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10-19-09, 11:29 PM | #91 | |
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These missions are being touted as 1.4 and 1.5 compatable. If they are not, then that peice of misleading text should be removed. I was testing and offering to host these under that assumption, but if half are going to crash then it's been a waste of time. Don't get me wrong, the ones that worked were great to play, even having to engage a DD on the surface in an S-boat gun dual, but from the standpoint of trying to get more files to host to increase the popularity and recognition of the new hosting site..a waste..since I can't post something that's going to desktop people half the time. While your above post doesn't really anger me I am dissapointed. I can't even play TMO if I wanted too. I can't figure out how to install it. PM's go unswered for days, and what threads I've amde or posted in or looked up seem to direct me to a different answer ever time, sometimes giving me a list of files some of which are not available or conflict one another saying I need the hot fix or service pack and the next I don't. Now there's this beta out too? I can't even get someone to give me a strait answer on how the frack to install it and what files are needed and I tried to register on the beta forum for TMO and my hotmail and gmail aren't allowed *sigh* not that it would do me any good. Sounds like it's as hard to play as GWX was for SH3 even on easy and I never got a succesfull attack on that mod..too hard and killed my interest to play.
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10-19-09, 11:37 PM | #92 | |
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the problem is a misscommunication about some of these missions, the majority work with stock but not all of them will. the missions work as they are as long as you use RSRDC so that the non stock ships are present in the game or you get the CTD. i missunderstood thinking that all of these missions are going to work in the stock game, but it looks like i need to replace all the non stock ships in some of them and others may just have to be removed as not compatable with stock. EDIT: sending you a PM with a link to my file so you can look it over Last edited by Webster; 10-20-09 at 12:16 AM. |
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10-19-09, 11:39 PM | #93 |
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Ships in TMO + RSRDC
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10-19-09, 11:40 PM | #94 |
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Ships in FOTRS
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10-19-09, 11:58 PM | #95 | |
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this is all my fault, and yes changes will need to be made so please dont expect cdrsubron7 to fix a problem that i created. i was trying to offer everyone a large group of missions on one easy mod so blame me if something isnt working right. cdrsubron7 made these missions for his own use and I was the one who wanted to put them all together. he made them for his game using his favorite mods the way he likes to play the game and he went out of his way to make some of these missions work for the stock game when an issue came up with the ones i used for my GFO mod. the rest of these missions are something that still need to be checked and i would apreciate it if you continue checking them so i can remove those that dont work for the stock game. when this is done i can edit the read me and reupload the amended files to remove those that dont work for the stock game. |
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10-20-09, 12:23 AM | #96 | |
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Ok, I'll keep testing. Also, I guess, just incase it was/will be mis interperated, I'm not accusing anyone of being intentionaly misleading..just to get that outa the way..
at any rate, those that do not work for stock (since there's clearly going to be alot of them) are we going to try and fix them too? also, to requote a post I made above, which crdsubron7 thought he was answering: Quote:
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10-20-09, 01:45 AM | #97 | |
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Here is an actual example: [Group 3.Unit 3] Name=Ralph Class=DDAkizuki Type=4 Origin=Japan The Subutu Passage is done, took about 10 minutes or less to do, I am going to rename it to include info for Stock version but credit to cdrsubron7 or Tambor198 whichever he prefers for writing and just that they have been converted to work with stock. Here is the Sibutu Passage_Stock mission for whoever wants to keep the ones that are converted. I don't use the word 'fixed' because they were not broken. http://www.filefront.com/14757901/Si...ssage_Stock.7z And here is the Approaches to Singapore http://www.filefront.com/14758107/Ap...apore_stock.7z Peabody
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10-20-09, 09:13 AM | #98 | |
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you will see every mission has the same basic info to construct and run the missions. (the .tsr file is for the mission breifing info) this is where you can manually make your changes for missions that cant open with the mission editor for whatever reason. the other files peabody mentioned are where you go to select or confirm what ships are to be used and the needed info to go with them. these files are found inside the games directory files and they can also be opened and read using windows notepad but DO NOT EDIT the game files or you can cause many problems. the safest way is to make copies of them to use so if you make a mistake and change one it doesnt effect the game. if you are going to make the missions FOTRS ready then they may already work since it was based on TMO to start with. it looks to me that most of the issues are related to RSRDC ships so check with lurker but i think the TMO version of RSRDC "might" work with FOTRS but only he knows for sure. |
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10-20-09, 11:02 AM | #99 |
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this is the list of missions that are only going to work with the TMO + RSRDC mod installed and will probably work fine with only the RSRDC mod by itself. Missions for TMO+RSRDC mods: SM101 Approaches To Singapore (see post #97 for a stock version of this mission) SM105 Sibutu Passage (see post #97 for a stock version of this mission) SM108 Ambon Supplies SM110 Crossroads SM112 Southbound Convoys SM122 Battle of Surigao Strait SM123 Returning Home SM126 Yellow Sea SM129 Bohol Sea Encounter SM133 Davao Gulf Recon SM134 Northern Luzon Intercept |
10-20-09, 02:54 PM | #100 | |
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if it wont open in mission editor it means theres a ship there thats not in your game (not in stock) so even if the mission works it will CTD at the point where that non stock ship enters the game so it will CTD at some point on you in the mission. for the editor to open the mission it must "see" all of the ships so this is an easy tip off that a mission isnt compatable with your game the way it is. SM110 Crossroads is on my TMO+RSRDC missions list and i havent decided weather to split the list into stock missions and TMO+RSRDC missions or to try and convert the TMO missions to be stock versions. it depends a lot on if peabody is even willing to do anything with them because he is very busy, he understands best how to edit them properly. if he doesnt have the time i may try it but every time i try i havent done it correctly yet. |
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10-20-09, 05:06 PM | #101 | |
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10-20-09, 07:14 PM | #102 |
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There's way more than 9, there's 21.
However, some are random group errors. I'm not sure what the one is because I can't tell what else the random group may have (atleast not in the editor) but one is the Iowa and yamato. Some do not crash the editor untill you zoom and so evidently when I played them I never encountered the rquired vessel. Atleast 4 or 5 seem to have these akikase DD's as their only error, especially after #124 SM103 SM104 SM108 SM109 SM110 SM111 SM112 SM113 SM115 SM118 SM122 Sm123 SM124 (one ship) SM125 (Akikasie again) SM126 doesn't crash but gives random group error SM127 sm129 appears to be 1.4 (the yamato and iowa issue) SM130 SM131 sm133 SM134
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10-20-09, 08:01 PM | #103 | |
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you got me really looking closer and i do see a ship here or there thats out of place for stock. it kinda looks like every mission has at least one, and i guess that thats not that surprising since tambor198 (a.k.a. cdrsubron7) made them for TMO+RSRDC users. i see an akikaze, momi, or akatsuki here or there but i never noticed having one less ship that failed to appear in the mission, i was mainly concerned with making sure the missions worked and nobody reported any problems untill you did. i could have corrected this a while back if i had known about it. i can see i need to review and cleanup those errors because that one extra DD being there helps make the mission better and that extra DD could be the one thats gets you its also funny how some non stock ships being in the mission can cause a ctd and yet others just dont show up and let the mission work fine i guess it must depend on weather they are spawned as part of another group of ships or not. |
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10-20-09, 08:10 PM | #104 |
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what do you mean by these statements?
SM126 doesn't crash but gives random group error sm129 appears to be 1.4 (the yamato and iowa issue) please give more details about what you found and whats not working because both of these crash in mission editor |
10-20-09, 08:33 PM | #105 |
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it means when I load it, there's a background popup that shows up (behind the editor in my case, check your task bar) and says random group error. (edit-after rechecking, it's that damn akikaze again)
SM129 error is explained here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...=1#post1063616 It has to do with a type change, from 1.4 (battleship) to superbattleship in 1.5 I've not tried this fix to see if it works in practice. Also, another question: Are there general merchants..meaning, merchants that can be jap but are not in the jap roster, IE generics used by all sides? Or are they required to be in the roster of the matching country to be used for that country?
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