SpaceX does it again!!! + Rolling out Starlink - Page 4

Jimbuna · 04-28-16, 05:30 AM

Very cool

We now need a landing pad built at the Ponderosa and cross-Atlantic visitors will find it easier to visit

eddie · 05-06-16, 02:12 PM

This morning SpaceX launched a satellite into orbit and landed the first stage of the rocket aboard a ship again!! Congrats for a great job!!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techno...ing/ar-BBsIo3Q

Oberon · 09-01-16, 08:30 AM

A Falcon 9 rocket conducting a static fire test at Cape Canaveral just opted to conduct a Static Rapid Disassembly Test instead.

Von Due · 09-01-16, 09:42 AM

I'm no rocket scientist, to make an understatement, but I read that it had a $200.000.000 payload on top when it blew up. Is that the norm? Sounds strange to have a payload on when you want to test fire the engines. At least they can conclude the rocket disassembles real quick which is good to know.

mako88sb · 09-01-16, 10:23 AM

SpaceX has confirmed that the explosion was not due to their Falcon 9 but from some sort of launch pad anomaly. Here's a closer shot:

Von Due · 09-01-16, 12:09 PM

Some info here
https://www.reddit.com/live/xix3m9uqd06g

The mishap

Oberon · 09-01-16, 01:16 PM

Wow...yeah, that's going to leave a mark.

At least it wasn't the fault of the vehicle, something must have ignited the propellant whilst it was being loaded onto the vehicle. The payload fairing actually survived the initial explosion but not the sudden onset of gravity caused by the rocket underneath it atomising.

Von Due · 09-01-16, 01:31 PM

A major bummer for Spacecom. Quote from the news link above
"Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite:
Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance."

From what I understand, they are a small company that have been in talks about being bought by another company, depending on the success of this launch. Hard to talk when things explode around you.

EDIT: They really do have rotten luck. This satelite, Amos-6 destroyed and the previous one Amos-5 stopped calling home last year. 1/3 of them out is not a shortcut to financial success.

Another quote from the same link
"Spacecom, the owner of the satellite onboard today's Falcon 9; are down 9% on their stock exchange today; and continuing to fall."

Jimbuna · 09-01-16, 03:30 PM

Lady Luck is certainly not smiling on them atm.

Von Due · 09-01-16, 04:36 PM

The quote earlier
"Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite:
Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance."
has now been retracted, it seems, but neither Musk nor SpaceX mention any of it in any tweet or other newspost I have seen. One can hope for Spacecom that the relevant insurance companies are playing ball.

mapuc · 09-01-16, 05:05 PM

Not trying to sound like an evil person

Every setback is at most a positive thing it is mostly through these setback we learn a lot more than if everything was working great, but with hidden failure

Markus

Von Due · 09-01-16, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Not trying to sound like an evil person

Every setback is at most a positive thing it is mostly through these setback we learn a lot more than if everything was working great, but with hidden failure

Markus

That I agree on. Of course, that only holds true if you don't go broke or do a Nedelin but yeah, failure and learning is one step towards perfection.

Jimbuna · 09-02-16, 07:00 AM

Footage of the incident:

mako88sb · 09-02-16, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Von Due

The quote earlier
"Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite:
Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance."
has now been retracted, it seems, but neither Musk nor SpaceX mention any of it in any tweet or other newspost I have seen. One can hope for Spacecom that the relevant insurance companies are playing ball.

Sounds like their marine cargo insurance will cover it.

Von Due · 09-02-16, 12:47 PM

I am not going to touch the frothingly insane theories that pop up now concerning the incident but one thing really depresses:

A search on Youtube for Facebook Satellite gave me 1120 hits (filtered for past 24 hours)

and various media are hot onto it, parroting the same nonsense.
Spacecom isn't even spelled the same way as Facebook, let alone pronounced the same way but still, good luck trying to tell the nutters it wasn't Facebook's sat.

04-28-16, 05:30 AM	#46
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,992 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Very cool We now need a landing pad built at the Ponderosa and cross-Atlantic visitors will find it easier to visit __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

05-06-16, 02:12 PM	#47
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	SpaceX does it again!!! This morning SpaceX launched a satellite into orbit and landed the first stage of the rocket aboard a ship again!! Congrats for a great job!! http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/techno...ing/ar-BBsIo3Q __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-01-16, 12:09 PM	#51
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Some info here https://www.reddit.com/live/xix3m9uqd06g The mishap Last edited by Von Due; 09-01-16 at 12:30 PM.

09-01-16, 01:31 PM	#53
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	A major bummer for Spacecom. Quote from the news link above "Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite: Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance." From what I understand, they are a small company that have been in talks about being bought by another company, depending on the success of this launch. Hard to talk when things explode around you. EDIT: They really do have rotten luck. This satelite, Amos-6 destroyed and the previous one Amos-5 stopped calling home last year. 1/3 of them out is not a shortcut to financial success. Another quote from the same link "Spacecom, the owner of the satellite onboard today's Falcon 9; are down 9% on their stock exchange today; and continuing to fall." Last edited by Von Due; 09-01-16 at 01:43 PM.

09-01-16, 03:30 PM	#54
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,992 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Lady Luck is certainly not smiling on them atm. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-01-16, 08:30 AM	#48
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	A Falcon 9 rocket conducting a static fire test at Cape Canaveral just opted to conduct a Static Rapid Disassembly Test instead.

09-01-16, 09:42 AM	#49
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I'm no rocket scientist, to make an understatement, but I read that it had a $200.000.000 payload on top when it blew up. Is that the norm? Sounds strange to have a payload on when you want to test fire the engines. At least they can conclude the rocket disassembles real quick which is good to know.

09-01-16, 10:23 AM	#50
mako88sb XO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 423 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SpaceX has confirmed that the explosion was not due to their Falcon 9 but from some sort of launch pad anomaly. Here's a closer shot:

09-01-16, 01:16 PM	#52
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Wow...yeah, that's going to leave a mark. At least it wasn't the fault of the vehicle, something must have ignited the propellant whilst it was being loaded onto the vehicle. The payload fairing actually survived the initial explosion but not the sudden onset of gravity caused by the rocket underneath it atomising.

09-01-16, 04:36 PM	#55
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	The quote earlier "Devastating blow for Spacecom, the owners of the AMOS-6 satellite: Elon Musk has stated that because the rocket didn't intentionally ignite for launch, the loss of payload is not covered by launch insurance." has now been retracted, it seems, but neither Musk nor SpaceX mention any of it in any tweet or other newspost I have seen. One can hope for Spacecom that the relevant insurance companies are playing ball.

09-01-16, 05:05 PM	#56
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 17,837 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Not trying to sound like an evil person Every setback is at most a positive thing it is mostly through these setback we learn a lot more than if everything was working great, but with hidden failure Markus

09-02-16, 07:00 AM	#58
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 180,992 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Footage of the incident: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

09-02-16, 12:47 PM	#60
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,660 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I am not going to touch the frothingly insane theories that pop up now concerning the incident but one thing really depresses: A search on Youtube for Facebook Satellite gave me 1120 hits (filtered for past 24 hours) and various media are hot onto it, parroting the same nonsense. Spacecom isn't even spelled the same way as Facebook, let alone pronounced the same way but still, good luck trying to tell the nutters it wasn't Facebook's sat.