The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread - Page 90

urfisch · 02-18-10, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkreaver1980

I preordered it. im connected 24/7 anyway, so im fully supporting the new DRM. Hope the pirates will have a hard time on it.

If Ubisoft enables some kind of chat (youre online anyway) than i will even buy 2 copies

lol, another one who believes the marketing department from ubisoft. go and buy it. but give us some screens and footage here, please.

Darkreaver1980 · 02-18-10, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by urfisch

lol, another one who believes the marketing department from ubisoft. go and buy it. but give us some screens and footage here, please.

Will do it. Or do you think that DRM will prevent it?

Only thing that can happend is that the server is overloaded in the first 2-3 days, after this it will run 24/7 without any problems

piri_reis · 02-18-10, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkreaver1980

Will do it. Or do you think that DRM will prevent it?

Only thing that can happend is that the server is overloaded in the first 2-3 days, after this it will run 24/7 without any problems

Ok ok, you obviously didn't read any answers posted to the thread you opened the other day... You'll learn with your own experiences, so go ahead try to grab a boiling pot.

Ishigami · 02-18-10, 06:34 AM

This will be interesting.
Afaik the only things that rarely get cracked are hardware protections like a USB dongle.
Looking forward to see UbiSoft failing because IMO they deserve it.

Nordmann · 02-18-10, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkreaver1980

I preordered it. im connected 24/7 anyway, so im fully supporting the new DRM. Hope the pirates will have a hard time on it.

If Ubisoft enables some kind of chat (youre online anyway) than i will even buy 2 copies

Definitely a Ubi employee.

Darkreaver1980 · 02-18-10, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nordmann

Definitely a Ubi employee.

youre definitely a EA employe, trying to bash ubi down

Nordmann · 02-18-10, 06:57 AM

Nice try mate, but I have as much dislike for EA as Ubi. In fact, I can't say I like any of the major publishers.

Brag · 02-18-10, 06:58 AM

A visit to Ubi's AC forum is an enlightning experience.

Ubisoft's DRM being tested... - Topic Powered by Social Strata

Onkel Neal · 02-18-10, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

The bold part says to me, Neal, that you do not have a "full" DRM/OSP copy of SH5.

You may be right, we'll see in about 5 days or so.

JScones · 02-18-10, 07:03 AM

Why five days?

Onkel Neal · 02-18-10, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Letum

From Neal's Link:

That's plain wrong.

Starforce admired in an interview at: http://reclaimyourgame.com/
that a starforce version was a likely cause of windows failing to
recognise optical drives.

The class action case over IDE drives been put into a slower mode
was settled out of court for an undisclosed sum. That would not have
happened with out some good evidence. Very slow speeds have
caused ophysical errors in some, but not all, CD drives.

The enforced reboots without chance to save your work is also
admitted by starforce (although not present in current SF versions).

Wonderful, you provide a link to a page that does not mention optical drives this interview. Can you fine tune your citation a little?

longam · 02-18-10, 07:15 AM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162040

Lanzfeld · 02-18-10, 07:29 AM

I believe that Steel Beasts Pro uses it and it is the hardest security for pirates to crack. Why wouldnt all games go to this solution?

Cost? I would pay $10 more for a dongle version.

Lanzfeld · 02-18-10, 07:33 AM

Nevermind. I figured it out.

The goal was always is to be able to charge a monthly fee in the future to allow access to the game and you cannot do that with a dongle.

To think they were claiming that this was to protect them from pirates when it was always $$$. Always is I guess.

Fluffysheap · 02-18-10, 07:34 AM

I have no problem with Internet authorization at startup - I have a couple dozen games on Steam, and Steam does that as a matter of course, not to mention that Windows itself does it. The problem is that games that have intrusive DRM always seem to come with a lot of attributes that are nothing but a big "screw you!" to the customers, and that's assuming the DRM doesn't itself break your computer which does sometimes happen (which I know as a former Starfarce victim).

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Originally Posted by jokerl90

Koroush Ghazi is the one person on the internet in who I trust absolutely. If he says it, I believe it. If he gives advise on something, I take it.

If this article is any kind of representative sample you should probably re-evaluate that policy. The article is well written but contains factual errors and some of the links for supporting evidence go to articles which don't provide the claimed evidence. I enjoyed when he cited the fact that the Wikipedia article for SecuROM has a "neutrality disputed" tag as evidence that somehow, this makes SecuROM completely OK. Then there was the time where made an irrelevant (and incorrect) claim that Daemon Tools is a rootkit... immediately followed by a page decrying the straw man argument. I mean, really.

There are also some conclusions which, while not really obviously flawed, I don't agree with. For instance, pretty much everything having to do with Steam. The obvious reason why Steam is popular and other DRM methods are not is that Steam makes the user's life better and other DRM methods make it worse. It has nothing to do with being a Valve fanboy as he surmises (actually I do not even like Counter-Strike).

By tying the game to the user instead of to the computer, the entire nonsense about install limits, activation and validation is rendered irrelevant. Additionally the game can be downloaded as many times as needed onto any computer, and accessed with your password, with no risk of losing or damaging the CD. And Steam can not sell out on launch day. "I am here to pick up my preorder" "Sorry, we have sold out" "What? I have a preorder" "There are no more copies in the store" "OK, I want my money back then" "Sorry, no refunds on preorders". (The manager did eventually give me the refund, at least). Certainly Valve could go bankrupt but I have lost or scratched a CD much more often than Valve has gone out of business, and even if they did, the games would mostly still be playable on the computer on which they are currently installed. I don't even mind occasionally paying more for a Steam game, just because it's worth extra to me to have the game on Steam instead of on a disc!

02-18-10, 06:57 AM	#1342
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Nice try mate, but I have as much dislike for EA as Ubi. In fact, I can't say I like any of the major publishers. __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

02-18-10, 06:58 AM	#1343
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Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	So Why Not Use A Dongle? I believe that Steel Beasts Pro uses it and it is the hardest security for pirates to crack. Why wouldnt all games go to this solution? Cost? I would pay $10 more for a dongle version.

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02-18-10, 06:34 AM	#1339
Ishigami Navy Dude Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 177 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	This will be interesting. Afaik the only things that rarely get cracked are hardware protections like a USB dongle. Looking forward to see UbiSoft failing because IMO they deserve it.

02-18-10, 07:03 AM	#1345
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Why five days?

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longam Admiral Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,014 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162040

02-18-10, 07:33 AM	#1349
Lanzfeld Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New Tripoli, PA Posts: 994 Downloads: 64 Uploads: 0	Nevermind. I figured it out. The goal was always is to be able to charge a monthly fee in the future to allow access to the game and you cannot do that with a dongle. To think they were claiming that this was to protect them from pirates when it was always $$$. Always is I guess.