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Old 01-27-13, 12:23 PM   #121
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Unfortunately it perverts the meaning of the book there as well. Did you know that the Old Man actually survived?
Really?
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Old 01-27-13, 12:26 PM   #122
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Well, to be honest I've never read them, as they've never been translated into English, but it's my understanding that he figures prominently in both sequels.

Also, it's been a while since I read the book, but I don't recall any other crew members getting killed, as with that group scene in the movie.
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Well, to be honest I've never read them, as they've never been translated into English, but it's my understanding that he figures prominently in both sequels.

Get Skybird to write an english synopsis of the changes. Get him to use his long windedness for good this one time.
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Get Skybird to write an english synopsis of the changes. Get him to use his long windedness for good this one time.



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Unfortunately it perverts the meaning of the book there as well. Did you know that the Old Man actually survived?
I did not mean to say that it was like the book which I have not read either.The book I have has photos taken by the journalist on that tour and others that he took of U-boat crews later.You can see at the end of the first section that real Old Man did survive along with the rest of the crew though.

I separate films from books myself to me they a two very different forms of entertainment I never expect a film to be just like the book because they simply can not be for simple reason that each reader sees in their mind what they read in a different way.In a film you are forced to see the film writers and directors view of the events in the film along with their creative license.

Serious readers will always find the book better than the film I know that I do of course as I said view a film based on a book without expecting to "see" the book I think is a good way to put it.
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I did not mean to say that it was like the book which I have not read either.The book I have has photos taken by the journalist on that tour and others that he took of U-boat crews later.You can see at the end of the first section that real Old Man did survive along with the rest of the crew though.
Okay, I was talking about Das Boot and you were talking about U-Boot Krieg (U-Boat War). Two different books. I have them both, and both are great in their own way. Yes indeed, not only did Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock survive the war, but he commanded a freighter and a nuclear reseach ship, and then served as technical advisor for the movie.



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I separate films from books myself to me they a two very different forms of entertainment I never expect a film to be just like the book because they simply can not be for simple reason that each reader sees in their mind what they read in a different way.In a film you are forced to see the film writers and directors view of the events in the film along with their creative license.
Oh, of course, and I agree. I was just pointing out the differences in this particular case.
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Unfortunately it perverts the meaning of the book there as well. Did you know that the Old Man actually survived?
The book's ending doesn't really offer any clue whether he survives or not.

"And there in the haze I see the Old Man, streaming with blood, his sweater
and shirt torn to shreds. His eyes, which were always narrowed, are wide,
wide open. At almost the same moment we sink to our knees, bracing our
arms on the splintered stones, and face each other like two Sumo wrestlers.
The Old Man opens his mouth as though to let loose a great shout. But all that
gushes from his lips is blood.
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Yes your correct I have U-Boat Kreig translated into English very good that you knew which book I was thinking of I had forgotten the name myself and that book is currently stored away on a distant book shelf my wife would throw it and many others out if I did not store many of them safely in the garage I have an inside the house book limit.Which is a good thing because I would then be reading through 4 or 5 different books at the same time.

You are correct about Heinrich of course.

Speaking of books I have waiting for me both volumes of "Silent Victory" once I finish up with "The Beauty and the Sorrow" a very good read about WWI.
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