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

11-14-20, 10:58 PM	#26
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	"did you catch the date on the report? a lot of good it did our skippers and crews during the war!" Only thing I could find with a quick search, pretty sure it was known during the war, especially when some of the marus started dropping depth charges by rolling them off the stern. IJN ASW started out kinda lame, got a lot better toward the end of the war, including new tech like magnetic anomaly detectors and infra-red carried in ASW aircraft. Better coordination between planes and destroyers too, which was how they got the Wahoo. Gotta remember that a lot of that stuff wasn't documented because it was classified top secret during the war.

11-15-20, 08:11 AM	#27
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,515 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 0	yes indeed. Which is why CIA etc flooded the Japanese mainland as soon as the surrender was signed. something that might be of interest to you is Operation Downfall which were the US military plans for the invasion of japan proper. a million body bags were stored on Okinawa for the expected casualties. www.39-45war.uk/downfall.html __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

11-15-20, 02:01 PM	#28
Moonlight Admiral Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,132 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	^That was a cracking read. __________________