T34 vs Tiger- Kursk 1943 coming soon! - Page 72

frinik · 05-17-10, 05:27 AM

Lc both Panzer Lehr and 1st SS Panzer division fielded Puma scout cars with the 50mm gun during Wacht am Rhein( Watch on the Rhine or the Battle of the Bulge).1st SS had 6 and PL also had a handful.I'll try to find the markings and turmnummer(numbers on the turret).

Dung_Beetle check the threads on thr forum for what Kursk and ZeeWolf's work on TvsT has to offer.I think the price is wotrth paying for all the goodies we are getting and going to get. Otherwise WWII-wise there's only Steel Fury with various modswhich I play and like .

Cheers

LcSummers · 05-17-10, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woofiedog

The web site may help you out with the unit markings.

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20Menu.htm

http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer...rigade%201.htm

101 units of the 234/2 produced were distributed as follows:
-Panzer Lehr Div. (1 Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 130): 25 units. Painted in dark yellow and without numerals or crosses.
- 2 PzDiv (1.Kompanie/PzAufkAbt 2): 25 units. Some of its vehicles seem painted dark yellow without any marking (not even license plates) but a small trident and the Aufklärungs insignia, both on the front of the hull, at the left. Others, like the well knwon 111 carried 3 tone camo, crosses and numerals.
- 1 SSPzDiv (SSPzAufkAbt 1): 16 units. painted in dark yellow with camo, probably 3 tone. They also carried crosses and numerals (3 digits)
- 20 PzDiv ( PzAufkAbt 20): 16 units. There is a photo of a Puma white washed, in Silesia.
- 7 PzDiv (1Kompanie/ PzAufkAbt 7): 6 units
- 13 PzDiv: not known.

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules...=147179&page=1

http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogs...spahwagen.html

Hi woofiedog,

really this is fantastic. You helped me very much. Again thank you. Now i have a lot of information about the Puma. These are very good sites for me. I really enjoy them.

ZW!

I thought about the future missions. How about (in Kursk, in France or Ardennes, you mentioned to do in the future something like this) to make a recon mission to find the best way for our tanks, to determine enemies strength etc. Its only a suggestion and its not important to implement recon vehicles and missions, it was only a thought.

Cheers and have a nice day

LC

LcSummers · 05-17-10, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frinik

Lc both Panzer Lehr and 1st SS Panzer division fielded Puma scout cars with the 50mm gun during Wacht am Rhein( Watch on the Rhine or the Battle of the Bulge).1st SS had 6 and PL also had a handful.I'll try to find the markings and turmnummer(numbers on the turret).

Dung_Beetle check the threads on thr forum for what Kursk and ZeeWolf's work on TvsT has to offer.I think the price is wotrth paying for all the goodies we are getting and going to get. Otherwise WWII-wise there's only Steel Fury with various modswhich I play and like .

Cheers

Frinic,

great information too. I am interested in Wacht am Rhein as i mentioned in earlier blogs i was in La Gleize, Coo, Trois Ponts. This would be cool if you were able to found some Turmnummern for these Panzerdivisionen. I followed the route wich Obersturmbannführer Peiper took and were he left behind his "whole Regiment " at the evening of Christmas day.

What i found were the KÖTIs Turmnummern, Commanders and their last place. ( abondoned, destroyed etc.)

If i am right Peiper rode on a Panther. Here, it is very hard to find about those Panthers. I know for sure that 3 of them had the Steel road wheels, #221 was abondoned in La Gleize.

About the Pumas its difficult ti find something.

Thanks a lot for your efforts

LC

morttheslayer · 05-17-10, 11:48 AM

Thanks Zee I am a very inneficient (Panzer) Helmsman now - thanks for the new promotion.

Having played the new Mission No3 (excellent concur with Frinic's comments) I play with headphones and so am now deaf!!!

also didn't get through the latest Kursk mission twice (nothing new here!) due to tracks shot away!
Small request for future missions

will it be possible to have a couple of hanomags trailling behind the spearhead that might repair/reload you in these circumstances?? If too difficult don't worry!

I also find during a lot of activity where FPS drop really low (say 5.2 for example) when I swap views from external (F6) or commander's external normal view and go to Commanders external or internal "BINOCULAR" view the FPS roll up by approx 4/5 FPS which is really helpful if the action is getting jerky. May help others get a better experience during these occasions.

Zee, Lc & Frinic - Thanks for letting me know what I'm missing with Beautiful Eastern European Ladies. Zee said even "Yeti lookers" start to get attractive when you reach 50; but I find now I'm over 60 it's anything with a pulse

BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs.

Lc - I too like the accounts of the Battle of the Bulge and the photo I have is Peiper and his driver Zwigert in what looks like a Kubelwagon - not a Panther

All the best - Mort

woofiedog · 05-17-10, 12:04 PM

Here is a site with Puma markings used during the Ardennes Offensive... Missing-Lynx.com. Then go to... Gallary/German/Sdfz234/2 Puma

It's only a modeling site... but it should be close to the time period markings.

Dung_Beetle · 05-17-10, 03:18 PM

[QUOTE=morttheslayer;1395415]BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs.

Hi all & thanks for the input.

3 cards with a 30" monitor is the only way to go.

Performance up, and temps down.

I tried to find TvsT. It is hard to find, and not cheap.

Does anybody know of a cheap place to buy TvsT? I found a cheap copy on eBay, but I don't like ebay

.

All other copies seem to be over $30.00.

ZeeWolf · 05-17-10, 06:35 PM

[QUOTE=Dung_Beetle;1395630]

Quote:

Originally Posted by morttheslayer

BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs.

Hi all & thanks for the input.

3 cards with a 30" monitor is the only way to go.

Performance up, and temps down.

I tried to find TvsT. It is hard to find, and not cheap.

Does anybody know of a cheap place to buy TvsT? I found a cheap copy on eBay, but I don't like ebay

.

All other copies seem to be over $30.00.

Welcome aboard DB

Try here:GoGamer.com

You may have the computer and graphics power to tell us what playing
TvsT is really like

I'm doing my best Dung Beetle Boy, with the help of my Kamerads who
like T34 vs Tiger as much as anyone. This project is really a team effort
though and once you get in to it you will see the potential here.

Cheers

ZeeWolf

Dung_Beetle · 05-17-10, 08:08 PM

Thanks for the link ZeeWolf,

I ordered TvsT.

It will be a little while before I can contribute to the project.

Is there anything; that I need to download in preperation before playing, patches etc?

I should be able to contribute to the project in the next month or two.

I'm really looking forward to this.

ZeeWolf · 05-17-10, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dung_Beetle

Thanks for the link ZeeWolf,

I ordered TvsT.

It will be a little while before I can contribute to the project.

Is there anything; that I need to download in preperation before playing, patches etc?

I should be able to contribute to the project in the next month or two.

I'm really looking forward to this.

That's great DB,
You''ll need the graphics files: Msvcr Files
and you could use a manual too: Manual

we'er sure you'll be happy here

ZeeWolf

frinik · 05-17-10, 10:49 PM

Hi Lc, I drafted a message for you yesterday with some info and then then internet crashed before I was able to send it and the internet was on and off for the remainder of the day( that's for living in the so-called Mecca of IT outsourcing.If only people knew!!!!).

I was able to find a pics of a PUma which was part of gruppe Knittel with marking 028 on the turret.Other sites said that most Puma had been repainted white for better camo and thus the numbers had been covered.Only a couple were left with their camo ; tiger stripes on sand-coloured background.Another site said that most of the Pumas used in the Ardennes were those that survived the Normandy disaster and consequently had the same numerals.There are good books with pics of the Puma(Osprey) but you can't access them online.

What's your interest in those small wheeled vehicles LC????

BTW there 's modern Puma which is beingn used by the Bundeswehr like there's a modern day Marder which is being retired .

KampfGruppe Peiper had Panthers G, Tiger IIs, Panzer IVs( presumably G H or J versions. I think Peiper himself drove around in a Kuebelwagen as mentioned by Morty. If he had to use a tank he would probably pick the Panther.

Cheers

Dung_Beetle · 05-17-10, 10:49 PM

I got the files downloaded & the manual. What do I do with the files?

This is great! I'm glad to be joining the community. I can smell the cordite already.

ZeeWolf · 05-17-10, 11:22 PM

LC, Morti and frinik,
I have been taking your advice - my report : It's working!

I've been relaxing just "Playing TVT" the new German mission4 and wow
I don't know how anybody going to survive this man!

There's nothing
like this one. You guys will probably have to tell me how to.

However you are given a choice: Engage the enemy onslaught or keep
moving to the designated position. Your Kamrades will stay and do their
duty.

Vorwärts!

ZW

frinik · 05-18-10, 12:05 AM

Zee; when we told you or rather advised you to take it eaZee and relax we didn't mean by that for you to take the time to devise hellish new missions in which all of us will get killed in the first five minutes!!!!!

We meant well deserved rest and no machiavellian plot for you to hatch.....

Looking forward to it. Will kiss my wife and kids and cat too goodbye!

Cheers

ZeeWolf · 05-18-10, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frinik

Zee; when we told you or rather advised you to take it eaZee and relax we didn't mean by that for you to take the time to devise hellish new missions in which all of us will get killed in the first five minutes!!!!!

We meant well deserved rest and no machiavellian plot for you to hatch.....

Looking forward to it. Will kiss my wife and kids and cat too goodbye!

Cheers

think positive frinik!
Just figured I'd do all that eaZee-ing after mission 4

What you will find frinik is almost complete safety until you decide on how
you'll engage. But, once your out there

Cheers

ZW

frinik · 05-18-10, 09:23 AM

Zee knowing I canm already imagine the shells impacting my Tiger´s armour shaking me loose from my Turmzielfernrohr 9 every time I try to spot and shoot a target!!!!

OK for mission 4.

BTW I find it a bit strange that somebody who can afford 3 Nvidia GTX 285 gcs and a 30" screen finds a $ 30.00 copy of TvsT too expensive.

.None of my business I know still a tad odd.....

Ok for mission Hell 4.

Cheers

05-17-10, 05:27 AM	#1066
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Kursk and WWII sims Lc both Panzer Lehr and 1st SS Panzer division fielded Puma scout cars with the 50mm gun during Wacht am Rhein( Watch on the Rhine or the Battle of the Bulge).1st SS had 6 and PL also had a handful.I'll try to find the markings and turmnummer(numbers on the turret). Dung_Beetle check the threads on thr forum for what Kursk and ZeeWolf's work on TvsT has to offer.I think the price is wotrth paying for all the goodies we are getting and going to get. Otherwise WWII-wise there's only Steel Fury with various modswhich I play and like . Cheers

05-17-10, 11:48 AM	#1069
morttheslayer Soundman Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: SW England UK Posts: 146 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I am a Panzer Helmsman Thanks Zee I am a very inneficient (Panzer) Helmsman now - thanks for the new promotion. Having played the new Mission No3 (excellent concur with Frinic's comments) I play with headphones and so am now deaf!!! also didn't get through the latest Kursk mission twice (nothing new here!) due to tracks shot away! Small request for future missions will it be possible to have a couple of hanomags trailling behind the spearhead that might repair/reload you in these circumstances?? If too difficult don't worry! I also find during a lot of activity where FPS drop really low (say 5.2 for example) when I swap views from external (F6) or commander's external normal view and go to Commanders external or internal "BINOCULAR" view the FPS roll up by approx 4/5 FPS which is really helpful if the action is getting jerky. May help others get a better experience during these occasions. Zee, Lc & Frinic - Thanks for letting me know what I'm missing with Beautiful Eastern European Ladies. Zee said even "Yeti lookers" start to get attractive when you reach 50; but I find now I'm over 60 it's anything with a pulse BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs. Lc - I too like the accounts of the Battle of the Bulge and the photo I have is Peiper and his driver Zwigert in what looks like a Kubelwagon - not a Panther All the best - Mort

05-17-10, 12:04 PM	#1070
woofiedog Engineer Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: New England Posts: 216 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Here is a site with Puma markings used during the Ardennes Offensive... Missing-Lynx.com. Then go to... Gallary/German/Sdfz234/2 Puma It's only a modeling site... but it should be close to the time period markings. __________________

05-17-10, 03:18 PM	#1071
Dung_Beetle Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=morttheslayer;1395415]BTW I think Dung Beetle should sell one of his Graphics cards and buy both TvsT and Steel Fury. I quite like SF, true it's not a heavyweight but its a well done, polished and rounded game with not many bugs. Hi all & thanks for the input. 3 cards with a 30" monitor is the only way to go. Performance up, and temps down. I tried to find TvsT. It is hard to find, and not cheap. Does anybody know of a cheap place to buy TvsT? I found a cheap copy on eBay, but I don't like ebay. All other copies seem to be over $30.00.

05-17-10, 08:08 PM	#1073
Dung_Beetle Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	TvsT Ordered Thanks for the link ZeeWolf, I ordered TvsT. It will be a little while before I can contribute to the project. Is there anything; that I need to download in preperation before playing, patches etc? I should be able to contribute to the project in the next month or two. I'm really looking forward to this.

05-17-10, 10:49 PM	#1075
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Puma Hi Lc, I drafted a message for you yesterday with some info and then then internet crashed before I was able to send it and the internet was on and off for the remainder of the day( that's for living in the so-called Mecca of IT outsourcing.If only people knew!!!!). I was able to find a pics of a PUma which was part of gruppe Knittel with marking 028 on the turret.Other sites said that most Puma had been repainted white for better camo and thus the numbers had been covered.Only a couple were left with their camo ; tiger stripes on sand-coloured background.Another site said that most of the Pumas used in the Ardennes were those that survived the Normandy disaster and consequently had the same numerals.There are good books with pics of the Puma(Osprey) but you can't access them online. What's your interest in those small wheeled vehicles LC???? BTW there 's modern Puma which is beingn used by the Bundeswehr like there's a modern day Marder which is being retired . KampfGruppe Peiper had Panthers G, Tiger IIs, Panzer IVs( presumably G H or J versions. I think Peiper himself drove around in a Kuebelwagen as mentioned by Morty. If he had to use a tank he would probably pick the Panther. Cheers

05-17-10, 10:49 PM	#1076
Dung_Beetle Seaman Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 40 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thanks For The Welcome I got the files downloaded & the manual. What do I do with the files? This is great! I'm glad to be joining the community. I can smell the cordite already.

05-17-10, 11:22 PM	#1077
ZeeWolf Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Great NorthWest Posts: 1,724 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 1	German Mission 4 LC, Morti and frinik, I have been taking your advice - my report : It's working! I've been relaxing just "Playing TVT" the new German mission4 and wow I don't know how anybody going to survive this man! There's nothing like this one. You guys will probably have to tell me how to. However you are given a choice: Engage the enemy onslaught or keep moving to the designated position. Your Kamrades will stay and do their duty. Vorwärts! ZW

05-18-10, 12:05 AM	#1078
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Zeesus What Have you done? Zee; when we told you or rather advised you to take it eaZee and relax we didn't mean by that for you to take the time to devise hellish new missions in which all of us will get killed in the first five minutes!!!!! We meant well deserved rest and no machiavellian plot for you to hatch..... Looking forward to it. Will kiss my wife and kids and cat too goodbye! Cheers

05-18-10, 09:23 AM	#1080
frinik Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 897 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Mission 4 Zee knowing I canm already imagine the shells impacting my Tiger´s armour shaking me loose from my Turmzielfernrohr 9 every time I try to spot and shoot a target!!!! OK for mission 4. BTW I find it a bit strange that somebody who can afford 3 Nvidia GTX 285 gcs and a 30" screen finds a $ 30.00 copy of TvsT too expensive..None of my business I know still a tad odd..... Ok for mission Hell 4. Cheers Last edited by frinik; 05-18-10 at 09:33 AM.