Dude! Neal's getting a Dell! - Page 6

Onkel Neal · 03-14-09, 01:00 PM

That's a great idea, about setting everything up and making a backup,

since I just got Norton Ghost, I should do that!

Edit: Done!

longam · 03-14-09, 06:03 PM

Let us know how the payment thing works out with Black Shark, that's one thing that's holding me back, just not sure about it.

Not real crazy about the star force, but it really didn't do anything to my last system with SH3

Overboard · 03-14-09, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longam

Let us know how the payment thing works out with Black Shark, that's one thing that's holding me back, just not sure about it.

Not real crazy about the star force, but it really didn't do anything to my last system with SH3

Alot of poeple say many bad things about Starforce, and i know it (could) cause some poeple problems..But for me i truly cant find where it has hurt anything on my system and i have had it instaled for many years, If i thought it was bad and messed up my pc i would just reformat, but it hasent.

AVGWarhawk · 03-14-09, 06:44 PM

Black Shark looks very cool

Kpt. Lehmann · 03-14-09, 08:01 PM

Dell's are great for...

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

NealT · 03-15-09, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

That's a great idea, about setting everything up and making a backup,

since I just got Norton Ghost, I should do that!

Edit: Done!

Just be careful...there are many programs out there according to my kids, that will detect Norton Ghost and refuse to run...

Cannot tell you what they are but you can always undo Ghost if you have to...

NeonSamurai · 03-15-09, 06:20 PM

If you do it on a boot disk outside of the native operating system, any such software wouldn't know that it even happened.

Also with that method i suggested you do kind of have to separately do incremental file backups of stuff like internet browsers, email, documents and other such files. This can be done automatically via different backup software, or when planning to restore the backup. You can also do a second incremental full image backup periodically for emergency reinstalls. What i suggested is pretty much for non emergency restores unless you have been backing up the other stuff.

Onkel Neal · 03-15-09, 09:55 PM

Hmmm... not sure how to go about that. I'm using Ghost 14, it supposedly makes a "full backup" and also does incremental backups.

Back on the topic of new computers, I dug out my old receipts, at least all I could find since my first Pentium PC.

Dec 1995 IBM Aptiva P100MHz, 16MB RAM, 1.7GB HD, 1 MB video card: $2698
June 1999 Gateway 500 Pentium III 500MHz, 160MB RAM, 13.5GB HD, nVidia TNT1 6MB card: $2069
Sept 2002 Gateway 500X Pentium 4 2.4GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HD*, GeForce Ti4200 128MB card: $1439
Mar 2009 Dell XPS630i Core2 E8400 3GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD, GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB cards: $1100

Isn't it cool how they hardware is getting better expotentially while getting cheaper too?

I suppose when I'm 60, I'll get a PC that is 100x better and will cost the same as a pack of gum!

*not even showing the fraction anymore

NeonSamurai · 03-16-09, 12:32 PM

Well I'm not sure ghost can do individual file/folder replication which is kind of what you need, that or you do a regular incremental backup (basicly thats updating to an existing backup) for emergencies which is fine if you dont mind it taking up a lot of space.

The entire point is to keep some sort of continual backup of locations on the computer that change (like email, browser favorites, save games and settings for games, documents, desktops, etc) to supplement the clean reinstall image so that data is not lost when re imaging or if there is a hardware failure (mainly this is to protect against hardware failure, as if you doing a normal reinstalling of the image you can just simply backup on the spot by hand right before.

So basically you can do a regular full incremental backup to protect against a hard drive failure. Its the easiest to set up and do but the most space consuming as it will back up everything in the selected partition.

Or you can set up automatic file/folder replication for those parts that you want backed up (replication means the selected files will be duplicated at the location specified). Depending on the program used you can do anything from x days between backups, or monitored on the fly backups (this takes up processing power as the software actively monitors the locations for changes).

Or you can just do it manually as you feel like it/need to.

Anyhow here are some links to some free file replication software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_synchronization
http://allwaysync.com/
http://directorysync.sourceforge.net/features.html
http://synkron.sourceforge.net/

Onkel Neal · 03-16-09, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Defining a file and folder backup

When you define and run a file and folder backup, copies are made of each of the

files and folders that you have chosen to back up. They are converted into a
compressed format, and then stored in a sub-folder at the location you specify,
which by default is the same backup destination that is used for storing recovery

points.

That's being done daily. Is that what you are referring to?

Wow, another thing I just realized--this PC does NOT HAVE A FLOPPY DRIVE! :rotfl:

That's kinda weird for me... glad I'm less of a flashtard than before.

AVGWarhawk · 03-16-09, 01:05 PM

These days floppy drives are taken care of by using Viagra

NeonSamurai · 03-16-09, 02:26 PM

Yep that would be it as long as its not backing up every single file. Also be sure its not doing that on to the clean install image or it wont be clean any more (well unless you carefully select what files are backed up and don't let it update the registry backup).

03-16-09, 07:52 PM

Neal Stevens

Fallout3 using the same game engine as Oblivion, as far as i undertand. Not that heavy game.
If you realy want to test performance try to get.

Crysis on dx10, a heavy game.
GTA4 - (not for kids) I think the developers push it too far thise time

but its still a very good game with lot of stuff to do. Addicted as well, at least its my opinion.

Any way, have fun with your new PC

Wolfehunter · 03-17-09, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Hmmm... not sure how to go about that. I'm using Ghost 14, it supposedly makes a "full backup" and also does incremental backups.

Back on the topic of new computers, I dug out my old receipts, at least all I could find since my first Pentium PC.

Dec 1995 IBM Aptiva P100MHz, 16MB RAM, 1.7GB HD, 1 MB video card: $2698
June 1999 Gateway 500 Pentium III 500MHz, 160MB RAM, 13.5GB HD, nVidia TNT1 6MB card: $2069
Sept 2002 Gateway 500X Pentium 4 2.4GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HD*, GeForce Ti4200 128MB card: $1439
Mar 2009 Dell XPS630i Core2 E8400 3GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD, GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB cards: $1100

Isn't it cool how they hardware is getting better expotentially while getting cheaper too?

I suppose when I'm 60, I'll get a PC that is 100x better and will cost the same as a pack of gum!

*not even showing the fraction anymore

I'm not so lucky as you...

First PC was a IBM PCjr. costed $2000
My second was a Cortex 386DX for over $3200
My third was one I built first generation Pentium 75 costed me $1600 parts
Fourth PC was a lemon from Microbytes P2 266 for $2600. Never again..
Fifth one I upgraded custom build P3 1.4GHz total cost $1880
Sixth Dell Laptop Insperon 2650 P4 1.6 $3400
Seventh PC was a P4 3.2GHz fully loaded custom build I made for $3000+
Now my Dell XPS 730 Quad core uber system for only $2664. But I got a special deal.

I didn't included my wifes many PCs and my mothers hehe which I paid for...

Now If I have invested all that cash into hmmmm savings well maybe I would have a nicer car now....

But yes over the years Computers are much cheaper if you buy value PC's, Uber rigs always cost well uber...

NeonSamurai · 03-17-09, 10:57 PM

In many ways the prices have slowly dropped over the last decade, however in certain areas prices have actually doubled or more. That would be the area of video cards were at the start of the decade gaming video cards didn't cost a whole lot, then the GeForce vs ATI thing started and video card prices skyrocketed to 500-700$ for a top line video card. Now we have been convinced that we need 2 or 3 of the 500-700$ cards and that they should be replaced every 2 years.

The biggest investement now in a new computer pretty much is the video cards.

03-14-09, 01:00 PM	#76
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,283 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	That's a great idea, about setting everything up and making a backup, since I just got Norton Ghost, I should do that! Edit: Done! __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web Last edited by Onkel Neal; 03-14-09 at 01:49 PM.

03-14-09, 06:44 PM	#79
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Black Shark looks very cool __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-14-09, 08:01 PM	#80
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,875 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Dell's are great for... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

03-15-09, 06:20 PM	#82
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	If you do it on a boot disk outside of the native operating system, any such software wouldn't know that it even happened. Also with that method i suggested you do kind of have to separately do incremental file backups of stuff like internet browsers, email, documents and other such files. This can be done automatically via different backup software, or when planning to restore the backup. You can also do a second incremental full image backup periodically for emergency reinstalls. What i suggested is pretty much for non emergency restores unless you have been backing up the other stuff. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

03-15-09, 09:55 PM	#83
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,283 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Hmmm... not sure how to go about that. I'm using Ghost 14, it supposedly makes a "full backup" and also does incremental backups. Back on the topic of new computers, I dug out my old receipts, at least all I could find since my first Pentium PC. Dec 1995 IBM Aptiva P100MHz, 16MB RAM, 1.7GB HD, 1 MB video card: $2698 June 1999 Gateway 500 Pentium III 500MHz, 160MB RAM, 13.5GB HD, nVidia TNT1 6MB card: $2069 Sept 2002 Gateway 500X Pentium 4 2.4GHz, 512MB RAM, 80GB HD, GeForce Ti4200 128MB card: $1439 Mar 2009 Dell XPS630i Core2 E8400 3GHz, 4GB RAM, 500GB HD, GeForce 9800GT SLI 1GB cards: $1100 Isn't it cool how they hardware is getting better expotentially while getting cheaper too? I suppose when I'm 60, I'll get a PC that is 100x better and will cost the same as a pack of gum! not even showing the fraction anymore __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-14-09, 06:03 PM	#77
longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Let us know how the payment thing works out with Black Shark, that's one thing that's holding me back, just not sure about it. Not real crazy about the star force, but it really didn't do anything to my last system with SH3

03-16-09, 12:32 PM	#84
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Well I'm not sure ghost can do individual file/folder replication which is kind of what you need, that or you do a regular incremental backup (basicly thats updating to an existing backup) for emergencies which is fine if you dont mind it taking up a lot of space. The entire point is to keep some sort of continual backup of locations on the computer that change (like email, browser favorites, save games and settings for games, documents, desktops, etc) to supplement the clean reinstall image so that data is not lost when re imaging or if there is a hardware failure (mainly this is to protect against hardware failure, as if you doing a normal reinstalling of the image you can just simply backup on the spot by hand right before. So basically you can do a regular full incremental backup to protect against a hard drive failure. Its the easiest to set up and do but the most space consuming as it will back up everything in the selected partition. Or you can set up automatic file/folder replication for those parts that you want backed up (replication means the selected files will be duplicated at the location specified). Depending on the program used you can do anything from x days between backups, or monitored on the fly backups (this takes up processing power as the software actively monitors the locations for changes). Or you can just do it manually as you feel like it/need to. Anyhow here are some links to some free file replication software http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_synchronization http://allwaysync.com/ http://directorysync.sourceforge.net/features.html http://synkron.sourceforge.net/ __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

03-16-09, 01:05 PM	#86
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	These days floppy drives are taken care of by using Viagra __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-16-09, 02:26 PM	#87
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Yep that would be it as long as its not backing up every single file. Also be sure its not doing that on to the clean install image or it wont be clean any more (well unless you carefully select what files are backed up and don't let it update the registry backup). __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

03-16-09, 07:52 PM	#88
Dimitrius07 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Neal Stevens Fallout3 using the same game engine as Oblivion, as far as i undertand. Not that heavy game. If you realy want to test performance try to get. Crysis on dx10, a heavy game. GTA4 - (not for kids) I think the developers push it too far thise time but its still a very good game with lot of stuff to do. Addicted as well, at least its my opinion. Any way, have fun with your new PC

03-17-09, 10:57 PM	#90
NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	In many ways the prices have slowly dropped over the last decade, however in certain areas prices have actually doubled or more. That would be the area of video cards were at the start of the decade gaming video cards didn't cost a whole lot, then the GeForce vs ATI thing started and video card prices skyrocketed to 500-700$ for a top line video card. Now we have been convinced that we need 2 or 3 of the 500-700$ cards and that they should be replaced every 2 years. The biggest investement now in a new computer pretty much is the video cards. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff